Sidra, on 17 July 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:
Hmm true, I guess with me I try to see the original meanings in all things I know about and not what destroyed them, though I can see some things through that manner of "why did you have to go and ruin that -.-" like "Hope and change" or "yes you can" I feel my stomach twist hearing someone say those lines XD
Or "Read my lips, no new taxes"
LakeDaemon, on 18 July 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:
iirc, the acronym "nazi" stands for "national socialist..." which then became fascism. Most "socialist revolutions" wound up as a fascist regimes of some kind.
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei to be precise. National Socialist German Workers' Party in English. The
wiki article has a blurb as to how the pronunciation worked into Nazi.
As far as the name =/= the message, it's simple marketing. Look at the various "Democratic Republic of's". Nothing Democratic about how they choose leaders and it's certainly not a republic either. But people buy packaging, not content, so....
LakeDaemon, on 17 July 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:
Nice. While the symbol itself is ancient, it's use here is purely to glorify a fantasy take on nazi armor. Yes, I can appreciate the fascination with WWII history and admiration for german WWII hardware, and even generals and u-boat commanders etc.. who were legendary... but... the symbol used here in this context encompasses the crimes of Nazi's. Its a symbol of fear, facism, oppression, murder, and inhumanity on a scale only matched by the Stalinest regime. There is a reason why its banned in many countries.. because rightist factions use it in the context of hate... not for peace as it was used in the ancient past. Perception of a symbol is more relevant than the symbol itself. Regardless of what you or anyone knows its history to be, to millions of living people (and millions more who died) around the world its the symbol of hate.. period.
I dare you to walk into a synagogue and wave it around and try to tell them its a symbol of peace. They will listen and nod perhaps but they know youre an insensitive instigator for doing it. Symbol of peace? perhaps.. but its not to the last 3 generations of people around the world.
Agreed
Edit - is it possible to get in trouble for going offtopic on an offtopic post?
Edited by Jiri Starrider, 18 July 2012 - 08:17 AM.