251 replies to this topic

[Molossian Dog]

L2T mate.

[Der Hesse]

Never ever dare to say again Kurita did weaken the Is defense...like rly...never do it again!

[Koshirou]

Irish BoB, on 02 March 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

The simple fact is Marik cannot lose, no matter what you do Kurita you will lose planets rapidly. You may push into marik space in the best case scenario but you will lose 3 planets per cycle on your other fronts if you commit to that goal

Don't care.

[Crockdaddy]

Molossian Dog, on 02 March 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

L2T mate.

Sorry my typing sucks. Still can't decide if you are dumb or just a troll.

[pwnface]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 02 March 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

Sorry my typing sucks. Still can't decide if you are dumb or just a troll.

Not mutually exclusive.

[Karl Marlow]

Nathan Bloodguard, on 02 March 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

There really isn't much honor to be had attacking someone who you know doesn't have the resources to defend or attack back without losing on their other three fronts. It's kinda like kicking someone while their down...

and on day 2 of CW Liao recognized that and approached Marik about a ceasefire. They did so reasonably and without **** posting. Its a relationship that has held up ever since.

Kurita could still be friends today if they would have spoken with Marik in a civil way. We were already willing to cede back the MS worlds but they decided to just take them all before we were ready to call it quits on the experiment. IS this a nSL issue? Nope. The Wormhole predates the nSL. This was an accord between Kurita and Marik and Kurita broke that accord without even discussing it with us. Now they run around wondering why Marik is out for blood.

I'm not really interested in hearing Kurita whine about how we are diverting them from the clans either. For one they don't have to come down here and defend. Whether they are red or purple planets Kurita can defend them against the clans. As for me personally, I don't care what the clans do anymore. Ever since PGI flip flopped on their stance on not doing a map reset the clans can go to hell.

[Zolaz]

Hmmmmm ... there are a lot of non followers of Miyamato Musashi over in the Dragon.

[Tasker]

ThomasMarik, on 02 March 2015 - 10:31 AM, said:

Kurita could still be friends today if they would have spoken with Marik in a civil way. We were already willing to cede back the MS worlds but they decided to just take them all before we were ready to call it quits on the experiment

Cry some more about inability to defend worlds we give you for free.

[Koshirou]

ThomasMarik, on 02 March 2015 - 10:31 AM, said:

Kurita could still be friends today

With Marik? What I see from these forums leaves me with the conclusion that to Marik, you can only be an enemy or a patsy. Either way, something you can grab some worlds from.

House Marik has taken more worlds from other IS powers than any single Clan has.

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We were already willing to cede back the MS worlds but they decided to just take them all before we were ready to call it quits on the experiment.

But now you're out for blood because you weren't asked nicely enough, right. That sounds neither immature nor like a cheap excuse.

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As for me personally, I don't care what the clans do anymore.

"Anymore"? Now that's a laugh.

[Crockdaddy]

I am interesting myself to see what the results of such a fight might be. I hope NS can have its A and B teams online for this when and if it happens.

For some of you still chomping at the bit, both PWNface and myself are actively organizing Scims on Monday Nights ... maybe we could sync drop a CW match? .... we face DERP tonight in private match scrims. We would genuinely love to hear from more groups. EVen from some of the BOS *******. I'd be interested to see if they could consistently beat us.

[Khanesh Loral]

ThomasMarik, on 02 March 2015 - 10:31 AM, said:

and on day 2 of CW Liao recognized that and approached Marik about a ceasefire. They did so reasonably and without **** posting. Its a relationship that has held up ever since.

Kurita could still be friends today if they would have spoken with Marik in a civil way. We were already willing to cede back the MS worlds but they decided to just take them all before we were ready to call it quits on the experiment. IS this a nSL issue? Nope. The Wormhole predates the nSL. This was an accord between Kurita and Marik and Kurita broke that accord without even discussing it with us. Now they run around wondering why Marik is out for blood.

I'm not really interested in hearing Kurita whine about how we are diverting them from the clans either. For one they don't have to come down here and defend. Whether they are red or purple planets Kurita can defend them against the clans. As for me personally, I don't care what the clans do anymore. Ever since PGI flip flopped on their stance on not doing a map reset the clans can go to hell.

This. So much this.

[Nathan Bloodguard]

The problem I see right now is no one wants to admit the truth, nor let things go. I will try to explain.

The Wormhole project was a complete mess in its closing. There was miscommunication on both sides as to what was going on or going to happen. Things happened to quickly and decisions made in haste.

I, for starters have heard that it was -MS- that had attacked/expanded the wormhole under the guise of a Marik unit. I have also heard that it was a Marik house unit that did this. The planets that I saw at the time showed -MS- tags on them, but that doesn't mean that house units didn't get confused when they saw the the planet light up with attacks and jumped in without orders.

This has lead to the accusation of a sneak attack on the dracs from the wormhole by Marik...

Then the Dracs where going to lean out the wormhole by taking all the worlds labeled -MS- (once again they are mentioned) and then leave it be. Marik was trying to help by dropping units there to throw the match and get those planets back to the Draconis Combine as quick as possible (so you wouldn't have to wait for turret drops). The wormhole was going to be left open in the intent to stick to the original plan of connecting the wormhole to Marik so the algorithm would take it north towards the Drac's capitol and smack into Clan Smoke Jaguar. After it hits the clans, and a few buffer worlds were taken, then the Draconis Combine would have those worlds back to them with no fuss while Marik fought a clan. This may have also caused confusion and had some Marik units actually drop to defend those planets.

This then lead to the Draconis Combine thinking we were defending against them.

Then the Draconis Combine decided to close the wormhole entirely and didn't tell Marik, who only gave a token resistance at first then tried to really defend only when they were down to the last few worlds in a disorganized mess, due to lack of orders from HQ, who where getting a lack of communication from Draconis Combine HQ.

This has now led to the Draconis Combine thinking that Marik is weak and that they can handle them (and I guess the other three fronts they have otherwise they would lose the war...). Which has also led to the bitter feelings that Marik has towards the Draconis Combine, for many of them see that closing of the wormhole as a sneak attack do to, once again, lack of communication from the Draconis Combine. (note: this is a lack of communication in general, not just the Draconis Combine)

In closing, it just seems that people need to act slower in retaliation and communicate more before acting. It would also help if people from both sides would stop "trolling" the other, and then dragging insults from a few members of a faction in the forums into the game (thus punishing the whole faction for less then 5 people's posting in the forums).

(The truth no one seems to see, is that it was -MS- that stirred this pot up and set it a boil. The same -MS- that is Ghost Bear primary. The same -MS- that is trying to distract more resources from the Draconis Combine towards Marik and Davion, so that they can expand Ghost Bear quicker.)

[Molossian Dog]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 02 March 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

Sorry my typing sucks....

Yes.

Typing.

Ha ha ha ha

[Tasker]

Nathan Bloodguard, on 02 March 2015 - 11:26 AM, said:

This has now led to the Draconis Combine thinking that Marik is weak and that they can handle them (and I guess the other three fronts they have otherwise they would lose the war...).

'Disorganized command structure' not really excuse for losing matches over and over and over again.

[Nathan Bloodguard]

Tasker, on 02 March 2015 - 11:44 AM, said:

'Disorganized command structure' not really excuse for losing matches over and over and over again.

Were Marik to attack/defend, or are they helping close the wormhole? Two different actions. You also seem to forget that Marik and the Draconis Combine were suppose to be allies until -MS- started to mess things up. At that point and time, Marik didn't know if they were allies or enemies. Does Marik attack and defend against their allies? Is Marik/Draconis Combine closing the worm hole and helping them do so and throw the match? You also seem to forget, that during this whole mess, all of Marik mercs were either in the Draconis Combine, attacking clan Smoke Jaguar on your behalf, or in the FRR attacking clan Ghost Bear...

'Poor Command Structure' also goes both ways. As stated, there was a lack of communication from BOTH sides. The Draconis Combine didn't communicate it's intentions to Marik, when they decided to close the wormhole. They only made mention of trimming it down and getting rid of -MS- tags, unto which Marik decided to help in that regard by dropping and trying to let you win the match quickly. This lack of communication has led us here. Is Marik and the Draconis Combine still allies? Are they enemies? Are they Neutral?

[Karl Marlow]

Tasker, on 02 March 2015 - 11:44 AM, said:

'Disorganized command structure' not really excuse for losing matches over and over and over again.

Are you the same Kurito that pointed out that Marik has taken more worlds than anyone?

[Khanesh Loral]

ThomasMarik, on 02 March 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

Are you the same Kurito that pointed out that Marik has taken more worlds than anyone?

I was just about to say that....

[Tasker]

ThomasMarik, on 02 March 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

Are you the same Kurito that pointed out that Marik has taken more worlds than anyone?

Taking worlds from Steiner (does not defend southern border) and Davion (busy giving away worlds in desperate bid to get more attacks on Kurita) not really reason for brag.

[Harvey Batchall Kerensky at Law]

Tasker, on 02 March 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

Taking worlds from Steiner (does not defend southern border) and Davion (busy giving away worlds in desperate bid to get more attacks on Kurita) not really reason for brag.

I'd be super proud if people just gave me planets for free too

[Crockdaddy]

Molossian Dog, on 02 March 2015 - 11:40 AM, said:

Yes.

Typing.

Ha ha ha ha

At least I know your a troll now and not just dumb. I kinda feel better knowing this.