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[Escef]

PGI decided to be nice and give the folks that didn't have time to scare up the cash time to do so. I purchased my pack on the 25th. Some people didn't have the money readily available, I did. I don't feel bad because people will get another 2 weeks to scrape the money together for their pre-order. I don't feel it in any way devalues my purchase. I'm not getting anything less than I shelled out for, nor is anyone else getting more.

This community regularly reminds me that PGI could give away boxes full of money and people would complain about how it was folded.

[CocoaJin]

Creovex, on 01 March 2015 - 06:48 PM, said:

Actually I disagree completely with your statements as you don't seem to realize the whole simple concept here. I have re-written it enough so go look over my past posts. Adding drama or stress to a marriage is not a good thing.

My wife loves when they release packs as that's one less holiday/birthday/annivesary gift she has find/get me. However, I dropped Resistance Wrath and Clan Wave 3 all in the same month... had I been less "well off", that could totally cause drama. However the only reason the CW3 happened so fast is they did the extra variant (something I wish had happened with W1 and W2 variants) date thing and DIDN'T addressed it earlier in the week but rather waited till after the deadline.

Bottom-line: They should have changed the date on Thursday at the latest as they were aware that they made a bad call on the early rewards. Since they didn't, some people incurred extra drama in their personal lives..."Happy wife, happy life", well remember angry wife could easily lead to "no more game time" for some people. Just horribly handled all-round. The OP has a point so don't personally attack him. Plenty of other people have posted uncomfortable financial decisions it put them in.... drama from something you enjoy, makes it less enjoyable.

Happy wife, happy life is our responsibility...the buck stops with us. New toys don't waive the need to prioritize sound choices when purchasing them(or better yet, not getting caught). It's not an uncomfortable financial situation unless us husbands spend money on toys we don't have...so toys we shouldn't be getting at the time. PGI ain't twisting our arms to piss off our wives...we do a good enough job of that on our own.

That household tension is of our own doing...period.

[Ted Wayz]

The window was short for one bonus, the rest of the bonus windows are in line with the other packs. What was/is out of whack is the early adopter bonus itself.

If the early adopter bonus was an exclusive skin not many would be griping. But since it is 4 mechs everyone loses their mind over it.

Whatever. PGI listens to he community and that should be appreciated.

[xengk]

I am in one of those weird country where we get paid at the start of the month instead end of the month.

I welcome the extended deadline.

[Creovex]

Mystere, on 01 March 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

With all due respect, a $120 (or less) video game purchase that causes "extra drama in their personal lives" is an indication that something might be amiss.

Yeah, probably his wife doesn't see DLC value nor understand it. Line up 20 wives and offer them a new outfit ($120 worth) or 4 new mechs... and I bet maybe 1 in 10 would understand the comparison.

CocoaJin, on 01 March 2015 - 07:34 PM, said:

Happy wife, happy life is our responsibility...the buck stops with us. New toys don't waive the need to prioritize sound choices when purchasing them(or better yet, not getting caught). It's not an uncomfortable financial situation unless us husbands spend money on toys we don't have...so toys we shouldn't be getting at the time. PGI ain't twisting our arms to piss off our wives...we do a good enough job of that on our own.

That household tension is of our own doing...period.

I don't pretend to know his situation, but I understand the drama a confusion of value in a purchase can have between spouses. I can empathize with his situation, so that being said, stop preaching and thank him. Because he bought something from PGI which keeps them making money, and we need more players like him putting more money in so this company can continue to grow.

Edited by Creovex, 01 March 2015 - 08:01 PM.

[CocoaJin]

Creovex, on 01 March 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

Yeah, probably his wife doesn't see DLC value nor understand it. Line up 20 wives and offer them a new outfit ($120 worth) or 4 new mechs... and I bet maybe 1 in 10 would understand the comparison.



I don't pretend to know his situation, but I understand the drama a confusion of value in a purchase can have between spouses. I can empathize with his situation, so that being said, stop preaching and thank him. Because he bought something from PGI which keeps them making money, and we need more players like him putting more money in so this company can continue to grow.

I have no problem thanking him for his contribution to the game...thank me while we are at it then....but that doesn't give him a pass, nor does it justify giving PGI a hard time for the choices he made and the household consequences he was aware of us when made those choices.

That's like a guy being mad at the car dealer because his wife is upset over the car note on the truck he bought...what sense does that make?

[Creovex]

CocoaJin, on 01 March 2015 - 08:48 PM, said:

That's like a guy being mad at the car dealer because his wife is upset over the car note on the truck he bought...what sense does that make?

No, explain further.

[AlmightyAeng]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 March 2015 - 11:36 AM, said:

or hoping some people will have some tax returns to spend?

That was my thought. Even if sales were AWESOME...why NOT apppear benevolent, extend the date and give all those people with extra cash burning their wallets a chance to let some loose?

[EXO-Scorpion]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well that is great, I'm happy "others" have a chance now. However, there was a deadline... Period... Being "OK" with it is why companies and people nowdays get away with the crap that do.

Make no mistake, I am one of those that people refer to as a "whale" in game and if this is they way it's going to be this whale will find warmer water...

In reguard to you say People are just "OK" with things and Companies treating people . . .
Its kinda like this:
Fast Forward to about 1:20
http://youtu.be/acLW1vFO-2Q

Edited by ExoScorpion650R, 01 March 2015 - 09:01 PM.

[CocoaJin]

Creovex, on 01 March 2015 - 08:50 PM, said:

No, explain further.

When a grown man makes a purchase, the household consequences of that purchases is on him, no one else. The person responsible for the hardship on his household is his himself...all blame/fault falls on his shoulders. That's part of being a man...answering to the consequences of one's actions.

[Creovex]

CocoaJin, on 01 March 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:

When a grown man makes a purchase, the household consequences of that purchases is on him, no one else. The person responsible for the hardship on his household is his himself...all blame/fault falls on his shoulders. That's part of being a man...answering to the consequences of one's actions.

You are aware this isn't 1950s (accountability can be a female thing as well, your sexist tone is unappreciated) and that lawyers rule the day now right?
- A lady buys a coffee from McDonalds, spills it, and sues.... she wins.
- Drunk woman drowns when driving into bay, family sues Honda and wins.
- Two carpenters set a can of flammable adhesive next to a gas hot water heater.... they win even though the can is labeled in bold print "flammable".
- etc... etc....

However, I am all for personal responsibility (I advocate for it) so kudos for the mention, however as a "grown man", you should realize by now that you are living with old time values that matter little in today's world. Anyone can sue for anything and half the time the cost to defend a lawsuit is more then a settlement so they opt to pay out. Additionally, if you live in the US, you know all too well that those who do the right thing get hosed while those who milk the system get away with everything (read up on Bankruptcy Law sometime). Next time you are at the doctors or in a grocery store, look at those getting free stuff through government handouts and take a look at what phone they have, what shoes they are wearing, etc... chances are they are better then yours.

Personal accountability went out the door when people started leaving kids in the car (to die) and the courts felt bad for the parent or when people started living for 20 years on only government handouts... (Google it sometime to educate yourself)

Anyways, I digress. Bottom-line: Nobody is arguing with you about if he is accountable, we all know he could have chosen not to do it. However, at the same time, how do you mitigate this "inconvenience" from happening again? You identify the GAP and rectify it. In the future, PGI should understand WHY they need to not conduct themselves in such a matter, as it has the potential to cause drama for members of the player base.

Note: No further argument is required as Russ has already stated on twitter that he acknowledges their position and will rectify it.

Any further allusions to "responsible" people is a mute point in today's world... sad, but true.

Edited by Creovex, 02 March 2015 - 05:20 AM.

[Escef]

Creovex, on 02 March 2015 - 05:20 AM, said:

- A lady buys a coffee from McDonalds, spills it, and sues.... she wins.

I suggest you educate yourself about that case. The coffee was unreasonably hot, it caused 3rd degree burns that required skin grafts. She only wanted enough money to cover medical expenses and lost wages, asking for around $20,000; McD's offered her $800. After witness testimony, including from McD's own safety people, revealed that McD's knew it was an issue, had been sued for it repeatedly, and went with a policy of settling out of court with people rather than correcting the issue for over a decade. The jury, offended by McD's willful negligence, awarded the woman a total settlement of approximately $2.9 million (the case was appealed and later settled out of court for an undisclosed amount, reportedly less than $600,000).

http://en.wikipedia....27s_Restaurants

[Bishop Steiner]

Creovex, on 02 March 2015 - 05:20 AM, said:

You are aware this isn't 1950s (accountability can be a female thing as well, your sexist tone is unappreciated) and that lawyers rule the day now right?
- A lady buys a coffee from McDonalds, spills it, and sues.... she wins.
- Drunk woman drowns when driving into bay, family sues Honda and wins.
- Two carpenters set a can of flammable adhesive next to a gas hot water heater.... they win even though the can is labeled in bold print "flammable".
- etc... etc....

However, I am all for personal responsibility (I advocate for it) so kudos for the mention, however as a "grown man", you should realize by now that you are living with old time values that matter little in today's world. Anyone can sue for anything and half the time the cost to defend a lawsuit is more then a settlement so they opt to pay out. Additionally, if you live in the US, you know all too well that those who do the right thing get hosed while those who milk the system get away with everything (read up on Bankruptcy Law sometime). Next time you are at the doctors or in a grocery store, look at those getting free stuff through government handouts and take a look at what phone they have, what shoes they are wearing, etc... chances are they are better then yours.

Personal accountability went out the door when people started leaving kids in the car (to die) and the courts felt bad for the parent or when people started living for 20 years on only government handouts... (Google it sometime to educate yourself)

Anyways, I digress. Bottom-line: Nobody is arguing with you about if he is accountable, we all know he could have chosen not to do it. However, at the same time, how do you mitigate this "inconvenience" from happening again? You identify the GAP and rectify it. In the future, PGI should understand WHY they need to not conduct themselves in such a matter, as it has the potential to cause drama for members of the player base.

Note: No further argument is required as Russ has already stated on twitter that he acknowledges their position and will rectify it.

Any further allusions to "responsible" people is a mute point in today's world... sad, but true.

I suppose you want people only to use androgynous Bibles, to never use the term "actress", etc, too? SInce the OP is a man (most likely by the post, though with same sex marriage, not a guarantee) there is nothing remotely sexist in saying "a grown man", since the obvious context is referring directly to the OP, whom, one must assume, is a grown man.

Don't throw out being all for personal responsibility, then cling to the cliches of the ultimate motivator of nobody being responsible for their actions, Political Correctness.

Sheesh dude.... (oh wait...that was sexist.... dude/dudette? Androgynous personage?)

[Dirkdaring]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

Pushing back the early bird special on the Wave III pack is pretty crappy. Some of us took some large Pulse Laser and Machine Gun fire from the wife over this... What exactly do you plan to do for those that actually blindly showed support even though we couldn't see what two of the mechs even looked like, and had only a few days to do so???

Make your minds up and stick to your guns... You look pretty silly when you fold and change your mind... Just sayin...

**Edit** The wife thing is a JOKE...FYI... I guess a lot of people don't see the humor in that...

You should give your wife an adder.

If you know what I mean.

[Hades Trooper]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

Pushing back the early bird special on the Wave III pack is pretty crappy. Some of us took some large Pulse Laser and Machine Gun fire from the wife over this... What exactly do you plan to do for those that actually blindly showed support even though we couldn't see what two of the mechs even looked like, and had only a few days to do so???

Make your minds up and stick to your guns... You look pretty silly when you fold and change your mind... Just sayin...

**Edit** The wife thing is a JOKE...FYI... I guess a lot of people don't see the humor in that...

1st off PGI artwork and mech design is top class, can't fault them on a single design they have made so buying before the art is released is nothing.

2nd , 1 week isn't a sign of an early adopter, it's a sign of those who just happen to have cash laying around.

some people are on fortnightly and monthly pays just can't afford to whipped out that kinda cash without any notice.

for something thats coming out in 5 months time, 2-3 weeks is more reasonable than 1 week. i think 1 month would be better and than have the other rewards at 2,3,4 months periods.

[Bishop Steiner]

Hades Trooper, on 02 March 2015 - 07:13 AM, said:

1st off PGI artwork and mech design is top class, can't fault them on a single design they have made so buying before the art is released is nothing.

2nd , 1 week isn't a sign of an early adopter, it's a sign of those who just happen to have cash laying around.

some people are on fortnightly and monthly pays just can't afford to whipped out that kinda cash without any notice.

for something thats coming out in 5 months time, 2-3 weeks is more reasonable than 1 week. i think 1 month would be better and than have the other rewards at 2,3,4 months periods.

Well...mostly agree with this.
The head of my ENF constantly disagrees with the first part though......

[Huoshini]

I think they did right by folks. Pushing back the dead line and all. They have some folks a break and if other people want to spend money, why should PGI NOT give them the chance. They spend.money-game keeps running. No complaints

[Hades Trooper]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well that is great, I'm happy "others" have a chance now. However, there was a deadline... Period... Being "OK" with it is why companies and people nowdays get away with the crap that do.

Make no mistake, I am one of those that people refer to as a "whale" in game and if this is they way it's going to be this whale will find warmer water...

omg talk about being an uptight ass who thinks it's fair to have a 1 week sale when most people want longer.

If you "whales" had spent enough i'm sure they wouldn't have extended it, but then again without us tunas u whales wo8uld be playing no one so suck it up sunshine

[Corpral ellenbogen]

This should only be a problem for you if you couldnt afford it and did something stupid like spend the last of your paycheck on it... and that my friend is your problem anyway. otherwise oh no more people have more time to buy the same thing you did... its really not that big a deal to adults who understand how the world works so maybe you should calm down.. At the end of the day you still get your mechs that you where going to buy anyway this just helps people like me... say people who want the extra exicutioner but are finacially unable to attain one more time to attain one. but if you really want to show your immaturity wine some more pgi will probably give you a crybaby war horn that goes off when someone steals your kills

[Hades Trooper]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 11:40 AM, said:

What are you babbling about exactly? PGI set the deadline not me, therefore those of us that actually bought it have the RIGHT to our exclusive deal... Period...

wow this sort of entitlement is very rare these days, you must be special or least ride the special bus.