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[hopterque]

RjBass3, on 12 February 2015 - 07:19 AM, said:

You can learn something from each loss. But when a skilled unit (like NKVA) is always trash talking like the Lords (ggclose, stupid clanners etc,,), it naturally steers us away, because nobody likes loosing to jerks like that.

The Clanner, The.

[Crockdaddy]

ThomasMarik, on 11 February 2015 - 10:41 PM, said:

I am assuming you meant 8 concurrent battles? What kind of fantasy land do you live in where there is enough population to field 8 concurrent battles?

Been seeing Clan Smoke Jag planets with 99+ ... not sure of my maths and such but that may be kinda close.

[Koshirou]

Storyteller, on 12 February 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

For me as Kurita Warrior for almost 23 years now, the path of honor is very important for me. Of course, winning most of the matches can and will make some people become arrogant. But for members of my unit, its strictly forbidden to write a "ggclose" or the like when its been a decisive win for our team. What your group says on teamspeak, is one thing, but offending your opponent after the battle is won, is another. If any member of my chapter disobeyed this rule, please let me know.

For me it's always a pleasure to fight at the Davion front. Not only because of our recent victories, but because I prefer to fight our old archenemy.

I think this is the first post in this thread I, as a CW noob, can wholeheartedly agree with.

[Crockdaddy]

Shimmering Sword, on 12 February 2015 - 01:22 AM, said:

You're talking to the mercs with me, none of that observed in our stable yet. We discus where the fun is, and which factions are deserving and appreciative of help, and get to it. We thought that Kurita was interested in holding their borders, instead we found a divided council that took our help and turned it into a vacation to stomp on an underpopulated Davion. Kurita wasted our efforts. I hope those Kurita units who liked the Star League idea don't suffer too badly, Davion wont be weak forever.

More BS. You said you came to talk, but in truth you just threatened. Besides no one can know where a unit is actually fighting as the queue are not transparent. I know I fought a crap load of battles on the clan front yet it didn't seem to matter. BTW, out of the the MERC units whom sent threats you were the most respectful and diplomatic.

[Tasker]

RjBass3, on 12 February 2015 - 07:19 AM, said:

it naturally steers us away, because nobody likes loosing to jerks like that.

You literally report people for saying "die clanner."

lol

[poopenshire]

07

See you on the battlefield.

[Gas Guzzler]

It sounds like it is more important to the nSL that Davion stops getting wrecked and that Steiner can fight the clans without worrying about Marik aggressors.

The whole "but then we won't defend you guys" sounds more like leverage to aid your cause to me.

This may be part of the reason the council rejected it. That and the fact that mercs play such a large role in it when most of them really just care about putting tags all over the IS.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 12 February 2015 - 08:58 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

MischiefSC, on 12 February 2015 - 12:49 AM, said:

You don't like how pugs are dropping on your border? Invite us to your TS, coordinate with us and ensure we're doing it how you like. That never came up though, unless we left our current faction and joined Kurita.

This is actually false. All are welcome to join our TS. If a group of us drop with a couple IS pugs we always tell them the address and tell them to join us. They usually don't.


In regards to the rest of the post, I have mentioned a couple reasons why it may have been rejected by the council in a post above. We aren't the a-holes you are making us out to be, but we also don't like how this league has been forming up, and how many involved have hidden agendas.

Again, I'm not an officer/ambassador of any kind, and my opinions are my own.

[hopterque]

Well, I mean, I'm definitely the ******* they're making me out to be.

[RjBass3]

Tasker, on 12 February 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

You literally report people for saying "die clanner."

lol

I do? News to me. Now if somebody is acting like a complete d-bag, then ya, reported. Calling me a clanner isn't something I would report. It's cheap, classless and immature when combined with all the other garbage some members say (much like Lords), but not report worthy.

[RjBass3]

Gas Guzzler, on 12 February 2015 - 09:12 AM, said:

This is actually false. All are welcome to join our TS. If a group of us drop with a couple IS pugs we always tell them the address and tell them to join us. They usually don't.

What unit are you with? That could have a lot to do with it. I'm not saying it's you, but pugs don't like to group up with units that they consider to be in bad taste.

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

There is nothing you can do to us that you have not already done. Your capitulation will be swift. You will be made part of the Greater Kurita Co-Prosperity Sphere.

[pwnface]

Koshirou, on 12 February 2015 - 02:05 AM, said:

Okay, I'm quite new to CW after a long MWO hiatus. I have some questions for the Kurita leadership (?) as well as for others. Can someone please explain to me:

1. What is this new Star League, what would "joining it" mean and why is it a bad thing Kurita doesn't?

2. Why is Kurita being given flak for fighting Davion when Marik has taken many worlds from Davion and Steiner, and has taken a chunk from Kurita territory as well?

3. OTOH, should Kurita not rather close the Marik wormhole and ease up on Davion? Was the idea that it would somehow be possible to establish a "moving island" so that Marik could eventually start attacking Clan worlds based on anything other than a glitch and wishful thinking?

4. Why cannot players from other IS houses just help against the clans by defending worlds and if they do so, why would Kurita not invite them to TS?

1) The nSL is an attempt to unite IS houses to defend against clan invaders. While this is a nice idea, it restricts the ability for individual member houses to attack another IS house. Beyond the multiple veiled threats, DCMS has elected that we should be able to decide for ourselves where and when we want to focus our efforts. Whether there will be peace between Davion and Kurita should only be determined by the two houses involved.

2) The nSL is just forming up now and prior to it both Marik and Liao were feasting on Davion as well. Perhaps other houses have sated their hunger but we don't believe Kurita should be mandated to stop by anyone else.

3) The Marik wormhole experiment was just that, an experiment. Nobody had any idea how the attack algorithm worked and we thought it would be worthwhile to explore the possibility of allowing the Marik's to travel to the clan front. This has been managed so far by a great deal of trust and respect between the DCMS and FWLM. It seems fairly certain now that the algorithm will not allow Marik to send an expeditionary force through Kurita space to the clan front. Allowing Marik to tunnel completely through our faction was never part of the plan and with the recent event of unpredictable MS joining Marik, the DCMS has elected to try to close off the wormhole to mitigate any possible damage from an additional front. We thoroughly appreciate the patience and support we've received from the Marik Command structure.

4) Pugs are pugs, typically they don't want to use teamspeak or join a new one. Beyond that, it isn't always our daily focus to pushing back clans. For example, it is currently our primary objective to close the wormhole before pushing back the clan front.

[Lord DeicideRavenRose]

RjBass3, on 12 February 2015 - 09:36 AM, said:

I do? News to me. Now if somebody is acting like a complete d-bag, then ya, reported. Calling me a clanner isn't something I would report. It's cheap, classless and immature when combined with all the other garbage some members say (much like Lords), but not report worthy.

Silence, Fedclan pigrat - or taste my SPLs! Photons folded over 10,000 times every femtosecond! You like? Now you will pay. . .

[Conreg]

House Kurita debated our response to the nSL very thoroughly. The conclusion of those talks is reflected in Lord Ikka's OP. The true sense of what anyone should think or feel on this matter, should be derived from the OP exclusively.

Speaking from a position of being friends with people across many factions, I would lament any decision that anyone in Marik space or the nSL would make based on entanglements in this thread from out of control Rpeen. <--(coined a new phrase)

The House Kurita council members, and our allied faction loyalists and mercs will stand united.

With respect,

<B>

[Scoops Kerensky]

As Conreg says though, this was a thoroughly debated topic in the council and our decision wasn't made lightly. We value our friendship with Marik and hope it will continue past this as we attempt to close the wormhole and work to support each other.

Edited by Socop, 12 February 2015 - 10:17 AM.

[Crockdaddy]

I should add as well. ACES Shimmering Sword was very upfront with me which I communicated back to HK about the formation of an inner sphere style MERC coalition and what they expected from HK. While it left a bad taste in my mouth at the time, ACES were diplomatic about it. So when I talk about MERCs being as$hats ... I am most certainly NOT referring to ACES. We have a good deal of respect for this unit even if at this time our agenda is a bit different from their agenda.

[paxmortis]

Storyteller, on 12 February 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

For me as Kurita Warrior for almost 23 years now, the path of honor is very important for me. Of course, winning most of the matches can and will make some people become arrogant. But for members of my unit, its strictly forbidden to write a "ggclose" or the like when its been a decisive win for our team. What your group says on teamspeak, is one thing, but offending your opponent after the battle is won, is another. If any member of my chapter disobeyed this rule, please let me know.

For me it's always a pleasure to fight at the Davion front. Not only because of our recent victories, but because I prefer to fight our old archenemy.

Hai Tai-sa,

as good DCMS soldiers and samurais we follow the way of bushido.

Quote

Righteousness (義 gi?)
Courage (勇 yū?)
Benevolence (仁 jin?)
Respect (礼 rei?)
Sincerity (誠 makoto?)
Honour (名誉 meiyo?)
Loyalty (忠義 chūgi?)

If the high council will not be a part of the nSL, we will also not a part of it.

[Crockdaddy]

I do wish this thread hadn't gotten so trashed. I think we could have had a useful discussion here.

Edited by CrockdaddyAoD, 12 February 2015 - 10:32 AM.

[The Droid]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 12 February 2015 - 10:24 AM, said:

I should add as well. ACES Shimmering Sword was very upfront with me which I communicated back to HK about the formation of an inner sphere style MERC coalition and what they expected from HK. While it left a bad taste in my mouth at the time, ACES were diplomatic about it. So when I talk about MERCs being as$hats ... I am most certainly NOT referring to ACES. We have a good deal of respect for this unit even if at this time our agenda is a bit different from their agenda.

Yeah while I dislike Merc-Opec not all of their members are necessarily bad, and not all mercs are part of/like Merc-Opec.