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[Odanan]

My list updated:

Odanan, on 12 November 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:

Clan Second Line Legacy Pack (early Clan non-omni mechs - most need extra variants):

- Light: Piranha (or Horned Owl/Peregrin**, or Incubus/Vixen*)
- Medium: Conjurer/Hellhound* (or Vapor Eagle/Goshawk*)
- Heavy: Grizzly (or Glass Spider/Galahad*, or Black Python/Viper*)
- Assault: Kodiak
Reinforcements/Reward: Supernova, Bane/Kraken*, Stone Rhino/Behemoth*

* good Unseen (same situation as the Jenner IIC: can be used without the risk of any law suit). The Conjurer should look similar to the MWO's Wolverine (it is in all but in name the Wolverine IIC - something MW4 just ignored when they made a completely new design).
** bad Unseen (Macross derivated mech)


Clan Wave IV (Timeline: 3052):

- Light: Fire Falcon (or a MASC-less Fire Moth)
- Medium: Black Lanner (or Viper, or Phantom, or Pouncer, or Huntsman)
- Heavy: Night Gyr (or Linebacker)
- Assault: Turkina (or Kingfisher)
Reinforcement/Reward: [any listed medium omnimech not yet included]


Clan Wave V (later omnimechs. Timeline: 3060):

- Light: Hellion
- Medium: Mongrel/Grendel (or Viper, or Phantom, or Pouncer, or Huntsman)
- Heavy: Nova Cat
- Assault: Blood Asp
Reinforcement/Reward: [any listed medium omnimech not yet included]


Clan Wave VI (AKA "The Leftovers". Timeline: 3060)

Light: Cougar (or a MASC-less Fire Moth)
Medium: Viper (or Phantom, or Pouncer, or Huntsman)
Heavy: Linebacker
Assault: Savage Coyote
Reinforcement/Reward: [any listed medium omnimech not yet included]

[Tordin]

Just give me Cougar (light), Hellhound (medium), Nova Cat (heavy) and Mad Cat Mk II (assault) sometime and I'll be a happy pilot

[Alec Braca]

CyclonerM, on 19 July 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

Not all of our OmniMechs are expensive or new (like a fair share of our good old Summoners ) but were i in you, i would worry about how to replace your pluricenturies-old BattleMechs now that a lot of your factories have never been rebuilt after the Succession Wars

Well, you know what? There is a reason even Clan units often prefer to retreat instead of fighting to the last man and machine.. Just wished we had a "surrender" option or, better, the possibility of trying to retreat off-map once a team gets under a % of combat efficiency.

We didn't blow ALL of them up, just MOST. The FRR has...

Grumium Creations - Grumium - Cyclops / Crockett
Bergen Industries - Alshain - Locust
Gorton, Kingsley, and Thorpe Enterprises - Satalice - Archer / Panther / Phoenix Hawk
Benson and Bjorn - Spittal - Tracked APC / Scorpion Tank / Vedette Tank
Odin Manufacturing - Orestes - Ostscout / Puma Tank
Alshain Weapons - Alshain - Panther
Alshain Weapons - New Oslo - Panther

Wildstreak, on 28 June 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

Solahma Dregs
Scraping the Barrel Bottom
Dezgra Scum
Stravag Dogs
It will be real interesting seeing Clans deploy a lot of Jenner IICs with their OmniMechs.

You can give the IS those mechs if you don't want to pilot them

[Alec Braca]

Don't be cruel to the IS Star League mechs Clanners. All of your original Khans / Bloodnames warriors / General Kerensky piloted vintage mechs. General Kerensky piloted an Orion at one point. The Clans fought the Pentagon Powers in Operation Klondike using only SL Era mechs, tanks, and aerospace. It is not the mech that sucks, its the pilot using it.

Khan Dana Kufahl - First Clan Coyote Khan - Black Knight
Mechwarrior Roger Calahan - Clan Wolverine Mechwarrior - Wolverine II
Andery Kerensky - Nicholas Kerensky's younger brother - Exterminator
Aleksandr Kerensky - SLDF General - Orion / Atlas II

Im sure you can find more...

[KursedVixen]

Nova cat? -3059

Cougar? -3058

Supernova (non-omni clan mech) -2846

personally speaking I'll be grabbing some Jenner IIC's when their out for c-bills.

Edited by KursedVixen, 19 July 2015 - 10:07 AM.

[Alec Braca]

Tordin, on 19 July 2015 - 07:00 AM, said:

Just give me Cougar (light), Hellhound (medium), Nova Cat (heavy) and Mad Cat Mk II (assault) sometime and I'll be a happy pilot

Just give me these IS mechs from 3055:

Venom (Light) - To better annoy you with.
Komodo (Medium) - 10 ML, TAG, ECM, x2 AMS....Hell yeah, thank you DC!
Bandersnatch (Heavy) - This decision was hard considering the other options.
Grand Titan / Berserker (Assault) - GT would mess mechs up and the Berserker to plant a hatchet in OmniMech faces.

Stone Rhino (Behemoth) - So I can salvage it from you and pilot it myself! MWAHAHAHA!

http://www.sarna.net...l_Readout:_3055

[NUJRSYDEVIL]

There were rumblings as to why the Kodiak was either not a) realistic or doable. Could someone remind me why we can't get the Kodiak next? I still have very fond memories of it from MW2:GBL

[Repasy Cooper]

NUJRSYDEVIL, on 22 July 2015 - 08:30 AM, said:

There were rumblings as to why the Kodiak was either not a) realistic or doable. Could someone remind me why we can't get the Kodiak next? I still have very fond memories of it from MW2:GBL

A lot of the previous deliberation I started is now probably moot, seeing as they've announced the Origins IIC pack. They'll probably attempt to make a trilogy of IIC Battlemechs before releasing more Omni packs, but who knows, we could see individually released Clan mechs. Since Clan Battlemechs are now confirmed, I'd imagine the Kodiak is now a possible candidate (though I'm sure PGI will release it in a 4-pack, due to its high popularity).

[Dagorlad13]

Repasy, on 22 July 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

A lot of the previous deliberation I started is now probably moot, seeing as they've announced the Origins IIC pack. They'll probably attempt to make a trilogy of IIC Battlemechs before releasing more Omni packs, but who knows, we could see individually released Clan mechs. Since Clan Battlemechs are now confirmed, I'd imagine the Kodiak is now a possible candidate (though I'm sure PGI will release it in a 4-pack, due to its high popularity).

The only reasons that the Kodiak was not released were supposedly because a Standard engine Clan mech that is as configurable as an IS mech would be too OP....but hey!...Orion IIC....cough...cough. Other reasons might have been the unique model and lack of MASC in MWO (before wave 3), or, they are saving it for a Hero mech. Also, I do not believe that the Kodiak was available in the early 3050s.

[Black Sabetha]

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kodiak
Produced in 3001... so where is it?

[Alec Braca]

Sabetha Youngblood, on 22 July 2015 - 11:51 AM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kodiak
Produced in 3001... so where is it?

Back in the Clan Homeworlds.

[CoffiNail]

Alec Braca, on 22 July 2015 - 06:08 PM, said:

Back in the Clan Homeworlds.

No there are a few in the Inner Sphere. They tend to be used by Cluster Commanders on Garrison galaxies.

[Alec Braca]

CoffiNail, on 22 July 2015 - 06:39 PM, said:

No there are a few in the Inner Sphere. They tend to be used by Cluster Commanders on Garrison galaxies.

Well son of a witch...

[Pariah Devalis]

...I would say "because of a lack of timeline variants," but, again, Orion IIC and Highlander IIC. They just outright invented variants for those, so who knows. The whole business of completely unrestricted Clan Battlemechs still gives me the heebee jeebees for balance - and just makes Clan omnimechs without endo and ferro that much worse of an option.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 25 July 2015 - 06:40 AM.

[CoffiNail]

I forse a turn around in the universe. Clan IIC Battlemechs will be the Front Line mechs while Omnimechs will be forgotten... Sad, very sad.

[CyclonerM]

CoffiNail, on 25 July 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

I forse a turn around in the universe. Clan IIC Battlemechs will be the Front Line mechs while Omnimechs will be forgotten... Sad, very sad.

GG PGI...

If at least Omnies in MWO had a logistical advantage when it comes to switching loadouts before a battle.. Say, take another variant of the same Omni after you see the map..

[Odanan]

CyclonerM, on 26 July 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:

GG PGI...

If at least Omnies in MWO had a logistical advantage when it comes to switching loadouts before a battle.. Say, take another variant of the same Omni after you see the map..

That's interesting, but very complicate to implement.
Maybe if the game had a "save configuration" feature, it would be possible.

[CyclonerM]

Odanan, on 26 July 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

That's interesting, but very complicate to implement.
Maybe if the game had a "save configuration" feature, it would be possible.

Of course, it is something that should have been added from the start.. Or at least included in the designs for CW..

[Repasy Cooper]

I would love to pilot a Bane. 10x UAC2 ftw!

[Summon3r]

Repasy, on 28 July 2015 - 07:16 AM, said:

I would love to pilot a Bane. 10x UAC2 ftw!

ghost heat FTL