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[Crockdaddy]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

which is a perfect tradeoff. Now it's no longer the all purpose 30 pp-fld, all day every day bat it was.

Still think making a mech that packs a whopping ONE ERPPC into a mech that boats them is silly, but it's heck of a lot more balanced this time at least.

Kudos.


Uh, no?

F2P game, you know all things are subject to change, sorry bro. Lots of us are going to be moving modules to other chassis.

I wasn't serious about the refund Bishop. I suppose i should put in "sarcasm" tags lol. I expect changes all the time having been here since closed beta.

[Dulahan]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 12 February 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

I know it is premature, but with the velocity increase I feel like the 9S is now a better sniper weapon than before. I didn't like them at long range, I preferred under 500 when using them. +30% velocity could be very sweet.

Yeah, anyone who thinks the 9S is worse now was the sort boating 3 and thinking everyone did that, not the sort (like me and many others) who only used two on the shoulder mounts and had something else in the arm (LL, LPL, ML, whatever). The CW implications of this just made it better for exactly that reason. High speed, long range AC20.

EDIT: The heat change isn't going to affect me much, since I rarely overheated or came close. Hit and run, not blast blast blast.

Edited by Dulahan, 12 February 2015 - 02:26 PM.

[Big Tin Man]

The 9S maybe got hit a little too hard with the nerf, we'll see. It needed a nerf, but this may be a little too far.

And is lolcust heat generation even an issue with big weapons? You have 10 heatsinks for one PPC or LPL.

[kapusta11]

Wow, just WOW.

Ah well now I can sell 9S, remind me to never buy a mech because it has good quirks.

Edited by kapusta11, 12 February 2015 - 02:35 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Bigbacon, on 12 February 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

6MLs

still ends up 18 heat per alpha.... funnily enough, the heat that Mlasers SHOULD generate in the first place.

Probably see more SPLs, though.

[Big Tin Man]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 12 February 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

I agree with you, I just will miss the WUB WUB WUB WUB sound. I am fine with LL quirks otherwise. I use the LL quirks in many other mechs.

This game needs more IS wub. Hell, they were talking about how to make pulses viable again and the did. Now they are killing them.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dulahan, on 12 February 2015 - 02:25 PM, said:

Yeah, anyone who thinks the 9S is worse now was the sort boating 3 and thinking everyone did that, not the sort (like me and many others) who only used two on the shoulder mounts and had something else in the arm (LL, LPL, ML, whatever). The CW implications of this just made it better for exactly that reason. High speed, long range AC20.

EDIT: The heat change isn't going to affect me much, since I rarely overheated or came close. Hit and run, not blast blast blast.

Not really. Is a reason so many teams ran the 3. Because with the heat, even at PBR, on Sulfur, they could volley away. Now? Good for Long Range, but nowhere near as good up close.

As it should be.

[BARBAR0SSA]

6k I'd of given it that extra bit just to put it on par with clan erLLs, however it can load erLLs for 760M clan erLLs so, as so many people have said "Use your advantage, range"

You can mount 4 LLs on the thing for 36 Dmg in faster burn time and range than a cERML, so it's not exactly killing the mech, could probably Alpha it on Boreal and stay fairly cold. Is it 3 LLs and then GH kicks in on LLs or 2

Edited by shad0w4life, 12 February 2015 - 02:30 PM.

[Nori Silverrage]

Brody319, on 12 February 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

Locust 1E's quirks holy ****.

25% less heat general energy quirks?!
thats 25% less PPC heat, LPL heat,

You are funny. Try fitting a 7 ton weapon in a mech with 6.14t available (that includes endo and FF). I suppose you could downgrade the engine to a xl180 and get a whole 6.64t available. If you strip armor you could fit one!

Anyway, very nice first pass I think. The 9S is looking to be a good place now. I really like the extra structure for the locusts and the 1E having general perks as opposed to specific is nice.

The orion got some nice buffs, though I'm confused about the change to Gauss on the protector? A big grid iron? Could work. My bro hates guass though so yeah he won't like it.

[Torgun]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

yeah.....it's a sneak peak, not a reveal

Frankly seeing how often they've left the Victor out in the cold, I would not be surprised if it happens again. So can anyone from PGI confirm if there will actually be any quirks for the Victors on the 17th?

[Navid A1]

OMG...yes... TDR-9S got what it deserved...!
and WVR too....yes...yes..!


sad thing is that i cant abuse the hell out of the thunderthug9s massive super ppcs anymore. ppc spamming was so much fun.

[Greenjulius]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

I just can't decide between two LPL or 1 LPL and 2 MPL with my Arrow.


yeah.....it's a sneak peak, not a reveal

Take out 2xLPL, 6xMG with a XL235 and as many DHS as you can pack in. This thing is gonna be a c-bill printing machine. I was already doing 800-1000+ damage rounds without much effort last night.

I am so glad I bought this thing.

And to those surprised by the shift from Large Pulse Laser to Large Laser on the Wolverine and RVN-2X?

They did the SAME DAMN THING to the Centurion AL. It ticked me off.

[Aethon]

Sean Lang, on 12 February 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

ON1-Protector
Specialty
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +16
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +16
Guass Rifle Cooldown +10%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldwon +10%
Laser Duration -15%
Energy Weapon Range +15%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen -15%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%

...and my Protector gets mothballed. Thanks, PGI.

[Bloodweaver]

Highlanders getting shafted again, I see

[nehebkau]

Guess there is really no point in playing IS. Time to switch to clans and fight other clans -- PGI this isn't very good.

[Bishop Steiner]

Greenjulius, on 12 February 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

Take out 2xLPL, 6xMG with a XL235 and as many DHS as you can pack in. This thing is gonna be a c-bill printing machine. I was already doing 800-1000+ damage rounds without much effort last night.

I am so glad I bought this thing.

And to those surprised by the shift from Large Pulse Laser to Large Laser on the Wolverine and RVN-2X?

They did the SAME DAMN THING to the Centurion AL. It ticked me off.

True. I will be more "upset" if the 7K doesn't end up with LPL buffs, since it packs an LPL stock. These other mechs never did

[Nori Silverrage]

I'm ok with the Wuberine changes. I mean the LPLs on it were crazy (fun). The LLAS will actually be a nifty change. With range module you can hit over 600m for full damage. Should be able to fire them quite a few times before heat becomes a issue. Yeah I think it'll work out fine. Plus this way, larger engine and 4 LLAS instead of smaller engine and 3 LPLs.

[Kodyn]

Looks like the 5K is going to be the most fun QKD now...naturally that'd be the first one I sold after I got it basic for my 4G.

Never sell your mechs kids, lest ye end up like me, constantly rebuying them every other month when they change them.

[Fate 6]

Brody319, on 12 February 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

they doubled the amount of structure bonus and gave it 50% more armor.

but yea It can mount like one PPC. but thats not bad, my SPL build will be near the Firestarter Level.

Funny they buffed this one but smashed the SPL Locust. Now we'll just see 6SPL instead of 5. Just what we needed...

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

True. I will be more "upset" if the 7K doesn't end up with LPL buffs, since it packs an LPL stock. These other mechs never did

Does it need to?

It's a decent platform for a "more effective Centurion brawer with JJs". I'm not saying that is optimal or great, but what they are currently isn't bad, but whatever I guess.