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[pwnface]

Evilsmirk, on 25 February 2015 - 11:08 PM, said:

I personally regret that the actions of a temporary merc unit in the original wormhole was escalated by words posted in these forums. Yes we fell for the bait and let the trolls with HK tags get to us emotionally so the whole Athenery thing came to be. And yes you closed the wormhole, despite our late efforts t prevent it. And earned some leverage to gloat in the process. Keid was at 20% the first go round, Reigning that in and preventing it from going higher lends creadance to what you ae claiming here. However. some chose not to believe Marik couldn't do anything about the previously mentioned merc unit's actions. I ask that if Keid is attacked (again) or taken, you do Marik the courtesy of not claiming the very same thing.

You are right, we can't control the actions of rogue Merc units that may join House Kurita with the intent to cause drama. If a group were to do this, they would be attacking Marik without the support of the DCMS. We would not defend any attempts to retake any worlds that they managed to take on their own.

The MS incident with the wormhole made it apparent that we had a potential weakness that Marik could not control. We held no ill will toward Marik during that time because MS was an uncontrollable force, closing the wormhole at this point was a matter of removing this possible weakness. If Marik were able to close our attack lane we would not be opposed to that either.

[bobF]

pwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

If certain players have poor forum etiquette or are upsetting people it is the price we must pay for freedom of speech...

...If the only reason we are fighting is because someone said something on the internet that was upsetting, that is quite silly.

This right here is why I remain a shameless fanboy of Kurita these days. They talk the talk, then walk the walk.

*bows 68.5°*

[multisoul]

to be honest, those who play CW know who is the greatest force in CW. The most fearsome, efficient and consistent:
Mercenaries
To be honest it is for mercenaries the right thing to do - changing faction in order to get the basic tier bonuses from those factions. they would probably rather burn the faction flag they get lol , but its part of the rewards.
So when this migration is over, remember what cool team we at Marik are and that many of us will gladly fill the role you have in your unit and play as a team.
Having you convinced about the true successor of the Star League we are waiting for you.

And a message to the Kurita population:
Dig in your gold, because a raid is approaching.

ready for metal detector sat launch

[Molossian Dog]

bobF, on 26 February 2015 - 02:02 AM, said:

... They talk the talk, then walk the walk...

So "if you hit back, you´re the evil guy and we are gonna blame you for us loosing Terra!" is now walking the walk?

Oh Bobbie...
If this thread was lacking one thing, then your peculiar brand of wisdom.

Edited by Molossian Dog, 26 February 2015 - 05:13 AM.

[Crockdaddy]

Molossian Dog, on 26 February 2015 - 05:11 AM, said:

So "if you hit back, you´re the evil guy and we are gonna blame you for us loosing Terra!" is now walking the walk?

Oh Bobbie...
If this thread was lacking one thing, then your peculiar brand of wisdom.

Speaking of useless forum trolls.

[Brew E]

Molossian Dog, on 25 February 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

You know what your post eludes to?


"Oh ****. Too much heat. Better act like the bigger man. (while still thumbing our noses at Marik) Even if it fails, we can blame Marik for Kurita loosing Terra"



Ha ha ha ha

I think you nailed it right there lol

[Mycrus]

Molossian Dog, on 26 February 2015 - 05:11 AM, said:

So "if you hit back, you´re the evil guy and we are gonna blame you for us loosing Terra!" is now walking the walk?

Oh Bobbie...
If this thread was lacking one thing, then your peculiar brand of wisdom.

Nope, bob was talking about freedom of troll speech

[Molossian Dog]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 26 February 2015 - 05:38 AM, said:

Speaking of useless forum trolls.

You sound a bit annoyed, man. How could that possibly be?

Ha ha ha ha?

Edited by Molossian Dog, 26 February 2015 - 07:22 AM.

[Estonniel]

Simple, Defend your worlds on the North end of Terra. even if Marik takes the space around it, Set a Prime House unit on guard same for Marik.
Ones BoS is done in FRR space and if things do get out of hand. we will see what the future brings. Strong Communication will be required to avoid something nasty. unless thats called for .

[BIoB]

The time for talk has passed.

Let us now duke it out until the bitter end (of beta) like the two honourable houses we say we are.

Let us go back to the times (early beta) where planets were hard fought and hard won. No more 12mans dropping against pugs and claiming it as legitimate progression.

More talk will only allow certain minorities from within both factions to shout each other down with needless and childish trolling.


Climb into your mechs once more gentlemen and prepare for glorious battle

[Dauphni]

Elude

Etymology

From Latin ēlūdō (“evade, elude”), from ē (“out of”), short form of ex, + lūdō (“play; trick”).
Pronunciation

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Verb

elude (third-person singular simple present eludes, present participle eluding, simple past and past participle eluded)

• (transitive) To evade, or escape from someone or something, especially by using cunning or skill.
  
  • 1748. David Hume. Enquiries concerning the human understanding and concerning the principles of moral. London: Oxford University Press, 1973. § 26. Thus the observation of human blindness and weakness is the result of all philosophy, and meets us at every turn, in spite of our endeavours to elude or avoid it.
• (transitive) To shake off a pursuer; to give someone the slip.
  
  • 
    2012 December 29, Paul Doyle, “Arsenal's Theo Walcott hits hat-trick in thrilling victory over Newcastle”, The Guardian: Podolski gave Walcott a chance to further embellish Arsenal's first-half performance when he eluded James Perch and slipped the ball through to the striker.
• (transitive) To escape understanding of; to be incomprehensible to.

Allude

Etymology

From Middle French alluder, from Latin alludere (“to play with or allude”), from ad + ludere (“to play”).
Pronunciation

• IPA^(key): /əˈluːd/

Verb

allude (third-person singular simple present alludes, present participle alluding, simple past and past participle alluded)

• (intransitive) To refer to something indirectly or by suggestion.
  
  • 1597, Richard ******, Of the Laws of Ecclesiastical Polity, Book V, Chapter xxix.3, 1841 ed., page 523: These speeches . . . do seem to allude unto such ministerial garments as were then in use.
    
  • 1846, George Luxford, Edward Newman, The Phytologist: a popular botanical miscellany: Volume 2, Part 2, page 474 It was aptly said by Newton that "whatever is not deduced from facts must be regarded as hypothesis," but hypothesis appears to us a title too honourable for the crude guessings to which we allude.
    
  • 
    2012 January 1, Robert L. Dorit, “Rereading Darwin”, American Scientist, volume 100, number 1, page 23:  We live our lives in three dimensions for our threescore and ten allotted years. Yet every branch of contemporary science, from statistics to cosmology, alludes to processes that operate on scales outside of human experience: the millisecond and the nanometer, the eon and the light-year.

[Noaceik]

I am for cooler heads at this time. Kurita leadership has started to realize how bad such a war would be. Also with a reset to happen before to long, it would be foolish to increase the tensions between our factions. I know the value of forgiveness and burying the hatchet. I don't represent all Marik though, only the Silverhawks who are the smallest active unit of the Marik Loyalists.

Yet, if war does come we will fight with our fellow units. Our loyalty is to the FWLM. God speed Kurita, I only count for 1 vote.

[Crockdaddy]

Irish BoB, on 26 February 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

The time for talk has passed.

Let us now duke it out until the bitter end (of beta) like the two honourable houses we say we are.

Let us go back to the times (early beta) where planets were hard fought and hard won. No more 12mans dropping against pugs and claiming it as legitimate progression.

More talk will only allow certain minorities from within both factions to shout each other down with needless and childish trolling.


Climb into your mechs once more gentlemen and prepare for glorious battle

Irish Bob, if we want honorable combat and everyone involved is pretty much ok with Kurita ignoring the clans I am up for this and would support it internally within HK. I think 12 v 12 would be great fun and I'd like to get it out of the way between Kurta and Marik while it is still Beta. To be honest unless something dramatically changes it isn't like CGB is going to be slowed down anytime soon anyway.

I think much of the issue is there is no lane for attack for Marik, Davion, Liao into the clans. So the only way to vent is for the normal rivalries. Since HK is loud on the forums and somewhat in game (depending on the night and unit) it is natural for rivalries to stress to a war or at least fights.

So if Marik High Command wants to organize something then lets talk. I'd prefer to fight against groups and not pugs all the time. While I enjoy the Cbills I don't "get off" on pug stomps. Plus this pointless PvP forum warrior is silly. I want funny NKVA memes again poking fun at our enemies. Not angry rants by our opponents / HK units.

Noaceik, on 26 February 2015 - 07:49 AM, said:

I am for cooler heads at this time. Kurita leadership has started to realize how bad such a war would be. Also with a reset to happen before to long, it would be foolish to increase the tensions between our factions. I know the value of forgiveness and burying the hatchet. I don't represent all Marik though, only the Silverhawks who are the smallest active unit of the Marik Loyalists.

Yet, if war does come we will fight with our fellow units. Our loyalty is to the FWLM. God speed Kurita, I only count for 1 vote.

I'd rather we get a fight out of our system now while it is closed beta. Maybe we might understand each other better if we get this out of the way. Maybe we fight for a week? Make some kind of formal arrangement. Once the fight is done (we agree on terms ahead of time) then we all focus on the clans where much of HK would like to be (not all).

[Kane Wrath]

When you look at the CW map and feel good about being part of CGB at the time when the push to Terra started, now those were some good fights even though I was a noob at the time.

EDIT: Just took a closer look -MS- controls most of the planets on the front of the CGB border so that may explain a few things.

Edited by Kane Wrath, 26 February 2015 - 08:07 AM.

[RayRazor]

pwnface, on 25 February 2015 - 05:06 PM, said:

• Part of the DCMS is eager for a fight with Marik but we do realize that would come at the cost of losing Terra.

• We are leaving this decision up to the "Star League" nation.

• Seeing as how both CGB and CSJ can provide more challenging fights than Marik or Davion, this IS our way of looking for "good battles".

First point is the only truth you've posted here.... Fact is, you want Marik to engage Kurtian space because you and your faction won't take the 'blame' for starting the war... that is 'cowardly'... from all the posts I've read coming from your faction and you... you'd think you'd already won the war without a big stompy robot having set foot on the battlefield yet...

Second point just reinforces what I just posted above...

Your third point, very humorous thx for that, if to be believed... one would think you'd be winning as much as your losing off your northern border fights with clans... clearly this isn't the case so you and your faction's perception of 'good fights' is getting your backside handed to you every night? As fast as your losing territory you might want to re-think that point and that perception...

No matter what though... you and your other faction mates do provide much comedic material with your posts, carry on...

[pwnface]

RayRazor, on 26 February 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

Your third point, very humorous thx for that, if to be believed... one would think you'd be winning as much as your losing off your northern border fights with clans... clearly this isn't the case so you and your faction's perception of 'good fights' is getting your backside handed to you every night? As fast as your losing territory you might want to re-think that point and that perception...

Clearly you have no idea how IS vs Clan CW mechanics work. Additionally, since letting off of Davion we've retaken one planet from CSJ each ceasefire without losing our own. We can and do win against clans when we focus but it is unrealistic to try to win against CSJ, CGB, and Davion at the same time, no faction has the numbers to do that.

Regarding tougher fights, I've yet to lose to a Marik team and I sincerely doubt there is any group in Marik capable of fielding a 12 man as tough as MS or JGx. What unit is the most competitive out of Marik? Please don't give me some crap about t2 pugging because that is a joke that will never work against us.

Edited by pwnface, 26 February 2015 - 09:13 AM.

[pwnface]

RayRazor, on 26 February 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

First point is the only truth you've posted here.... Fact is, you want Marik to engage Kurtian space because you and your faction won't take the 'blame' for starting the war... that is 'cowardly'... from all the posts I've read coming from your faction and you... you'd think you'd already won the war without a big stompy robot having set foot on the battlefield yet...

Several Marik pilots have complained that HK never fights clans when in fact we fight clans on a daily basis. Sometimes they are our primary focus, as they are now, and sometimes we secure a Davion planet first. We are just pointing out that if Marik and Kurita go to war we will not fight the clans any longer. If Marik and Kurita go to war how long will it be until we hear, "why don't you fight the clans"?

Edited by pwnface, 26 February 2015 - 09:11 AM.

[Roadbeer]

pwnface, on 26 February 2015 - 08:56 AM, said:

Regarding tougher fights, I've yet to lose to a Marik team and I sincerely doubt there is any group in Marik capable of fielding a 12 man as tough as MS or JGx. What unit is the most competitive out of Marik?

**** or get off the pot.

Attack us or STFU, because all your doing is chest thumping about how great you are, based off of one night.

[stratagos]

Why don't you fight the clans, pwnface?

[Molossian Dog]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 26 February 2015 - 07:54 AM, said:

Irish Bob, if we want honorable combat and everyone involved is pretty much ok with Kurita ignoring the clans I am up for this and would support it internally within HK...).

Told you guys it is all about the blame game.

Kurita cannot stop the clans so it is looking for excuses.

I doubt most of them even meant this to be a sincere "proposal". It is just something for later, because if there is anything else than shitpost highscores the Dracs are fighting for then it is the moral high ground.