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Will HellFire, on 05 February 2015 - 02:53 AM, said:
]Reading all the responses the clan players have when someone in IS shouts "Timbercheese! Stormcrowcheese!" and then they point at 1 ONE one 1 variant of the Thunderbolt and a couple of lights variants....
You guys have 3 AMAZINGLY flexible variants per Mech to choose. You can equip different Timbers and Stormcrows in the same drop deck, one with SSRMs, another with laser vomit, yet a third with LRMS, or ballistics, or whathever you want.
We are stuck with ERPPCs. One Mech, of one variant, with one weapon.
I guess, the only solution is buy multiples and use them.
You guys dont admit the fact that storms and timbers give you an amazing array of advantages: speed, flexibility in loadouts, adaptability. My thunderbolt gives me THE BEST gameplay at one type of gameplay. But I CANT change it. If I want to be there with you clanners, I am forced to play ERPPCs. And like 90% of the players, I only have 1 TDR-9S. What about my other 175 tons and 3 Mechs? Those are completely under the required performance to play againt Clans.
So only one solution: Buy myself multiples of that Mech.
I think more and more people are starting to realize this. So the only thing you get clanners for your stubborness to recognize what is obvious is actually people hearing what you say, and go full cheese on you
You guys have 3 AMAZINGLY flexible variants per Mech to choose. You can equip different Timbers and Stormcrows in the same drop deck, one with SSRMs, another with laser vomit, yet a third with LRMS, or ballistics, or whathever you want.
We are stuck with ERPPCs. One Mech, of one variant, with one weapon.
I guess, the only solution is buy multiples and use them.
You guys dont admit the fact that storms and timbers give you an amazing array of advantages: speed, flexibility in loadouts, adaptability. My thunderbolt gives me THE BEST gameplay at one type of gameplay. But I CANT change it. If I want to be there with you clanners, I am forced to play ERPPCs. And like 90% of the players, I only have 1 TDR-9S. What about my other 175 tons and 3 Mechs? Those are completely under the required performance to play againt Clans.
So only one solution: Buy myself multiples of that Mech.
I think more and more people are starting to realize this. So the only thing you get clanners for your stubborness to recognize what is obvious is actually people hearing what you say, and go full cheese on you
Speed is more of a disadvantage, I think you should **** bricks if the timberwolf had an XL 300 instead of a XL 375. 11 tons more to play with while still going at a decent speed.
Flexibility? Yes, 4 ER medium lasers + 2 Large pulse lasers. Becuase Running ballistics on the timberwolf atm is a very poor idea and running missiles is an even worse idea. Stormcrow has a lucky acceptation to the missile situation.
So much for flexible variants and such.
Tell me, thunderbolt 9S has 2 AMS hardpoints, 2 Ballistic hardpoints, 6 total energy hardpoints, 1 missile hardpoint. You can do more **** then just 3 ER PPC's and you know it.
you could do a 2 AC 5, 1 ER PPC, 5 medium laser, and a SSRM 2 build if you want, or 2 AMS, 2 ER PPC, 4 Medium laser build. Or an LRM 20 + A, 2 AMS, ER large laser, etc.
because keep in mind half the er ppc quirk still applies to normal weapons of that type and a 25% reduced heat for any energy weapon is better then most mechs specialised total for reduced heat.
Even then no clanner buys 2 of the same chassi unless they literally have every other chassi and/or have money in there pocket. It costs a lot to get a clan mech.
You have 3 different Thunderbolts and we have 3 different timberwolfs.
you can have an LRM 20 + LRM 10 with few lasers and such on the 5S, you can have a due lballistic on the 9S or 5S, you can have SRM's on the 9SE and jumpjets, there are large pulse boats nad medium pulse boats to do.
The Thunderbolt is thus has more uniqueness and more range of builds then the Timberwolf, which is limited by 2. the one I mentioned above and the 100% ER large laser build.
Tell me, when was the last time you saw missiles on a timberwolf that ISN'T a trial?
When was the last time you saw ballistics on one when it isn't a trial?
you guys do not even need viarity with your builds, the 50% less heat ER PPC's even out do most of our ballistic and missile weapons. Your ER PPC's have high accuracy fast pinpoint damage. making our LRM's obselete to a PPC in range, accuracy, speed, heat, and fire rate.
SRM's? simular jist. It makes more heat and spreads more and needs ammo while lightning-bolt doesn't need ammo, does more damage, pinpoint, and less heat.
UAC's ? simular story.
Like it or not. The thunderbolt 9S has a clear advantage. 75% of clan mechs are not on par with any IS mech besides the former-metas that have no love (Cataphract, highlander, atlas, etc)
The bare few that work (Stormcrow and Timberwofl) are aquesed of being spammed because they are OP, which isn't the case.
The light mechs are completely obsolete besides 1 factor (ECM) to the stormcrow.
and mechs like the summoner and mad dog also have issues to compete with the Stormcrow (the Mad Dog bloody has the same workable tonnage as the stormcrow, SC is 5 tons lighter but has both ES and FF while mad dog only has FF)
Timberwolf? only way to go bigger without being a waste, Sumomner? Gargoyle? warhawk? direwolf? useless in CW. Hellbringer? only with ECM, without it then it stays with the summoner.
I am not a meta player, I played T5 mechs before it was cool, but seeing these mechs post quirked and then seeing clans with both nerfed tech and behind with no quirks that's when my eyes opened up to see the unfair situation here.
because on paper with firepower.
1 Thunderbolt 9S = 4 Warhawks.
1 Locust 1V = 2 Timberwolfs.
That's a few examples. Timberwolf sucks at anything that isn't energy boating and Stormcrow shouldn't have it's iconic missiles neglected.
