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[Punk Oblivion]

I am not angry at the current formula (though I have been 'kill screwed before) But I would like to see the new scoring system used in these tournies.
Something like:

Kill = 15
Assist = 15
Solo Kill = 30

[Flaming oblivion]

I think a kill and a assist being worth different ammounts encourages not killing, Lost a few games through it . I try to take crippled mechs down but if their with freinds and no one will help me not a lot I can do but except the loss to 8 mechs under 50% sigh,,,,,,,

[The Great Unwashed]

I wonder why the normal match score is not used.... everything get rewards. .

[Brizna]

Mercenary event is great, Thanks a lot PGI

May I make a suggestion to make it even better?? Please add a counter to the challenge page showing how many of your matches qualifies ;D

[Insects]

Sleek34, on 27 January 2015 - 04:51 PM, said:

So i'll just state the one flaw here, notice how many people run lrm boats during events?

They are entertaining to kill in a light though.
Especially at the end where the aim is to leg them and let the rest of the pack peck away to get their assists. It is like torturing them before someone puts them down.
More lurm means less light killers and more plump targets with nothing but LRM and one small laser.

Also means your UAV and narcs will be rewarded with bonus credits and XP.

[Dulahan]

Gotta agree with the people who think Kills and Assists should be worth the same. Valuing one higher than the other either way does bad things to the real 'value' a player has. Especially since damage is still part of things, if an annoyingly low scoring element of it.

Put both to x15 and be done with it. We'd have a viable formula for these events. Or set both lower to x10 but increase the worth of damage, which is probably an even better solution.

And as for the actual 'match score' - does anyone even know how that's calculated? I sure can't figure it out. Which is why I'm glad they don't use that too often.

[Strykewolf]

( (kill x 10) + (Assist x 15) + (Damage dealt - friendly damage) /15) ?

or, like other folks say...

(kill x 10) + (Assist x 15) + (Damage dealt - friendly damage)/15) ?

Think It's the first one since, I've had a few matches where the second would qualify.

(Edit) Still neat to see the contest, thouh.

Edited by Strykewolf, 28 January 2015 - 07:05 AM.

[Insects]

Dulahan, on 28 January 2015 - 06:58 AM, said:

Gotta agree with the people who think Kills and Assists should be worth the same. Valuing one higher than the other either way does bad things to the real 'value' a player has.

I think the idea is to make the team play together and share.
Introduces a new element to the games repetitiveness for a few days.

But yeah it is a penalty on whoever does the necessary kill.

Remember it is only $0.10 per successful match. Not worth stressing over or slaving away for that tiny payment. Go collect cans from garbage bins or something, each can you find is like a qualifying match, hooray!
Just play the game as you enjoy. Take the kills and enjoy the boost to your kill death ratio for the week. Enjoy an enemy who is pulling their punches to avoid killing you while you go straight for their heart without mercy.

Bad teams works both ways, you will lose some because of avoiding kills but also win some.
If you are the teams Johnny on the spot executioner in a fast mech then on average your teams should have better success than teams where everyone is desperate to avoid the 10 point execution penalty.

[DelphiAuriga]

Nick Drezary, on 27 January 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

Can we get some kind of counter for qualified matches on tournament page?
100 matches is kind of hard to keep track of.

https://mwomercs.com/tournaments

Strykewolf, on 28 January 2015 - 07:02 AM, said:

( (kill x 10) + (Assist x 15) + (Damage dealt - friendly damage) /15) ?

or, like other folks say...

(kill x 10) + (Assist x 15) + (Damage dealt - friendly damage)/15) ?

Think It's the first one since, I've had a few matches where the second would qualify.

(Edit) Still neat to see the contest, thouh.

Match Points = (Kills × 10) + (Kill Assist × 20) + ((Damage Done - Team Damage) ÷ 15)

Taken from here:
https://mwomercs.com/tournaments

Edited by DelphiAuriga, 28 January 2015 - 07:41 AM.

[Thanatos31]

I like it. Thank you PGI!

[Almond Brown]

Kjudoon, on 27 January 2015 - 06:44 PM, said:

2x20
7x10
855 - team damage/15

All I can think is you did a lot of team damage.

Wasn't there, so Idunno.

Not big on Maths, but that would mean I would have done some 1300+ FF damage????
I will check but that is not very likely. Very careful not to shoot allies.

P.S. That 855 game did count.

It just isn't using the Tourney formula for end Match scoring? Not sure why but I show 4 Wins that count of 8 played. (phew, 1300+ FF damage would have been bad LOL)

Edited by Almond Brown, 28 January 2015 - 08:12 AM.

[Scout Derek]

Ugh... people already complaining... jump into a damn ppc or erppc mech and snipe. Assists...

[mad kat]

Time to dust of my ERLL Spider and go spraying mechs. Finally a fun challenge! maybe able to afford a mechbay without buying anything too yay.

[Tarogato]

EASY WAY TO COUNT
# QUALIFYING MATCHES:

View HTML source of the tournament page.

Ctrl+F. Input "tick.png"

It'll show the number of results it found, which in this case is green check marks.

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Edited by Tarogato, 28 January 2015 - 08:52 AM.

[DelphiAuriga]

Tarogato, on 28 January 2015 - 08:50 AM, said:

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[Desintegrator]

Thanks PGI - Time to earn some money.

[Saobh]

Lily from animove, on 28 January 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

I have during the entire series of the all those assits > kills events not have seen this behavior. because when people don't kill there will also be no assist, and you probably even die. So no idea where you pilots constantly meet these weird unlogically behaving individuals.

well had several cases of this today, one guy even told me in squad chat he didn't give a frak about the team and just ran in to get the max of assits hits and die to move to the next match ...

getting some very bad rounds tbh with teamwork having gone out the window, people not communicating nor listening when you spot the enemy under ecm coming in their flank.

At least with the "survive" varaible a while ago people actually had to work as a team to make it and thus learned the hard way ... right now its MCCCCCCC !!! and to hell with the rest. all that just to grind 20$ worth of MC

[Scum of the Earth]

I know this is a "free" event with gifts. However, I do have a HUGE problem with the formula.

Why do you punish people for killing their targets? You can have 8 teammates each shoot a machine gun at a target, do 1-5 points of damage while you wail away with ACs. They each get 20 points each while you end up with 10. You essentially loss points for doing well. I could understand getting 10 points for a solo kill (i.e. your quad Gauss rifle assault 1 shoting a Locust) but you should get MORE points for team concentration fire with the killing blow (i.e. you get 30 [10+20] while your teammates get 20).

It's just sad that I had a great game, did 400 points of damage but I got 4 kills and 2 assists where I would have gotten a point for just the 6 assists.

I see this example as a huge problem. What another player stated was the firestarter suicide run. They run in, tag 7 targets and die. They quit the match and start another and hope their team wins. They spend 2 minutes in a game for a point while you do 10x more damage for 10 minutes and come up short on the assists for a point. That's why I do not like this formula at all.

[draiocht]

Saobh, on 28 January 2015 - 10:16 AM, said:

and to hell with the rest. all that just to grind 20$ worth of MC

only about $10.

This scoring formula met plenty of ridicule last time around, so it's weird that it's back all the same. Or maybe this is PGI's nasty commentary about how they view mercenaries?

[LT. HARDCASE]

Nice event, but why can't we just once have kills and assists be worth equal points?