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[PaintedWolf]

America is one of the youngest nations, but also one of the most powerful. It Lords over other nations, 100+ military bases in 50+ nations.

Does a young nation really think it can handle this much power and responsibility? Other nations have more experience, for hundreds, sometimes thousands of years. Why does the United States Think it knows better? Many other nations, far more mature, thousands of years old, think the United States is egotistical and arrogant to tell them what to do. To act like it is in charge. Is there any reason to argue against this?

To them, America is like a baby, grown ten feet tall and acting ALL POWERFUL. Even if the US has such power, what gives it the right? Or do they just use their raw power plays to take whatever they feel like? They are Bigger, so the United States takes w\hat it wants!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Huey

Edited by PaintedWolf, 16 February 2015 - 11:05 AM.

[PaintedWolf]

U.S. President Bill Clinton in a 1993 conversation cited his similarities to Baby Huey: "I'm a lot like Baby Huey. I'm fat. I'm ugly. But if you push me down, I keep coming back."^[3]

[Heffay]

Is this in reference to anything in particular, or just America bashing?

[Tarzilman]

Look what's happening in the Ukraine.
Should be enough for this thread to be eligible.

[Mystere]

Rome eventually fell ...

[PaintedWolf]

Mystere, on 14 February 2015 - 11:14 PM, said:

Rome eventually fell ...

Great. Then came the Dark Ages.. You can't win either way.

[HlynkaCG]

@OP

How are we defining "Young" in this case? Aside from a brief but tragic episode in the mid 1800s the US has existed in it's current form with it's current Government for 230 years or so, which is a good deal longer than most.

Tarzilman, on 14 February 2015 - 11:12 PM, said:

Look what's happening in the Ukraine.
Should be enough for this thread to be eligible.

Huh?

[PaintedWolf]

Whatever. English is derived from German so we are all speaking German in a way. Okay, American a country what 200 years old? Tells countries thousands of years old what do do?

[HlynkaCG]

GamerGirlGundam, on 14 February 2015 - 11:23 PM, said:

well if it wasnt for america we would all be speaking german or japanese right now, not the good kind either

Or Russian, which honestly wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the Soviet's whole slavery and oppression thing.

Edited by HlynkaCG, 14 February 2015 - 11:35 PM.

[PaintedWolf]

HlynkaCG, on 14 February 2015 - 11:22 PM, said:

@OP

How are we defining "Young" in this case? Aside from a brief but tragic episode in the mid 1800s the US has existed in it's current form with it's current Government for 230 years or so, which is a good deal longer than most.



Huh?

China and India are thousands of years old. "In current form" -- apparently the Civil War and New Deal don't count. Whatever. America is bigger. It Takes what it Wants. America is a Big Young Buff Male and Other nations are Smaller Females and America takes these Older Weaker Females when it wants, planting military bases and interests in them.

[Tarzilman]

HlynkaCG, on 14 February 2015 - 11:34 PM, said:

(...) the Soviet's whole slavery and oppression thing.

Huh?

[Mystere]

PaintedWolf, on 14 February 2015 - 11:19 PM, said:

Great. Then came the Dark Ages.. You can't win either way.

Chaos means opportunity.

[PaintedWolf]

We Plant our Seed of 100+ military bases in 50+ nations by force, cause they are weaker and smaller- they have to take it. Is that what you are saying? I myself, as a person who believes in the United States Empire, says the opposite, because I think the opposite would be World War 3 among Great Powers. Nuclear-freakin'-war.

But what you say ain't inspiring so give smarter answers. I ask people, "What has prevented Worldn War 3, did all rulers turn nice, or does the power of the United States, which has 150 bases in 52 nations scare the heck out of hem?"

Only the super-ultimate United States Enpire prevent WW#. Yet these idiots cannot even make a good argument.

Do you really think all the Dictators who rule the world turned nice, or do you think the Super-Power of the USA scares the heck out of them?

Edited by PaintedWolf, 14 February 2015 - 11:54 PM.

[PaintedWolf]

Make no mistake, the *ONLY* thing uniting our enemies is hatred for the United States. If we fell, Russia, China, Pakistan, India, maybe even Europe, would enter into nuclear war.

Edited by PaintedWolf, 14 February 2015 - 11:50 PM.

[HlynkaCG]

PaintedWolf, on 14 February 2015 - 11:34 PM, said:

China and India are thousands of years old. "In current form" -- apparently the Civil War and New Deal don't count. Whatever. America is bigger. It Takes what it Wants. America is a Big Young Buff Male and Other nations are Smaller Females and America takes these Older Weaker Females when it wants, planting military bases and interests in them.

China and India have only existed in thier current forms since the 1940s. India was not a unified nation/culture until the Brits took over and did not become independent until 1947. and China had a rather bloody civil war that resulted in old China being reduced to a few isolated cities and an 1 sizable island while a new "People's Republic of China" took everything else.

ETA:
The US's Civil War / Southern Secession would be that "tragic episode" in the mid 1800s that I alluded to.

The New Deal doesn't count because there was no revolution or change in government. FDR won an election and congress passed some new laws.

Edited by HlynkaCG, 14 February 2015 - 11:53 PM.

[HlynkaCG]

Tarzilman, on 14 February 2015 - 11:37 PM, said:

Huh?

Know your history.

[PaintedWolf]

HlynkaCG, on 14 February 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

China and India have only existed in thier current forms since the 1940s. India was not a unified nation/culture until the Brits took over and did not become independent until 1947. and China had a rather bloody civil war that resulted in old China being reduced to a few isolated cities and an 1 sizable island while a new "People's Republic of China" took everything else.

ETA:
The US's Civil War / Southern Secession would be that "tragic episode" in the mid 1800s that I alluded to.

The New Deal doesn't count because there was no revolution or change in government. FDR won an election and congress passed some new laws.

We are the youngest nation, yet we rule all. And we HAVE to, or world war 3 happens, nukes fly, and we all die.

Edited by PaintedWolf, 15 February 2015 - 12:01 AM.

[HlynkaCG]

How do you figure?

Sorry bud, but I think GundamGirl's got this one pegged.

[PaintedWolf]

India and Pakistan are about ready to Nuke each other over the Kashmir, a largely, worthless piece of rock. Only the US- THE YOUNGEST NATION=prevents this. How fair is that?

There are many more situations like this the United States has to deal with, where if we fail, maybe billions die. wtf? You really put a teenager in charge of that? Messed up man super ,messed up. How 'bout we give you the finger and you give us our phone call?

we will do it BECAUSE we are young. You may be ready to die because you are so old, but we are not. But we will remember this.

[PaintedWolf]

HlynkaCG, on 15 February 2015 - 12:04 AM, said:

How do you figure?

Sorry bud, but I think GundamGirl's got this one pegged.

"because we can intercept ICBMs, warheads count"


We can "intercept" ICBMs? [Redacted]

We do not have the tech to "intercept ICBMs". You are going to get us ALL KILLED!

Edited by GM Patience, 17 February 2015 - 03:41 PM.