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[Min0taur]

FINAL EDIT: As you can see I finally made my move... Check pg4 if you want to know more...


Keep in mind these facts:

- I like the Battletech universe and lore...
- I played a lot of MechWarrior & MechCommander games...
- I spent around 100$ in WoT, so 120$ for MWO shouldn't be too much of a problem...
- I consider Legendary the only interesting option. So, for me, it's Legendary or nothing... (*)

- I pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 and Diablo 3. Two franchises that I liked and spent a lot of time playing, but the latest releases where less than the developpers promised (to put it mildly...). So, you can now guess that I'm no longer a fan of pre-ordering or paying before seeing a game...
- I don't know much about MWO mechanic. How many mechs, maps or game modes will be available at release?... No feedbacks from peoples who actually tried the beta... I don't feel I know enough about the state of the game. Fun to play?... Well balanced?... Negligeable server lag?... Tedious C-Bills and XP grinding or not?...
- That may be secondary to some peoples, but after playing others MW games and WoT, watching videos of MWO and seeing that mechs don't make tree falls when you hit them is quite a turnoff for me...

So, here's the challenge:

Why should I spend 120$ for a MMO game that is so young and unproven...

Edit:
To resume my doubts: In Battletech lore, I trust... In Pirahna/IGP to deliver their promises, my doubts is...


(*) I'm aware there are other, less costly options... But it is a personal choice of plunging head first or not at all...
Mainly for 2 reasons:
- If I help, I help all the way, since I can...
- I want the 4 Founders mechs, so I can have the liberty of playing the class I want...
Beside, I'm used to other games that usually makes the light mechs obsolete when you got the bigger ones. Partly because of this, I'm not sure which one I'll be more confortable with. So, for me choosing only one is a gamble. Better get the 4 in that case...


FINAL EDIT: As you can see I finally made my move... Check pg4 if you want to know more...

Edited by Min0taur, 04 July 2012 - 01:35 AM.

[Grimarch]

Dont wait and see if the game is good...to late you cant buy the Founders pack.....its the choice, believe the investment has been good and the devs can get it right in the end, first release will be fine will always be some issues.

Its $120 i would have paid 10x that to be guaranteed a Beta slot...

[FactorlanP]

Apparently, you shouldn't.

The Founders Packages are for those of us with faith.

[MrMasakari]

Well from my point of view, if you want to support the guys helping bring back a legendary franchise to its former glory alongside the fact that you enjoy/like/love the battletech universe then I'd say soley that. See it as an investment. If not that or your tempted but not quite sure enough, check out some of the leaked beta vids and the vids that the devs have released and see if it gives you confidence. This one for example

Hopefully what i've said may atleast help you aid your decision in some way.

[Min0taur]

FactorlanP, on 27 June 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Apparently, you shouldn't.

The Founders Packages are for those of us with faith.

Aren't you supposed to turn me to your faith, like a religious preacher...

[Aegis Kleais]

Min0taur, on 27 June 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Keep in mind these facts:

- I like the Battletech universe and lore...
- I played a lot of MechWarrior & MechCommander games...
- I spent around 100$ in WoT, so 120$ for MWO shouldn't be too much of a problem...
- I consider Legendary the only interesting option. So, for me, it's Legendary or nothing...

- I pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 and Diablo 3. Two franchises that I liked and spent a lot of time playing, but the latest releases where less than the developpers promised (to put it mildly...). So, you can now guess that I'm no longer a fan of pre-ordering or paying before seeing a game...
- I don't know much about MWO mechanic. How many mechs, maps or game modes will be available at release?... No feedbacks from peoples who actually tried the beta... I don't feel I know enough about the state of the game. Fun to play?... Well balanced?... Negligeable server lag?... Tedious C-Bills and XP grinding or not?...
- That may be secondary to some peoples, but after playing others MW games and WoT, watching videos of MWO and seeing that mechs don't make tree falls when you hit them is quite a turnoff for me...

So, here's the challenge:

Why should I spend 120$ for a MMO game that is so young and unproven...

You shouldn't.

You're obviously not willing to invest in something until the risk is better visualized. Wait til the game comes out, and if you like what you see, look into spending money on the game. It's as simple as that.

As for the fact that it's a limited time deal and you'll never get the opportunity to get those things, cest la vie. Incentives are used to promote sales; you take the good with the bad.

[FactorlanP]

Min0taur, on 27 June 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Aren't you supposed to turn me to your faith, like a religious preacher...

Nah, in my religion, we just kill the infidels and the clanners...

[Rychard Starheart]

look at it this way.

the $120 is not to 'preorder' but to support a newer, smaller company trying to get its footing so it can continue to expand after the game launches. for your gift of money to them, they are giving you a bunch of cool shiney toys to play with that give lifetime boosts.

[xfreewater]

I've been burnt on several pre-release purchases. However, MWO is a franchise I greatly desire to play in. I'd also like to see more in the payment model that they've chosen because it requires them to produce new content to keep the game growing and interesting. I think the value of what you get has been detailed enough. The question I think you're asking more is if the end game will be all it is cracked up to be. The simple answer is the community doesn't know, but many of us are willing to put faith in Piranha as former producers. I'm willing to risk my hard earned cash. If you're not, then wait. It always boils down to risk vs reward. I view the risk as less than if I had put my money into Star Trek Online (which I did) and then regretted it for the cost vs reward- but still glad to support the franchise.

[Zack Delphirian]

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- I pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 and Diablo 3. Two franchises that I liked and spent a lot of time playing, but the latest releases where less than the developpers promised (to put it mildly...). So, you can now guess that I'm no longer a fan of pre-ordering or paying before seeing a game...

Well then I guess that the founder's package, which is essentially a pre-order, is not well suited for you my friend .

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- I don't know much about MWO mechanic. How many mechs, maps or game modes will be available at release?... No feedbacks from peoples who actually tried the beta... I don't feel I know enough about the state of the game. Fun to play?... Well balanced?... Negligeable server lag?... Tedious C-Bills and XP grinding or not?...

We don't know...You can guess it if you calculate the number of maps/mechs/modes already released and the time betwenn now and the release date I guess...But this is not an issue since it's on the F2P model, so first the game goes at with all it's mechanics and as free of bugs as possible, THEN all the ne stuff keep coming full speed as the game ages.

Did you know more when you pre-order D3 and ME3 ? Neither did I, but I had faith, and I might be naive, but I want to keep faith in this game. So I paid, and if everyone do as I do, devs get more money and can hire more people to work on the game and/or go on vacations and pay for their drugs...but then they are more relaxed and work better on the game so it's all the same in the end right ?

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- That may be secondary to some peoples, but after playing others MW games and WoT, watching videos of MWO and seeing that mechs don't make tree falls when you hit them is quite a turnoff for me...

It's a beta...Plus I think I remember a member of the PGI team saying something about getting the trees to fall in the future, when they'll have more server-power or something.

[oohawkoo]

hmm ok bio ware got in the neck for mass effect 3 and a remakeing the ending somewhat... (they at least care about the fan base enough to do this).. blizz doesnt seem to give a damn about their fan base if they dont play wow (its their biggest money maker after all) you cant really use these two companys as a comparison ... on another note diablo seem to me like a cut down vesion of wow these days =.= nothing like the old diablos =3

on that not you ARNT pre ordering the game u are pre ordering the premium access your prolly gonna choose to get when its live anyway .... on top of which you get a mech or 4 for two of the founders versions (which have their own advantages the extra cbills per battle)... and on top of that if you do order it... you get the chance to enter the final stages of beta testing befor going live o.O......if you dont want to order its your choice... and nothing anyone says will change ur mind really =X

if you like the company and the idea they have come up with then support them to the level you think best .. if you cant have that kinda faith then wait and support them later....

"start rant" on a personal note im getting a bit tired of seeing "why should i buy.......etc etc" or "give me beta now and ill buy ..."~~ ..... "end rant" mutter mutter "$"%"

[JessterC]

Why??!?!?

... because MECHWARRIOR!!!!

[IronGoat]

you should spend $120 so the hippies who wont pay have a game to play too

[Rejarial Galatan]

to our OP: I say this: Nothing and no one stated you MUST pay 120 dollars. As you can see by the tag under my allegiance Icon, I spent 60. Some have spent 30. It is a matter of faith in PGI and your desire to help fund this game to make it better and better and better. The more money we pay them for things like Founders or fuzzy dice or w/e the better we can expect content to be because they have more money to put into the developmental cycles.

[Hikaru]

$120 isn't going to a preorder. Not even a collector's edition.

It's more like Kickstarter. If you give us $X, we will give you Y when the game comes out.

You're literally supporting the development of the game, and will get your name in the credits.

That's a lot more than $120 to Activision would ever get you.

[Insidious Johnson]

Dude, I faced my challenge... you face yours, lol.

[Danikov]

For one, you're getting $80 of in-game currency for that price, so basically you're paying $40 for all the founder stuff and early access. Compared to the price of some WoT premium tanks, $40 for 4 exclusive premium hulls and 3 months premium account is a bargain.

However, the most important thing is that you're a fan- even if it's not perfect from day 1, you're going to be willing to stick at it for a bit and do your bit in helping make it better. F2P games are maturing and MWO has a good inspiration to draw on (World of Tanks, for one, is a solid game and there's no shame in being inspired by something that works). Even if it's not perfect, you have the added benefit of stomping around in big BattleTech mechs, and the videos released so far have certainly got me excited for that alone.

[Kracow]

Roll the dice because so far after watching someone play beta it's pretty much a gamble will it be good as a final product?

Hopefully it works great after it nears the final product I'm sure a lot of gamblers have placed that bet already.

[CCC Dober]

Apart from what has been said, the amount of information available in these forums is quite staggering. The dev-community interaction, up to the presidential level of PGI is something that I haven't experienced before. And the best part is probably the fact that it's not just words but actions and plenty of evidence to be seen, where it becomes clear that this game is miles ahead of the competition, no matter what people try to say or insinuate. Whether you see all that or not, the decision couldn't be made easier if you ask me. I can understand if you bought titles based on goodwill in the past years and based on experiences with preceeding games. MW:O represents a complete reboot of the franchise and as such can't be compared. This game is quite literally ground breaking and has incredible potential.

The best part for the fans is the fact that MW:O ended up with a developer who is obviously committed to quality and handles the project with the required caution and professionality. Not just that, they are fans of the franchise themselves. They have more than one reason to make this game a complete success and that bodes well for those interested in the game and the fans of the franchise. If that isn't enough reason to make a step forwards and welcome their efforts, then I'm pretty sure you're looking for the wrong thing. This is not a finished product yet. The basic functionality is expanded as we speak and gets tweaked in the next time. Also, you're not really buying anything that you can take home and claim as your own. If you trust PGI enough to do the job right, then you should commit. If you (still) don't, then simply wait and see. Those who do can claim bragging rights (credits) and get some goodies to help them out in the short and long run.

[KageRyuu]

FactorlanP, on 27 June 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Apparently, you shouldn't.

The Founders Packages are for those of us with faith.

In Comstar we trust lol