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The Bear-Wolf Conflict
#261
Posted 04 February 2015 - 07:53 PM
#262
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:10 PM
Saxie, on 04 February 2015 - 04:39 PM, said:
Thanks

No problem, I knew some of you were decent, I just anticipated it to be a much lower % overall than what it appears may be the case. Though, it is truly sad that the loud mouths you have are so loud they drown out the sensible people.
@Necro
@Errodien
@Noesis
All of you are on ignore. So, if you are trying to stir things up, you are wasting your text. Just FYI, I am not bothering to read any of your posts...takes more effort than it is worth to click "view anyway" for a troll.
#263
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:19 PM
Apostal Sinclair, on 04 February 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:
This is a false statement... you deleted the thread in which evidence from the personal involved on both the Bear and Wolf side showed that you did not in fact clear it with the leadership, that your actions were condemned, and that your posturing was incorrect.
You deleted that thread within 5hr's of it's creation simply because it provided evidence and opinions that were contrary to the story you were spinning. I think it's about time you got added to my block list, your long tirades across the entire forums of every clan really do little to improve your reputation, or your ego. Nothing seems to be coming out that's worth the read, and I will leave it to actual leadership of Clan Wolf to speak on their behalf.
Exactly & I saw the cached pages the guy saved to show everyone. Sans clearly explained that Gyrok did NOT ask for permission, he basically told Sans he was on the planet already THEN asked if it was OK. Thank goodness for cached pages. He is a liar. The evidence speaks for itself.
#264
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:21 PM
#265
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:21 PM
Gyrok, on 04 February 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:
No problem, I knew some of you were decent, I just anticipated it to be a much lower % overall than what it appears may be the case. Though, it is truly sad that the loud mouths you have are so loud they drown out the sensible people.
@Necro
@Errodien
@Noesis
All of you are on ignore. So, if you are trying to stir things up, you are wasting your text. Just FYI, I am not bothering to read any of your posts...takes more effort than it is worth to click "view anyway" for a troll.
Long ago realised that having a rational conversation with you Gyrok was kind of wishful thinking anyhow.
However, fortunatley the MWO community is not comprised just for your benefit so the dialouge will continue to correct the inaccuracies, projections and fallacies you like to throw around as opposed to attempting to have a sensible dialouge that might help both your own and Clans cause. But I'm possibly determining you have neither the talent or will to do so, this evident that you chose to ignore others as opposed to try and have a dialouge.
Stay in denial if you like, but you are doing nothing but continuing to fuel the contempt for you as an individual with the way you relate to others.
Especially when I have tried to defend interests in a "more" amicable manner that the ongoing hubris and ad-hominem you like to consistantly convey to numerous people. This then the adopted diplomacy method for Clan Wolf Delta which is a "howler" when it comes to relations.

However to conclude: "Meh, no skin off my nose".
Edited by Noesis, 04 February 2015 - 09:33 PM.
#266
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:25 PM
Jaroth Corbett, on 04 February 2015 - 08:19 PM, said:
Exactly & I saw the cached pages the guy saved to show everyone. Sans clearly explained that Gyrok did NOT ask for permission, he basically told Sans he was on the planet already THEN asked if it was OK. Thank goodness for cached pages. He is a liar. The evidence speaks for itself.
As I said, this is a situation where sans can present no proof of what he said, and I have no proof of reality.
I can assure you of this...
The conversation he says happened, never occurred. It was a 3 line conversation, I posted the contents of it earlier. There was no "we are taking this..."
This was "we would like to take this planet back, are you good with that?"
His response..."no quarrel from me." (IIRC, that was the gist of it though the actual wording may have been slightly different).
To which my reply was..."ok, let your guys know..."
Anyone who claims anything differently is flat out lying through their teeth, and that is the truth. Take it as you will.
If I only had teamspeak logs for that conversation. Seriously...the shenanigans would be over before they started.
#267
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:29 PM
Lol, I always enjoy their shameless advertisements on other people's threads.

#268
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:31 PM
I think it's time to move on.
#270
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:39 PM
Carrion Hound, on 04 February 2015 - 08:31 PM, said:
I think it's time to move on.
I agree, some people are being too obtuse it seems to even attempt to find a resolution through diplomacy.
But this is why more aggressive negociations are then occuring.

#271
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:39 PM
#272
Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:45 PM
#273
Posted 04 February 2015 - 09:08 PM

#276
Posted 04 February 2015 - 09:36 PM
I am a true fan of someone who sets their sights on something, then does the work to complete it. I have no doubts that working side by side, Terra will be ours again soon.
I greatly appreciate the kindness shown, it is a mark of a good human, to wage war for things we love or desire, but when we have what we desire, to lay down arms in friendship once more. War is not life, once it is over. But so long as it wages, there is little room for peace. I hope the war between our factions can subside, so that friendship may grow and continue. We will crush the enemies who stand against us, and the might of the Wolf/Ghost Alliance will take what we set our minds on, no matter the cost.
<S> -MS-,
Espoir of the Golden Keshik
#277
Posted 04 February 2015 - 09:50 PM
Espoir, on 04 February 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:
I am a true fan of someone who sets their sights on something, then does the work to complete it. I have no doubts that working side by side, Terra will be ours again soon.
I greatly appreciate the kindness shown, it is a mark of a good human, to wage war for things we love or desire, but when we have what we desire, to lay down arms in friendship once more. War is not life, once it is over. But so long as it wages, there is little room for peace. I hope the war between our factions can subside, so that friendship may grow and continue. We will crush the enemies who stand against us, and the might of the Wolf/Ghost Alliance will take what we set our minds on, no matter the cost.
<S> -MS-,
Espoir of the Golden Keshik
o7
Now here is someone who understands the issues, presents them respectfully and gives meaningfull sentiment and intent to the relationship that "could" exist between CGB and CW.

#278
Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:09 PM
#279
Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:48 PM
Espoir, on 04 February 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:
I am a true fan of someone who sets their sights on something, then does the work to complete it. I have no doubts that working side by side, Terra will be ours again soon.
I greatly appreciate the kindness shown, it is a mark of a good human, to wage war for things we love or desire, but when we have what we desire, to lay down arms in friendship once more. War is not life, once it is over. But so long as it wages, there is little room for peace. I hope the war between our factions can subside, so that friendship may grow and continue. We will crush the enemies who stand against us, and the might of the Wolf/Ghost Alliance will take what we set our minds on, no matter the cost.
<S> -MS-,
Espoir of the Golden Keshik
I kind of like the way things are going now. Let us just maintain the course we've been on for the past week or so.
Asking for an end to hostilities/forging alliances just makes us appear weak and invites more attacks. The clan way is to continue taking the worlds that we want to and ask for nothing.
Edited by Kain Thul, 04 February 2015 - 11:49 PM.
#280
Posted 05 February 2015 - 05:23 AM
Kain Thul, on 04 February 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:
Asking for an end to hostilities/forging alliances just makes us appear weak and invites more attacks. The clan way is to continue taking the worlds that we want to and ask for nothing.
Indeed.. Sadly, this is the truth. No other Clan or merc unit realizes the importance of diplomacy to avoide waste.. Then they shall have what they desire. Fire & blood!
Edited by CyclonerM, 05 February 2015 - 05:23 AM.
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