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#221 JadeTimberwolf

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:04 PM

View PostMercStar Recruiter, on 04 February 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:


It has not a thing to do with where are might and might not go, you will have to wait till the weekend like hybrid said, it is going to be a fun one for sure.



My guess with this statement, -MS- splits to cover multiple factions at once and test themselves against each other in CW for a few weeks before reforming into one huge unit again.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:17 PM

View PostJadeTimberwolf, on 04 February 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:



My guess with this statement, -MS- splits to cover multiple factions at once and test themselves against each other in CW for a few weeks before reforming into one huge unit again.


Or they join you guys to hit us from another side. After all, our border has had the least action since CW started. Mercs in Ghost Bear and Smoke Jaguar have led to skirmishes between them off and on and then obviously we have been at war with Ghost Bear for a while. The only action that I can recall between Wolf and Jade Falcon was with one unit and one planet and in retrospect seems like was just some light hearted, good humored goofing off.

Successfully lighting off a conflict between our factions would result in all of the clans openly fighting each other for the first time since CW started. I do not know what the current situation is on the CGB/CSJ border though. The big thread over there died down so maybe things calmed down.

Edited by Kain Thul, 04 February 2015 - 01:20 PM.


#223 CyclonerM

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:34 PM

Good guess Kain..

Now i wonder: what would the Falcons do and say if MS joins them and starts attacking us? Would they support them?

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:37 PM

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#225 Lily from animove

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:38 PM

View PostoperatorZ, on 04 February 2015 - 10:20 AM, said:


lemme guess....MS is going to switch to another faction and cause a disturbance in the force lol :lol:

wow! I never saw that coming...... :rolleyes:


lets hope they go FRR or liaou, just as far way from clanners as possible, one unit can nto be further away from the clan spirit than MS.

View PostCyclonerM, on 04 February 2015 - 01:34 PM, said:

Good guess Kain..

Now i wonder: what would the Falcons do and say if MS joins them and starts attacking us? Would they support them?



I hope and think the other falcons have more brain and do not join those faction trolls.

Edited by Lily from animove, 04 February 2015 - 01:39 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:48 PM

I can not say what we Falcons would do, I do know that from conversations I have been a part of none of the major Falcon Groups are interested in hostilities between the Clans in any way shape or form at this moment or in the near future. I also know that I would encourage my unit as small as we are to not engage in any offense against wolves or any other clan for the time being as it is counter productive to the goals of the invasion.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:02 PM

View PostJadeTimberwolf, on 04 February 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

I can not say what we Falcons would do, I do know that from conversations I have been a part of none of the major Falcon Groups are interested in hostilities between the Clans in any way shape or form at this moment or in the near future. I also know that I would encourage my unit as small as we are to not engage in any offense against wolves or any other clan for the time being as it is counter productive to the goals of the invasion.


That is good to hear!

I think they will go FRR cause of all the drama they could create.
They could "stop" the invasion singlehandedly (since bear would be defanged with their desertion, they would only need to fight csj) and take back turk(something or other, don't want to even try to spell it). Then they could attack thru bear and attack wolf after which they could claim they were doing it to help wolf by creating an attack lane. Finally they can then still attack falcon, kurita, and
Stiener

Note: please ignore any weird verbage, my phone might have made some odd autocorrects

#228 CyclonerM

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:17 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 04 February 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:


lets hope they go FRR or liaou, just as far way from clanners as possible, one unit can nto be further away from the clan spirit than MS.

They could help the poor Kuritans against CSJ , they desperately need help...

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I hope and think the other falcons have more brain and do not join those faction trolls.

That is my hope as well.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:20 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 04 February 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

I hope and think the other falcons have more brain and do not join those faction trolls.


Faction trolls? Mercs are mercs, they go where the money is best. Now I will say that the merc role could have been implemented better in the game in light of the games history but you need to remember that 1) this is beta and 2) sadly not all things lorewise translate into a playable, fun game.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:27 PM

View PostNecromantion, on 04 February 2015 - 02:20 PM, said:

Faction trolls? Mercs are mercs, they go where the money is best. Now I will say that the merc role could have been implemented better in the game in light of the games history but you need to remember that 1) this is beta and 2) sadly not all things lorewise translate into a playable, fun game.




I think it has much less to do with Lore as it does trolling. I think you're looking too deep into it.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:32 PM

View PostTheDeckardCain, on 04 February 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:


I think it has much less to do with Lore as it does trolling. I think you're looking too deep into it.


The original person to post that comment was referring to -MS- and saying that we are trolling, when that is not the case at all. How are we trolling by choosing a faction and fighting for them until we feel like swapping or changing between IS and Clan so that people can use all the mechs they paid for and enjoy playing and to switch things up a bit? None of that strikes me as trolling.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:40 PM

View PostNecromantion, on 04 February 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

The original person to post that comment was referring to -MS- and saying that we are trolling, when that is not the case at all. How are we trolling by choosing a faction and fighting for them until we feel like swapping or changing between IS and Clan so that people can use all the mechs they paid for and enjoy playing and to switch things up a bit? None of that strikes me as trolling.


Look at all the people cross-posting in each other's forums, making little pretend internet posters/images, taking screen shots, talking ****, etc.

I call that trolling. If someone else calls it something else that is up to them.

Edited by Kain Thul, 04 February 2015 - 02:40 PM.


#233 Necromantion

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:43 PM

Look at how there are members of every faction/unit doing this?

Once again he was calling us faction trolls, which I assume somehow would relate to our play in game and/or swapping factions as we see fit.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:50 PM

View PostNecromantion, on 04 February 2015 - 02:20 PM, said:

Faction trolls? Mercs are mercs, they go where the money is best. Now I will say that the merc role could have been implemented better in the game in light of the games history but you need to remember that 1) this is beta and 2) sadly not all things lorewise translate into a playable, fun game.

One thing is lore, one thing is logic: i do not think in real life any employer would like to pay for a mercenary unit he has not chosen to hire just to see it going rogue on his allies. That would totally annoy me if i were the employer -_-

Edited by CyclonerM, 04 February 2015 - 02:50 PM.


#235 TheDeckardCain

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:57 PM

View PostNecromantion, on 04 February 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

Look at how there are members of every faction/unit doing this?

Once again he was calling us faction trolls, which I assume somehow would relate to our play in game and/or swapping factions as we see fit.

Maybe your trolling in game...?

I've seen you guys play... oh and talk, my can you all talk.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:58 PM

View PostCyclonerM, on 04 February 2015 - 02:50 PM, said:

One thing is lore, one thing is logic: i do not think in real life any employer would like to pay for a mercenary unit he has not chosen to hire just to see it going rogue on his allies. That would totally annoy me if i were the employer -_-


Who went rogue on their allies? Do we really have to rehash the whole Gyrok provoking CGB after HE dropped on a CGB planet that he claimed to have permission to do even though in his own words he asked CGB AFTER he had already dropped on it?

Lets really not rehash this ok? Because from Gyroks own fingers he typed that and I believe there are still screenshots of that saved so PLEASE nobody went rogue on allies and even -MS- has been for pushing towards IS only and for maintaining relations between clans when we are CGB however other individuals from other clans from what I heard of last weeks meetings were apparently still open to sorting things out on the battlefield.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 03:01 PM

View PostTheDeckardCain, on 04 February 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

Maybe your trolling in game...?

I've seen you guys play... oh and talk, my can you all talk.


There have been two instances of what you may be able to call trolling that Ive seen since starting to play with -MS- about 3-4 weeks ago.
1) When Gyrok started running his mouth to the point where people got sick of it and if you want to call calling someone out on their idiocy and delusions and making fun of them by pointing out facts trolling then sure

2) When Lego ended up dropping against an old faction group that had done some pretty crappy things to him and some other unit players.


The only excessive talking I see is joking around about salmon and banter between teams at times that is goofy and not pointedly cruel or "trollish"

There has never been any trash talking other than the Gyrok incident (despite me wanting to say that was just pointing out valid facts) although there was one time at the end of a match where a new guy to -MS- said ggclose at the end of a match and got reamed out by multiple people on TS for saying that.

Edited by Necromantion, 04 February 2015 - 03:03 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2015 - 03:01 PM

View PostNecromantion, on 04 February 2015 - 02:20 PM, said:

Faction trolls? Mercs are mercs, they go where the money is best. Now I will say that the merc role could have been implemented better in the game in light of the games history but you need to remember that 1) this is beta and 2) sadly not all things lorewise translate into a playable, fun game.

I would disagree. Wouldn't a good merc unit make more fighting for Kurita than for Ghost Bear? We shall see where MS goes. A little birdie told me they were staying put with GB...
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Posted 04 February 2015 - 03:02 PM

View PostNecromantion, on 04 February 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:

Who went rogue on their allies? Do we really have to rehash the whole Gyrok provoking CGB after HE dropped on a CGB planet that he claimed to have permission to do even though in his own words he asked CGB AFTER he had already dropped on it?

Lets really not rehash this ok? Because from Gyroks own fingers he typed that and I believe there are still screenshots of that saved so PLEASE nobody went rogue on allies and even -MS- has been for pushing towards IS only and for maintaining relations between clans when we are CGB however other individuals from other clans from what I heard of last weeks meetings were apparently still open to sorting things out on the battlefield.

If you are talking about New Caledonia, this all actually started much earlier, around the start of CW...
We shall try to not bring it up again, but just remember that we have not been the ones starting the hostilities.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 03:08 PM

View PostDavers, on 04 February 2015 - 03:01 PM, said:

I would disagree. Wouldn't a good merc unit make more fighting for Kurita than for Ghost Bear? We shall see where MS goes. A little birdie told me they were staying put with GB...
:)


Really?! First I heard we were staying to live it up in GB turf... gotta get that intel department onto that leak... Sylvester come here and find that little birdie!





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