375 replies to this topic

[Gyrok]

lpmagic, on 03 February 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

Again, leaving out the obvious, and not pointing to anything. Exactly what do you mean? examples would be nice. If you wish to take a swipe, once again, please be magnanimous enough to share what it is your referring to? Obviously no names but situational would be nice. You see, I tire of relentless trolling, so I won't enter in to any real conversation, however, if your going to continue to troll, at least be forthcoming with some info that is germane to the situation you are pointing out. Unless wolf is in your forum unconditionally trolling, daily, I don't see your meaning.

They do not even have a faction forum to troll...lol.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 02 February 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

so my point still stands regardless of the pedantic details... the clans were constantly at odds with each other even during the invasion, to the point of bloodshed.

Its funny... its like you get hit by a car, the agrument is whether or not you were hit. so you are all arguing over the colour of the car, which is irrelevant to the core discussion... WERE you hit by a car.

In this case... DID the clans scrap amongst themselves during the invasion of the IS. The Answer is a resounding HELL YES THEY DID!!

SO claims of "were are only here to fight the IS and to get to Terra as a united team" are just plain rubbish. Any clan is fair game if the others feel the need to slap one about - currently thats the Wolves.

THATS what all this was about, not which clan was invading, which was watching, which was reserve...lol

Focus boys... focus.

Your post implied my Clan needed help & it is not true. I do not consider it pedantry, I consider it libel. When you are posting information regarding the lore of Battletech/Mechwarrior, especially as a Clansman, please get your facts correct.

You have made another error. The Clans did NOT "scrap amongst themselves". That was the reason for electing an ilKhan to coordinate Operation Revival.



The Clans - Warriors of Kerensky - Pg.18

If you are unsure of something, please ask a question.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 03 February 2015 - 10:00 AM.

[Noesis]

Gyrok, on 03 February 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

They do not even have a faction forum to troll...lol.

You see now this just helps to demonstrate how dellusional you are Gyrok.

The Wolf forum is not a possesion of Wolf players and is in fact open to comment based on subject material relevant to the Clan for any player of MWO.

Otherwise would you then also censor yourself from posting in other Clans forums?

And interesting also that you only then single out posters who represent contra opinions but are happy for others who may not offer such candour with opinion to post without objection who are also not of the Clan Wolf faction?

My commentary something you miss-interpret as trolling and ignore the issues for your own convenience it then seems.

What was it someone said about looking at the lowest point of intellect in a post. Even if I don't tend to measure these things in that way, but interesting that you look for fault as opposed to try and read what is being conveyed perhaps?

Edited by Noesis, 03 February 2015 - 12:00 PM.

[Kain Demos]

lpmagic, on 03 February 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

Again, leaving out the obvious, and not pointing to anything. Exactly what do you mean? examples would be nice. If you wish to take a swipe, once again, please be magnanimous enough to share what it is your referring to? Obviously no names but situational would be nice. You see, I tire of relentless trolling, so I won't enter in to any real conversation, however, if your going to continue to troll, at least be forthcoming with some info that is germane to the situation you are pointing out. Unless wolf is in your forum unconditionally trolling, daily, I don't see your meaning.

Rambling nutjobs are best left to the ignore list IMO.

[KuroNyra]

Noesis, on 03 February 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

You see now this just helps to demonstrate how dellusional you are Gyrok.

The Wolf forum is not a possesion of Wolf players and is in fact open to comment based on subject material relevant to the Clan for any player of MWO.

True, but is that an excuse to come here volontary creating flames wars and troubles?
I really doubt about it.

[Gyrok]

KuroNyra, on 04 February 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

True, but is that an excuse to come here volontary creating flames wars and troubles?
I really doubt about it.

He has been on ignore for weeks, and I see he is still flame baiting.

[Noesis]

KuroNyra, on 04 February 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

True, but is that an excuse to come here volontary creating flames wars and troubles?
I really doubt about it.

As you can see above the comment, made as a response, is only made as a result of something Gyrok has said. As such I'm not creating or instigating anything as it is in response and the only "reason" (not an excuse) then for a need to comment is to correct something that has been said that is incorrect and disrespectful to other posters.

As such the antagonism is generated by Gyrok due to him believing he can control posting behaviour and that is then the source or creation of the troubles you appear to be concerned about.

Edited by Noesis, 04 February 2015 - 07:03 PM.

[Davers]

Noesis, why do you hate commas so much?

[Noesis]

Davers, on 04 February 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

Noesis, why do you hate commas so much?

I don't.

[Manny Rhyde]

commas are the bane of all darkborn and must be eliminated D:<

[Noesis]

manny082, on 04 February 2015 - 05:56 PM, said:

commas are the bane of all darkborn and must be eliminated D:<

Context and convention are only needed to explain the meaning. There is nothing really gramatically incorrect with my above post. Expected pauses are interpreted sufficiently and not needed as a rule, although "made as a response" in the first sentence could be better conveyed as a non-restrictive clause. So have edited it for user friendliness, even if it does not change the meaning of the presented prose.

However, interesting that you seem less concerned with the actual issues or the "content" the message is conveying as per the purpose of language.

Pendantry seems rife in the Clan Wolf forum and usually since there is no intelligent response to the commentary made with regard to the issues, so some other form of "diversion" or "deflection" then seems neccesary as opposed to having a constructive social narrative. "Appearing" to be right regardless of the topic material more important than constructive dialouge or relations with others it seems.

But I guess this is the interwebs and you have to make allowances for the lack of progression with rational ideas due to this "one upmanship" or imature approach to discussion.

Edited by Noesis, 04 February 2015 - 07:06 PM.

[Noesis]

[Noesis]

Gyrok, on 04 February 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

He hates them because his grammar is the worst I have ever seen from someone who claims to be a genius.

Even mathematicians can grasp the basic tenets of sentence structure...Noesis writes like he failed 3rd grade english and never recovered.

Fallacy and ad-hominem.

I have not claimed to be a genius, I have only upheld that intellect can be considered useful in a previous discussion. If you miss-interpreted or read into this in a different way then perhaps you need to consider the values on how you place importance of meaning on what is actually said?

The rest of the post then is again just avoiding the issues and being insulting.

See above comment.

[Fox Kell]

Gyrok, on 04 February 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

He hates them because his grammar is the worst I have ever seen from someone who claims to be a genius.

Even mathematicians can grasp the basic tenets of sentence structure...Noesis writes like he failed 3rd grade english and never recovered.

Is he still trying to flame on Wolf boards? He's persistent, I'll give him that. Thank God he's on ignore. I suggest everyone do the same. Enjoy

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Gyrok, on 04 February 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

He hates them because his grammar is the worst I have ever seen from someone who claims to be a genius.

Even mathematicians can grasp the basic tenets of sentence structure...Noesis writes like he failed 3rd grade english and never recovered.

Being so insulting over missing punctuation is not exactly the best way to appear as anything other than the picture some on these forums paint of you.

Also, make sure to capitalize "English" if you are dead-set on correcting minor errors in other people's writing.

[HARDKOR]

[operatorZ]

Noesis, on 04 February 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

Context and convention are only needed to explain the meaning. There is nothing really gramatically incorrect with my above post. Expected pauses are interpreted sufficiently and not needed as a rule, although "made as a response" in the first sentence could be better conveyed as a non-restrictive clause. So have edited it for user friendliness, even if it does not change the meaning of the presented prose.

However, interesting that you seem less concerned with the actual issues or the "content" the message is conveying as per the purpose of language.

Pendantry seems rife in the Clan Wolf forum and usually since there is no intelligent response to the commentary made with regard to the issues, so some other form of "diversion" or "deflection" then seems neccesary as opposed to having a constructive social narrative. "Appearing" to be right regardless of the topic material more important than constructive dialouge or relations with others it seems.

But I guess this is the interwebs and you have to make allowances for the lack of progression with rational ideas due to this "one upmanship" or imature approach to discussion.

In gods name man whatever are you blathering about!

You keep talking about "actual issues", "constructive social narrative" and "rational ideas" but all the rest of us see is somebody who has zero business discussing anything with anybody due to your attempts at provocation and propaganda. If you really wanted to engage in "constructive social narrative" rather than just trying to troll people for "reasons" you might actually get a response that fits it into a more "logical" discussion.

Maybe most people here, like me, have seen your attempts at "communication" as being thinly veiled trolling....masked in obtuse language and propaganda.

Don't blame other people for deciding to not listen to you or have a conversation with you when your reputation proceeds you.

[Noesis]

operatorZ, on 05 February 2015 - 07:11 AM, said:

In gods name man whatever are you blathering about!

You keep talking about "actual issues", "constructive social narrative" and "rational ideas" but all the rest of us see is somebody who has zero business discussing anything with anybody due to your attempts at provocation and propaganda. If you really wanted to engage in "constructive social narrative" rather than just trying to troll people for "reasons" you might actually get a response that fits it into a more "logical" discussion.

Maybe most people here, like me, have seen your attempts at "communication" as being thinly veiled trolling....masked in obtuse language and propaganda.

Don't blame other people for deciding to not listen to you or have a conversation with you when your reputation proceeds you.

So basically you are saying you are going to take anything that I say and declare it as trolling despite the actual presented context and what it being discussed.

Do you know how ignorant and prejudicial you are being with that stance?

Also do you then realise that as a result you are only helping to confirm the very things that I'm then talking about and the problems you are generating with that subject matter. E.g. Clan Wolf members not having an effective social narrative or a willingness to discuss the issues on meritas.

You're also then blaming me in response to defending my position and opinion. So equally not allowing for freedoms of expression in an open forum available to all MWO players.

Edited by Noesis, 05 February 2015 - 07:30 AM.

[Gyrok]

Rouken, on 05 February 2015 - 06:38 AM, said:

Being so insulting over missing punctuation is not exactly the best way to appear as anything other than the picture some on these forums paint of you.

Also, make sure to capitalize "English" if you are dead-set on correcting minor errors in other people's writing.

Ignoring everything about spelling, punctuation, and capitalization are not "minor" errors...you are nitpicking a minor error.

Half the time you cannot even read what he wrote without taking time to try to figure out what he was trying to say because the text is so bad. Not because of word use either, just because of the terrible use of phrasing and out of context remarks with no punctuation.

This is what you see when you read one of his posts:

Noesis, i new tat teh crytpic writngs of tihs forum wood 1 day overcom you your tryng to hard to be sum kindof forum waryer and wehn yuo finaly relize that teh entire wolf form has you ignored you mihgt get a cloo as to how this will eventualy all work out for you teh realty si that you may never realze your transgresions go above and beyond teh people in tehse forums and the hole world will some day relize that your nohting more than a simple troll taht is why your on ignor by so many peopl.e

He usually has a few non sequitur remarks in there and a few words that sound intelligent used out of context, but you get the gist.

[operatorZ]

Noesis, on 05 February 2015 - 07:24 AM, said:

So basically you are saying you are going to take anything that I say and declare it as trolling despite the actual presented context and what it being discussed.

Do you know how ignorant and prejudicial you are being with that stance?

Also do you then realise that as a result you are only helping to confirm the very things that I'm then talking about and the problems you are generating with that subject matter. E.g. Clan Wolf members not having an effective social narrative or a willingness to discuss the issues on meritas.

You're also then blaming me in response to defending my position and opinion. So equally not allowing for freedoms of expression in an open forum available to all MWO players.

Oh we have communication in Clan Wolf....just not with you. Why would we communicate with someone who calls people ignorant for pointing out the facts of the matter? You cant take back all the troll posts you have made, people remember them. In life if you go around acting disrespectful to people you usually get the same response back. People remember you for being this way.....

Whats ignorant is expecting people to forget your past actions. Nobody cares what you say here...nobody probably ever will.....because of your actions....your actions....its you, is what I mean...the people who you have insulted don't want to communicate with you....ever.

You can argue all day till your blue in the face that you didn't "insult" anyone and that you are just "RP"ing or that this is somehow Clan Wolfs problem (lol)...but guess what? Nobody care's ....right or wrong they felt slighted by you.

That's why you should try and be more constructive and less trolley in your future gaming adventures...but hey its never to late to start an alt account and try to be better.

reap...sow