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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Endless Ike, on 28 June 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

It's worth noting that I didn't identify anyone by name, but you apparently self-identified as a wanna-be munchkin. Just something to think about.

514yer, on 28 June 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

worth reading my posts before you flame me buddy

514yer, on 28 June 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Yeah great idea, then the clans invade and FAIL
make that ... fail idea

Look at my house... if I wanted an easy fight of it would I be picking FRR?

514yer, on 28 June 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

As I said ON the FRR forum section, I DONT want to see it where the Clans invade and we ARE able to kick their ***** and they DONT drop the FRR back to 8 worlds. OR I want those of us who are FRR to EARN the right to hold them back ON OUR OWN and NOT because they have to nerf the clans.

So... what part of that screams "I WANT TO BE GOD LIKE MUNCHKIN"?
Read the thread next time before you try to troll and look foolish

Edited by 514yer, 28 June 2012 - 07:02 PM.

[Skadi]

Bluey, on 28 June 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

its like nerf Baneblade for Imperial Guard .... so Orks can win *no wrong*
Orks have tankbustas *anti tank unit* if you say they are no match face to face;True
they are no match but Tankbustas have camouflage to surprise them.

I just watched a Dow2 match. Losing team said fff balance Baneblade too strong WELL duh sending 5 tanks vs a tank killer never works.

[Joseph Mallan]

Endless You do understand that the Star League tech was inferior to Clan Tech also right? It wasn't till we started to grasp Clan tactics and manipulate them that the Inner Sphere began winning engagements. At The great Refusal on Tukayyid, ComStar only won the trail due to beating the Clans weak supply line. Are the Clanners going to follow the canon and fight normally?

[FactorlanP]

Seems simple to me... Force Zellbrigen.

When a match starts, the first clanner to hit an IS Mech claims that Mech. No other clanners' weapons will fire on that Mech, unless it fires on them.

Have the Targeting box indicate which clanner has the right to fight each Mech. If you didn't want to actually prevent the clanners from firing on a claimed Mech, you could impose heavy C-Bill and Honor penalties for hitting a Mech that you don't have the right to kill.

Of course, the IS guys wouldn't have these restrictions and can use them to their advantage in a fight.

If the C-Bill/Honor penalty is harsh enough, it will force clan players to follow the Zellbrigen rules or be cash poor. You could also allow bonus C-Bills to sticking to the proper clan way.

Then have the Honor points, which clanners should need to build up to get rank and better contracts etc maybe. Having Honor points of some sort would prevent clanners from just buying C-Bills with real cash.

Just thinking out loud. I think that a system could be divised to force clanners to act like clanners.

[EDMW CSN]

No Clan till much later please.
Maybe early 2013 yes but not now.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

FactorlanP, on 28 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Seems simple to me... Force Zellbrigen.

When a match starts, the first clanner to hit an IS Mech claims that Mech. No other clanners' weapons will fire on that Mech, unless it fires on them.

Have the Targeting box indicate which clanner has the right to fight each Mech. If you didn't want to actually prevent the clanners from firing on a claimed Mech, you could impose heavy C-Bill and Honor penalties for hitting a Mech that you don't have the right to kill.

Of course, the IS guys wouldn't have these restrictions and can use them to their advantage in a fight.

If the C-Bill/Honor penalty is harsh enough, it will force clan players to follow the Zellbrigen rules or be cash poor. You could also allow bonus C-Bills to sticking to the proper clan way.

Then have the Honor points, which clanners should need to build up to get rank and better contracts etc maybe. Having Honor points of some sort would prevent clanners from just buying C-Bills with real cash.

Just thinking out loud. I think that a system could be divised to force clanners to act like clanners.

lol then youd get rid of the people that dont actually WANT to be clanners

[Aethon]

EDMW CSN, on 28 June 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

No Clan till much later please.
Maybe early 2013 yes but not now.

In case you didn't read the timeline...the Clan invasion doesn't really start until then anyway. No one is saying the Clans will be here at launch.

[FactorlanP]

514yer, on 28 June 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

lol then youd get rid of the people that dont actually WANT to be clanners

Exactly... The remaining clanners would be the folks who, for whatever reason, are most dedicated and interested in the clans.

[Death Mallet]

The appropriate way to balance the clans is to give them better tech, but fewer mechs in each battle.

Its easily programmed through the matchmaking system.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Death Mallet, on 28 June 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

The appropriate way to balance the clans is to give them better tech, but fewer mechs in each battle.

Its easily programmed through the matchmaking system.

Actually IF I REMEMBER RIGHT (we know I dont have the best memory) they got more mechs per unit and better tech BUT they were all about bidding low

[lllWAVElll]

Aethon, on 28 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

In case you didn't read the timeline...the Clan invasion doesn't really start until then anyway. No one is saying the Clans will be here at launch.

Yep, the "real" Clan Invasion (1st Wave) doesn't start until March of next year: (http://www.sarna.net...eration_Revival)

[TWolfWD]

Keep the Clans the way the should be, and simply balance the numbers against them. I'm talking 8 IS vs 5 Clan and 16 IS vs 10 Clan. Basically a 2 Lance to 1 Star ratio. One team has to be all IS, other is all Clan. I think this would work.

[Jarvis]

TWolfWD, on 28 June 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Keep the Clans the way the should be, and simply balance the numbers against them. I'm talking 8 IS vs 5 Clan and 16 IS vs 10 Clan. Basically a 2 Lance to 1 Star ratio. One team has to be all IS, other is all Clan. I think this would work.

Indeed, this is the lore appropriate way to go about it as well with the way the bidding process works in the Zellbrigen (at least at the start of the invasion).

As the invasion proceeds, this can be relaxed a bit as LosTech makes it's appearance and the Zellbrigen falls in to disuse by the clans when fighting the Inner Sphere (post Battle of Tukayyid).

Edited by Jarvis, 28 June 2012 - 08:08 PM.

[Aethon]

lllWAVElll, on 28 June 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Yep, the "real" Clan Invasion (1st Wave) doesn't start until March of next year: (http://www.sarna.net...eration_Revival)

Exactly...the only people who have to worry about us before then are the pie rats.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Skadi, on 28 June 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

HELLO KITTY BANEBLADE OF DOOOOOOOOOOM!~!!!!!!

Edited by 514yer, 28 June 2012 - 08:14 PM.

[Chunkymonkey]

Have 2 companies of IS(24) versus 1 trinary of clan mechs(15) or do 1 company to 1 binary.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

HA! it worked!

[Draelren]

I hate when people bring up the idea that all clanners like is the better tech, they just want to be OP, etc etc...

Excuse me, but that is some AAA grade BS right there. Seriously.

I like the clans because of zellbrigen - if it didn't exist, they wouldn't be as attractive to me. I WANT the clans to be in this game, I would love to have to force myself to try to always shoot for that one mech, and make it a dual (unless someone broke the rules of zellbrigen and fired at anyone else). If someone was stupid enough to do that vs the clans, they deserve the beating they get from all of the clanners focus firing them down.

I am all for them being OP, but with far fewer numbers. How to handle it? Maybe 2 stars of clan mechs where there are no assaults, and only light/med/heavy's, vs 3 lances of IS, where one of the three lances is all assault.

I don't care of I'm outnumbered, I don't care if I'm outgunned. I want the honor code, I want the mechs, I want the lore.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Draelren, on 28 June 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

I hate when people bring up the idea that all clanners like is the better tech, they just want to be OP, etc etc...

Excuse me, but that is some AAA grade BS right there. Seriously.
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I don't care of I'm outnumbered, I don't care if I'm outgunned. I want the honor code, I want the mechs, I want the lore.

I agree. I WANT the clans cause I LIKE being the underdog in the fight NOT because I want to be the most OP guy on the map.

[Aethon]

514yer, on 28 June 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

HELLO KITTY BANEBLADE OF DOOOOOOOOOOM!~!!!!!!

Chaos Baneblade?!

Edited by Aethon, 28 June 2012 - 08:21 PM.