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[Mavairo]

Honestly, who is the guy making these decisions?
The Catapult and it's VCRs was already a grevious offense. The K2's weeny ppcs ditto.

PGI just Stop It At no point should an AC10 or AC20 look like a machine gun. It's a Cannon.

I decided to start equipping my Centurions for the first time in..... I'm not sure how long.
Figuring maybe quirks took it out of the dumpster in power.

Only to find this travesty, which is so egregious that the Centurion is going right back to being Invalid.

Stop Normalizing Weapon Sizes.
I'm in total fear of the day you decide to turn your slovenly grubby hands upon the Dragon, Awesome, and hosts of other mechs. Just Stop It already.






Who thought the first screen shot was an improvement? Whoever that guy is? Should be fired.

Edited by Mavairo, 27 January 2015 - 09:52 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

Maybe they'll fix it one day. The gun, while comical, isn't quite as bad as the new missile hardpoints. Look at the above pic if you don't own a cent.

Edited by Vassago Rain, 27 January 2015 - 10:02 PM.

[Aethon]

Mavairo, on 27 January 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Truth.

I have been wondering what the hell they did to my beloved Centurion since the day I came back to MWO. Seriously WTF? The new arm is hideous. There should be exceptions to the new universal weapon mount system; this mech did not need them that much.

Also, the missile hardpoints just look wrong now; very un-Cent-like.

Edited by Aethon, 27 January 2015 - 10:03 PM.

[Mavairo]

Aethon, on 27 January 2015 - 10:01 PM, said:

I have been wondering what the hell they did to my beloved Centurion since the day I came back to MWO. Seriously WTF? The new arm is hideous. There should be exceptions to the new universal weapon mount system; this mech did not need them that much.

Also, the missile hardpoints just look wrong now; very un-Cent-like.

Very unmech like in generaly, honestly.
It's like they've completely forgotten that this game is mech porn. And you can't have mech porn without weapons befitting the mechs wielding them.

Also as a side note PGI, ALL of the clan ballistic weapons look stupid.
Ask any Timber player...or any clan mech player what kind of ballistic arm they'd rather have. Their weeny guns....

or the Dragon's Cannon Arm. Or the Old Centurion Arms...
I highly doubt you would get a single response wanting the weeny guns.
I mean seriously.


Who likes the Timber's ballistic arm compared to that?! (by the way that's my timber diecast ontop of my old computer tower. the timber is now sitting ontop of my stereo system still front and center to anyone looking around at my desk/gaming area)

Edited by Mavairo, 27 January 2015 - 10:19 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mavairo, on 27 January 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Honestly, who is the guy making these decisions?
The Catapult and it's VCRs was already a grevious offense. The K2's weeny ppcs ditto.

PGI just Stop It At no point should an AC10 or AC20 look like a machine gun. It's a Cannon.

I decided to start equipping my Centurions for the first time in..... I'm not sure how long.
Figuring maybe quirks took it out of the dumpster in power.

Only to find this travesty, which is so egregious that the Centurion is going right back to being Invalid.

Stop Normalizing Weapon Sizes.
I'm in total fear of the day you decide to turn your slovenly grubby hands upon the Dragon, Awesome, and hosts of other mechs. Just Stop It already.






Who thought the first screen shot was an improvement? Whoever that guy is? Should be fired.

You know,,, i was in denial...pretending life was good.....

then you HAD to go post that CN9-D. That LB-X is total sex.

Not Sure what to do. Russ and crew has roundly ignored my Itty Bitty PPC thread. And my related thread on Scaling.


Weapons need to simply be a single size, regardless the mech. Maybe a 10% variance allowed, total.
But THIS?


How this remotely can sneak by QA is completely mindblowing.
Oops...fixed that for you.


But what if they slap 2 PPC on the arm you say?


Tough. You shouldn't be able to slap 14 tons of ppcs onto one arm of a 35 ton mech any dang way.


Now fix my dang Centurion!

[Aethon]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 January 2015 - 10:15 PM, said:

Now fix my dang Centurion!

What that Firestarter reminds me of:



Seriously, though...this would be awesome.

Edited by Aethon, 27 January 2015 - 10:24 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

it's NOT THAT HARD

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 27 January 2015 - 10:44 PM.

[Mavairo]

5N UAC5 Arm

Timberwolf UAC5 Weeny Arm.

Which mech to you guys looks like a 75 ton monstrosity spitting out a 75 mm series of shells...and which one looks like someone took a 75 ton mech, and slapped a child's toy on it.

Edited by Mavairo, 27 January 2015 - 10:27 PM.

[Wrath of Clan Wolverine]

PGI was already aware of the issue when they released the revisions. They have a rework in progress for scaling issues for many of the problem mechs, though I cannot recall mention of a particular ETA. I believe this came up in the last Town Hall with Russ.

[Mavairo]

Wrath of Clan Wolverine, on 27 January 2015 - 10:29 PM, said:

PGI was already aware of the issue when they released the revisions. They have a rework in progress for scaling issues for many of the problem mechs, though I cannot recall mention of a particular ETA. I believe this came up in the last Town Hall with Russ.

Then they shouldn't have released the crap guns to start with...
It's been well over a year (a year and almost 3 months) since the travesty of the K2 PPCs and VCR additions to the Catapult.
I'm not even sure when this train wreck happened with the Centi.
And since the release of clan mechs, with their weeny guns.

[Brody319]

Several mechs are getting redesigned.

Bishop Steiner, on 27 January 2015 - 10:25 PM, said:

it's NOT THAT HARD

I'd actually prefer they keep the weapons small on lights...We all saw what happens when they are giant with the Lynx.

[Bishop Steiner]

Brody319, on 27 January 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:

Several mechs are getting redesigned.



I'd actually prefer they keep the weapons small on lights...We all saw what happens when they are giant with the Lynx.

Honestly don't care. You want to pack a PPC on a 25 ton mech, ti should be big. Heck on the firestarter it would just make it tankier than it already is

SOON^tm

[LordKnightFandragon]

Mavairo, on 27 January 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

Very unmech like in generaly, honestly.
It's like they've completely forgotten that this game is mech porn. And you can't have mech porn without weapons befitting the mechs wielding them.

Also as a side note PGI, ALL of the clan ballistic weapons look stupid.
Ask any Timber player...or any clan mech player what kind of ballistic arm they'd rather have. Their weeny guns....

or the Dragon's Cannon Arm. Or the Old Centurion Arms...
I highly doubt you would get a single response wanting the weeny guns.
I mean seriously.


Who likes the Timber's ballistic arm compared to that?! (by the way that's my timber diecast ontop of my old computer tower. the timber is now sitting ontop of my stereo system still front and center to anyone looking around at my desk/gaming area)

Yes Mech Porn, very beautifully orgasmic Mech porn.

That thing is gorgeous hahah.


Alongside the Centurion gun arm, I want the Mad Dogs long barrels and the Warhawks long barrels.....

Others want the big PPC guns on the K2 back....

Bishop Steiner, on 27 January 2015 - 10:45 PM, said:

Honestly don't care. You want to pack a PPC on a 25 ton mech, ti should be big. Heck on the firestarter it would just make it tankier than it already is

SOON^tm

Awesome with booblies...

And I thought mechs had to balanced on both sides, otherwise it throws off the mech's gyro and balacing systems. I know the mechs balance is based on the pilot, but having 45t on one side of the mech and 12 on the other.........would have some very bad effects when moving and stuff......

So while you put a PPC on side of the FS9, its kinda why the mech has 7t of gear on the other side. Some mechs cant even pack certain weapons cuz of that....or was I hearing things when I heard that?

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 27 January 2015 - 10:52 PM.

[xengk]

Mavairo, on 27 January 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

Who likes the Timber's ballistic arm compared to that?! (by the way that's my timber diecast ontop of my old computer tower. the timber is now sitting ontop of my stereo system still front and center to anyone looking around at my desk/gaming area)

how can I get one of those?

[Hans Von Lohman]

This is a known bug. Hell, it was even mentioned in the patch notes when the Centurion got it's visible weapons. The autocannons are NOT supposed to be that small.

The last update even mentioned they made progress on this bug as well.

[Bishop Steiner]

did someone dial 976-MEK-PORN?

[627]

I'm actually fine with different sizes of guns because you could always explain that with lore and different manufacturers. But it have to stay within reason.

That firestarters PPCs look hideous but the PPC on a spider arm seems like right for me (Not in screenshot, that up there is the shopped version).




... Oh may Cats, what would I give to get their looks back

Edited by 627, 27 January 2015 - 10:59 PM.

[Brody319]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 January 2015 - 10:45 PM, said:

Honestly don't care. You want to pack a PPC on a 25 ton mech, ti should be big. Heck on the firestarter it would just make it tankier than it already is

SOON^tm

See the problem I have with it, is mechs that are supposed to mount PPCs suffer more, than mechs that aren't. Most lights don't put on a PPC they prefer small lasers, small pulse lasers or large lasers over PPCs since they have limited tonnage.

I mean the Panther who is meant to carry a PPC with one that big, would be DOA no matter the quirks. It would be such a huge target, and with how the mech is laid out, it would lose its main weapon almost instantly.


I'd rather they keep the scale for lights, fix the mediums, heavies and assaults.

[The Wakelord]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 January 2015 - 10:25 PM, said:

it's NOT THAT HARD

If PPCs looked like that all my lights would use them (and then I'd be sad when arms get blown off for increasing my mech's volume by 40% but I'd look awesome before I blew up)

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Mavairo, on 27 January 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

Then they shouldn't have released the crap guns to start with...
It's been well over a year (a year and almost 3 months) since the travesty of the K2 PPCs and VCR additions to the Catapult.
I'm not even sure when this train wreck happened with the Centi.
And since the release of clan mechs, with their weeny guns.

Id say Q&A was lostech but they knew ahead of time so... yeah