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[Nimbus Captain Brannigan]

Ok so currently I'm using an old computer which was HP with some upgrades

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 at 2.66GHz
1333 x2 2GB DDR2 and 1066 2x 1GB DDR2 total of 6GB ram
GeForce GTX 550 Ti which is 1GB 900MHz
450W Corsair power supply
1TB Hard drive
Win 7 64bit
and other non essencials. Also it was stock cooling for cpu and what not. It ran me around 25-35 FPS with non-max grafics for MWO. Yes playable althrough when hell breaks loose sometimes it dips in frames. Another thing to note is I had my LCD monitor from way back in 2002 which was 19inch, it was replaced with new 27 intch Asus monitor.



New rig:
i5 4690 Quad core 3.5GHz with Noctua NH-D14 cooling
2x 4GB DDR3 at 1866
Gigabyte GTX 970 which is 4GB at 1178MHz
650W power supply
256 GB SSD
1TB HDD
WIN 7 64 bit.
this is all on Asus Maximus VI Hero motherboard.
So far, all I'm waiting for is my CPU to arrive to finish the build. Then apply thermal compound put in RAM, put on cooling heatsink, and stick in graphics card.

What do you think, will it be a big improvement over what I have now?

[Kilo 40]

It will make a huge difference.

[Greenjulius]

The processor improvement will dramatically improve average framerate, while the videocard will definitely let you play on all Ultra.

[JohnnyWayne]

MWO is pretty CPU dependent and as far as I am aware of the upgrade to an I7 is worth it for MWO. It isn't for most other games.

Moreover, 650 W? 500-550 is enough, rather buy quality instead of a no name power supply. I recommend Enermax or Be Quiet!.

[Kilo 40]

JohnnyWayne, on 16 January 2015 - 11:20 PM, said:

MWO is pretty CPU dependent and as far as I am aware of the upgrade to an I7 is worth it for MWO. It isn't for most other games.

Moreover, 650 W? 500-550 is enough, rather buy quality instead of a no name power supply. I recommend Enermax or Be Quiet!.

His video card requires 550w. may as well have some head room.

and right now, EVGAs PS prices plus build quality are hard to beat

[Flapdrol]

JohnnyWayne, on 16 January 2015 - 11:20 PM, said:

MWO is pretty CPU dependent and as far as I am aware of the upgrade to an I7 is worth it for MWO. It isn't for most other games.

Moreover, 650 W? 500-550 is enough, rather buy quality instead of a no name power supply. I recommend Enermax or Be Quiet!.

The game is very cpu demanding, but not that well multithreaded, so there's very little added value in getting an i7.

Anyway, system is an obvious improvement, expect at least twice the fps, probably more.

[MavRCK]

The faster you can overclock that i5 the better the game will run.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Kilo 40, on 16 January 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

His video card requires 550w. may as well have some head room.

and right now, EVGAs PS prices plus build quality are hard to beat

His GPU does not and will not use 550W.... ever.

That said, it would be worth knowing what PSU he is getting, brand makes all the difference.

Edited by DV McKenna, 17 January 2015 - 12:47 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

MavRCK, on 17 January 2015 - 12:03 AM, said:

The faster you can overclock that i5 the better the game will run.

If it's the K version this is absolutely true.

[Greenjulius]

DV McKenna, on 17 January 2015 - 12:51 AM, said:

If it's the K version this is absolutely true.

Yeah, the little bit extra for the K with the flexible multiplier is definitely worth it. It's much easier to overclock.

[Kilo 40]

DV McKenna, on 17 January 2015 - 12:45 AM, said:

His GPU does not and will not use 550W.... ever.

Tell that to Gigabyte

Power requirement: 550W (with one 6-pin and one 8-pin external power connectors)

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Kilo 40, on 17 January 2015 - 12:56 AM, said:

Tell that to Gigabyte

Power requirement: 550W (with one 6-pin and one 8-pin external power connectors)

Sigh, that's a recommended wattage for the whole system to run stable at full load.

At 100% load the power draw of a 970 is in the 300W region.
Only dual chip cards will draw that high/ some AMD cards (500W+)

http://www.bit-tech....x-970-review/11

Maxwell GPU's are incredibly power efficient

Edited by DV McKenna, 17 January 2015 - 01:04 AM.

[Kilo 40]

DV McKenna, on 17 January 2015 - 01:00 AM, said:

Sigh, that's a recommended wattage for the whole system to run stable at full load.

ok. and?

I didn't say the GPU will use 550w. It's saying the system should have at least a 550w PSU.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Kilo 40, on 16 January 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

His video card requires 550w.

If that isn't what you meant, then your statement is misleading.

[Kilo 40]

DV McKenna, on 17 January 2015 - 01:15 AM, said:

If that isn't what you meant, then your statement is misleading.

I assumed I didn't need to spell out what "system" requirements means. to run the GTX 970 4gb, the "system" requires a 550w PSU.

But next time someone asks what is the minimum system requirements for MWO, and I say 4gb ram, I will then clarify that MWO won't use that entire amount of ram and that windows and other software will use some of it too, even though it says it requires 4gb.

you know, so I'm not misleading.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Kilo 40, on 17 January 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

I assumed I didn't need to spell out what "system" requirements means. to run the GTX 970 4gb, the "system" requires a 550w PSU.

But next time someone asks what is the minimum system requirements for MWO, and I say 4gb ram, I will then clarify that MWO won't use that entire amount of ram and that windows and other software will use some of it too, even though it says it requires 4gb.

you know, so I'm not misleading.

You can be salty all you like, but if someone who doesn't know much about computers ( and perhaps the OP doesn't) making a statement that his VIDEO CARD requires 550W he may misinterpret.

[Kilo 40]

DV McKenna, on 17 January 2015 - 01:51 AM, said:

You can be salty all you like

LOL! It never fails. you ALWAYS fall back on that.

Like I've told you before. That is not a magic chant that makes you automatically correct whenever you say it.

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, but if someone who doesn't know much about computers ( and perhaps the OP doesn't) making a statement that his VIDEO CARD requires 550W he may misinterpret.

The system requirements for that VIDEO CARD is a 550W PSU, as was shown in the link I provided. so yes his VIDEO CARD requires a 550W PSU in his system even if the VIDEO CARD doesn't consume all 550W.


Now, instead of coming back and saying "Ok. my mistake. I now see what you are saying. I just jumped the gun on your first comment. sorry.", like an adult. you should totally come back and call me salty, then repeat exactly what you've said before just with a different wording.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Kilo 40, on 17 January 2015 - 02:07 AM, said:

LOL! It never fails. you ALWAYS fall back on that.

Like I've told you before. That is not a magic chant that makes you automatically correct whenever you say it.



The system requirements for that VIDEO CARD is a 550W PSU, as was shown in the link I provided. so yes his VIDEO CARD requires a 550W PSU in his system even if the VIDEO CARD doesn't consume all 550W.


Now, instead of coming back and saying "Ok. my mistake. I now see what you are saying. I just jumped the gun on your first comment. sorry.", like an adult. you should totally come back and call me salty, then repeat exactly what you've said before just with a different wording.

And as i have said before, i have never said salty is an auto i win button.

Perhaps instead of in your first post saying his video card requires 550W, you should have said that his system would require 550W.
Then that would be correct. (well in terms of the statement but the system could run off 500W if there was never going to be any overclocking involved)

Edited by DV McKenna, 17 January 2015 - 02:20 AM.

[Kilo 40]

DV McKenna, on 17 January 2015 - 02:17 AM, said:

And as i have said before, i have never said salty is an auto i win button.

which explains why you said it in a conversation about power supplies and GPUs.

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Perhaps instead of in your first post saying his video card requires 550W, you should have said that his system would require 550W.
Then that would be correct.

Perhaps instead of carrying on after I posted the link to the system requirements for the GPU, you just said "Ok. i see what you meant." Then we wouldn't have wasted the OPs thread on you being as pedantic as you possibly can about a point that really doesn't matter.

He needs a 550W PSU or better. THAT is correct.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Kilo 40, on 17 January 2015 - 02:27 AM, said:

which explains why you said it in a conversation about power supplies and GPUs.



Perhaps instead of carrying on after I posted the link to the system requirements for the GPU, you just said "Ok. i see what you meant." Then we wouldn't have wasted the OPs thread on you being as pedantic as you possibly can about a point that really doesn't matter.

He needs a 550W PSU or better. THAT is correct.

I call you salty because you go into auto defensive mode anytime someone points out a flaw in your post.

It's not on the page you linked, but on the specs tab if the OP or anyone delves into it to find it ( not your fault neweggs).
It's very rare anyone takes any notice at all of the GPU makers system requirements it's better to run off load measurements and work from there.

My point was your statement about the video card needing 550W was incorrect, the system may do having dealt with many people in the hardware forum believe me you have to explain things perfectly because there are a great many out there that simply are not confident or will take peoples words at 100% value weather they are right or wrong .
But as i say it would fly with a 500W with no overclocking but the 50W extra is a better safe than sorry.

Edited by DV McKenna, 17 January 2015 - 02:34 AM.