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[Destructicus]

Flaming oblivion, on 17 January 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

8 points 26 games where i qualified got at least a kill and a assist but in 18 games the team lost.
This is why people get so frustrated with you PGI. You rub how bad the MM is in our faces with challenges like this.

Yes yes a few of the vocal minority can do it by dropping in CW/ group queue with 8-12 mans . And a few can do it in solo no doubt sync dropping, Fact is the majority cant and you shouldn't make something only accessible to the minority which is what you have done with this challenge.

You have pulled in new players for this challenge no doubt , And I can tell you the pug queue where they are playing is nothing short of a horror show , When they find out all that pain and frustration was for a mech most of them never stood a chance of getting ? Do you think they will feel it was fare? Do you think they will be happy with the matchmaker?

Or do you think their going to be pretty upset and infuriated with the awful situation they endured for nothing?

Is this your plan to retain new players?

Premium time doesn't cut it , Everything has to be attainable with in reason for all or don't bother, The mech simply isn't a option for most.

Your burning your bridges with pugs and new players yet again.

You need both and you better learn fast or the minority are going to have to start writing bigger and bigger cheques to keep this project alive.

It must be convienent to cite the silent majority as people who agree with you and experience the same things you experience.
You have habit of doing that in futile attempts to make your point.

[That Dawg]

did I mention, while enduring this horrible gaming weekend....I'm liking my 3 days of premium?

[Insects]

I just took the 3 days premium as a nice little gift and will not be making any attempt at the challenge.
Even with a kill every match it would take 60 matches with 50/50 matchmaker influencing the outcome.

[Uncle Totty]

Am I the only one to see the name "Flaming oblivion" as some sort of hint to what he tries to do?

[DelphiAuriga]

When do we get the Mech??

Sorry, but im not really up read 11 Pages of thread, so if u can quote me to answer

[DelphiAuriga]

DelphiAuriga, on 17 January 2015 - 08:49 PM, said:

When do we get the Mech??

Sorry, but im not really up read 11 Pages of thread, so if u can quote me to answer

Forget it, Took like 30 minutes instead of the 15 I thought it would, but now i have my new CTF-3D (C)

[LameoveR]

That Dawg, on 17 January 2015 - 08:04 PM, said:

did I mention, while enduring this horrible gaming weekend....I'm liking my 3 days of premium?

Just a 3 points, really?
It's really lame.

[Kaeb Odellas]

I either get 3 kills and lose the round, or I win and get nothing.

[Appogee]

25 matches, only 10 wins, 6 qualifying points.

Got kills in almost all the matches, but the matchmaker expects me to carry teams that are two thirds inexperienced players.

I'm a committed and frequent player, but 150 matches and 17 hours is just too much.

I cannot carry any harder.

[ElricVonRabenfels]

Nay, this is not going to happen, no matter how well I play. For one point, there are several matches where I get nothing.

I don't feel like grinding any longer. 30 points is just too much.
**** this challenge. I have a life, and other, more enjoyable things to do than grind for one mechbay and mech.

Edited by ElricVonRabenfels, 17 January 2015 - 11:20 PM.

[Motörhead]

no time this week end to grind, but still 3 days of premium, can't complain about free stuff will get it on monday so I can actually make use of it

Edited by fx8320, 17 January 2015 - 11:18 PM.

[IraqiWalker]

Flaming oblivion, on 17 January 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

8 points 26 games where i qualified got at least a kill and a assist but in 18 games the team lost.
This is why people get so frustrated with you PGI. You rub how bad the MM is in our faces with challenges like this.

Yes yes a few of the vocal minority can do it by dropping in CW/ group queue with 8-12 mans . And a few can do it in solo no doubt sync dropping, Fact is the majority cant and you shouldn't make something only accessible to the minority which is what you have done with this challenge.

You have pulled in new players for this challenge no doubt , And I can tell you the pug queue where they are playing is nothing short of a horror show , When they find out all that pain and frustration was for a mech most of them never stood a chance of getting ? Do you think they will feel it was fare? Do you think they will be happy with the matchmaker?

Or do you think their going to be pretty upset and infuriated with the awful situation they endured for nothing?

Is this your plan to retain new players?

Premium time doesn't cut it , Everything has to be attainable with in reason for all or don't bother, The mech simply isn't a option for most.

Your burning your bridges with pugs and new players yet again.

You need both and you better learn fast or the minority are going to have to start writing bigger and bigger cheques to keep this project alive.

The hell are you talking about? I'm doing it solo, no sync drops or anything, and my rate has been around 1 qualifier for every 3.25 non qualifiers. Solos are doing fine with this challenge, sure, a lot of people are absolutely god-stunningly stupid right now, but how is that PGI's fault? It's the players' fault for being so idiotic to the point where I saw an assault lance chase after a lone cicada X-5, ignoring the broadside from the enemy team, to try and get the kill, only to lose the match.

People can claim that PGI should've worked the criteria better, but honestly, how much more team-work encouraging can it be? They already have the "You HAVE to win" requirement in there. You'd think people would be a bit more careful, since there are 12 targets to pick from, but no. Idiots will still be idiots, and I'm honestly reaching the point where I'm blaming the player population for for almost as many things as PGI.

[Appogee]

I appreciated the 3 days premium time.

I'm disappointed to not be able to play the 150 matches I'd need to get the Mech, based on present PUG queue win/loss ratio.

Congrats and well done to those whose 12-man teams, drop windows and Elo ratings make this challenge achievable. Nothing but goodwill from me for those who get all the way to 30 points.

Those who say it's easy to get the 30 points are possibly in large collaborative teams, lower Elo ratings or off-peak drop windows. That is your good fortune and by all means you should enjoy it.

Once again, thanks PGI for the Premium Time and well done to those who have a fighting chance of achieving the higher reward.

Edited by Appogee, 18 January 2015 - 12:29 AM.

[Juantamad]

Got 16 points in 39 matches already but today and tomorrow I'll be working so I guess the chances of completing the event is slim sigh....

Edited by Juantamad, 18 January 2015 - 12:37 AM.

[Asmosis]

hm, need about 60-70 matches to do this, 4-5 matches per hour ....

Its not that I have a problem with the required score, but getting that done in 2 days is pretty extreme. an event that needs 10-15 solid hours should probably be spread over a full week instead.

*edit*

apparently its close to 30 hours based on the ppl who claim its "easy". honestly 15 hours each day on a weekend? that's insane. That's almost a full working week. how many mechs could I buy with a weeks wages instead?

Edited by Asmosis, 18 January 2015 - 12:37 AM.

[martian]

Flaming oblivion, on 17 January 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

Yes yes a few of the vocal minority can do it by dropping in CW/ group queue with 8-12 mans . And a few can do it in solo no doubt sync dropping, Fact is the majority cant and you shouldn't make something only accessible to the minority which is what you have done with this challenge.

I'd like to tell you that I have completed the challenge successfully, using only the solo PUG queue. No group queue, no sync dropping - just as one solo player.

If you try harder, you may win your Cataphract.

Flaming oblivion, on 17 January 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

And I can tell you the pug queue where they are playing is nothing short of a horror show ,

Actually, I have been pleasantly surprised that the number of LRM-boats is much lower than expected. If you play smart and show some effort to help your team to win a game, then it's not too difficult to get a qualifying game.

Flaming oblivion, on 17 January 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

You have pulled in new players for this challenge no doubt ,
When they find out all that pain and frustration was for a mech most of them never stood a chance of getting ? Do you think they will feel it was fare? Do you think they will be happy with the matchmaker?

Your burning your bridges with pugs and new players yet again.

Or do you think their going to be pretty upset and infuriated with the awful situation they endured for nothing?

Is this your plan to retain new players?

When you say "no doubt" and "your plan to retain new players", etc. do you have any proof that it was PGI's plan? Could you post an official quote saying that? I'd like to read it on my own.

Because otherwise I must take it as your personal unbased assumption.

Flaming oblivion, on 17 January 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

Premium time doesn't cut it , Everything has to be attainable with in reason for all or don't bother, The mech simply isn't a option for most.

1) I will tell you a secret: Thanks that Premium time you can earn enough C-Bills to buy that Cataphract. Naturally, it won't be the Champion Cataphract, but only the standard CTF-3D Cataphract, but for all practical purposes both 'Mechs are identical.
Even if you don't win that Cataphract, you are not losing C-Bills - actually, you are making more and more C-Bills in every game thanks that Premium Time.

2) This is Challenge: C-H-A-L-L-E-N-G-E. Not Giving Out.

The entire point of a challenge is to be - you know - challenging.

Once I read in the newspaper that children in some Western nations are so accustomed to get medals just for "taking a part" in various competitions that they often get very angry and upset if they somehow end playing a game where rewards and prizes are based on actual skill and effort.

Even you can make it:


See you on the battlefield:

[Alzhiemer]

I would love to be able to win a cataphract but I cant get past the endless patch loop

[Errant Variable]

Challenging is one thing, but these rewards bring out some awful players. The last match I was in had 5 players on my team under 100 damage, and almost nobody else over 200. This isn't too far off for the night - usually half the team hides in hopes of picking up easy kills for a point, then get wrecked by the opposing deathblob after they take out the active half of the team.

6 bad + 6 great =/= 12 good

GL to anyone who continues to care enough to log in for the theoretical free mech. I don't have the 20 hours of life to dedicate to it, at current w/l rates.

[Bows3r]

Finished mine with 38 hours to spare, only because I slacked on day 1. Took me 40 extra matches, but honestly too many pug scrublords in the Group queue. Solo queue has been rosy for me! Probably because i'm at the top of the Elo bracket.

[Zolaz]

63 matches to finish off the "challenge".

The greatest challenge was dealing with my team mates when lights would run into you. The light would come in belly to belly and your team shoots your mech all to hell because they were "aiming" at a light. I wish there were greater penalties for damaging your team mates. Enough of a penalty that it hurts the pocket book. A team kill should keep you from getting positive c-bills from a match.

The 5 or 6 match losing streaks where the MM would put me into horrible teams was the next greatest issue. My non qualifying matches all seemed to come in clumps or 4 to 6 losses i a row. I can carry and I am good. I am not going to be able to carry the 3 or 4 mechs that run into direwolves and kill zones one at a time. Everything was not awesome, everything was not cool when I was part of their team. A special shout out to all the guys, who told me things that cant be printed on the Forums, when I asked you to group up and form kill pockets instead of playing peek a boo or Leroying into the enemies kill zone.

In a team game your biggest help and the greatest hindrance is your team. Team work is OP. However, the Match Maker does not give you a good team if you are good player. It tries and averages your ELO with a bunch of pilots who seem to have problems. Problems like moving and shooting, shooting at things shooting them, building mechs, not over heating, and being a positive factor for the team. These guys seem to get task saturated when something starts shooting at them. I would prefer it if you kept the kiddies in the shallow end of the pool.

Thanks for the Premium Time, thanks for the mech bay, thanks for the mech. I did gain like 12 million c-bills during those 63 matches. Premium time and Hero/Founder mechs for the win while grinding away. Most of my qualifying matches were done in a Yen-Lo-Wang and my Founders Atlas. The AC 20 goes a long way to securing a kill.