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[Bloodweaver]

Scout Derek, on 11 May 2015 - 07:12 PM, said:

WTF man, remove that, no trolls, we already have enough.

You're joking, right?

[IraqiWalker]

Bloodweaver, on 11 May 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

You're joking, right?

Scout is on the money. No need to raise a ruckus where there isn't one. People can misunderstand a lot of things. Especially on these forums. Better safe than sorry.

[Light-Speed]

Yeonne Greene, on 11 May 2015 - 01:20 AM, said:

The irony there is that JJs don't actually make you turn any faster in a Light. Go ahead, watch how fast you turn on your mini-map. What they do do...is slow your speed down and actually make you an easier target by releasing the control of the 'Mech for that instant. I love Firestarters trying to feather, only making themselves ripe for the PPC-blasting.

Don't shut it down as not true just yet. There may be something that your example was doing wrong. Also you are generalizing and assuming about its use. Be careful with that.

Edited by Nightingale27, 11 May 2015 - 08:24 PM.

[IraqiWalker]

Nightingale27, on 11 May 2015 - 08:16 PM, said:

Don't shut it down as not true just yet. There may be something that your example was doing wrong. Also you are generalizing. Be careful with that.

(factors in JJ turn: mouse dpi, mech speed, and appliance of center leg or not. EDIT: also if the jump carries you over slopes or not)

JJs lock you to a much slower speed than your running speed is. So you can turn on a dime, but while flying, you are also very slow. So Slow I can charge my Gauss Rifle, pick which section to hit on a spider, and kill the flying monstrosity before it has landed.

[RoboPatton]

There was a period in Battlefield 3, where there were a bunch of hackers suddenly. It ruined the game for me, and at the time the response was slow.

PGI jumped right on that sh-t.

My respect level for PGI has gone up 2 sizes this day.

[jaxjace]

Being called hacker is a true badge of honor.

[HellJumper]

well but after all we are hackers right??

we have been playing for soo long that most of us actually know how to aim, or alpha without shutting down or stuff like that...

Hackers assembled

(i got hit by a splat cat last night at close range, got from all fresh to critical, so i guess hacker?)

[Hydrocarbon]

Just to fuel the fire, last night a teammate was singled out just past spawn by a random wolfpack that had made a bee-line to his stalker. I was afk for the first min, so I had hid in a corner to avoid activating their seismic. All of a sudden my seismic showed a mech on the platform above me making a DIRECT LINE to my exact spot (still hidden), then the mech droped down behind me. He obviously didn't think I had seismic. I've seen lances single out mechs, but to guess precisely where a stationary & hidden mech is over a ledge... you be the judge.

I wasn't really salty because we still won. The last 3 had moved into our spawn to sling lurms & ERLL's and ignored my weaponless & legged mech as I tried bumping them. I acted like a mobile UAV while getting down to 19% in a XL WVR-6K, and we crushed them.

[IraqiWalker]

Hydrocarbon, on 11 May 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:

Just to fuel the fire, last night a teammate was singled out just past spawn by a random wolfpack that had made a bee-line to his stalker. I was afk for the first min, so I had hid in a corner to avoid activating their seismic. All of a sudden my seismic showed a mech on the platform above me making a DIRECT LINE to my exact spot (still hidden), then the mech droped down behind me. He obviously didn't think I had seismic. I've seen lances single out mechs, but to guess precisely where a stationary & hidden mech is over a ledge... you be the judge.

I wasn't really salty because we still won. The last 3 had moved into our spawn to sling lurms & ERLL's and ignored my weaponless & legged mech as I tried bumping them. I acted like a mobile UAV while getting down to 19% in a XL WVR-6K, and we crushed them.

All I can say is that if they were gunning for you, and had cheat tools, they wouldn't have missed you.

[Ghogiel]

Is the aimbot as rampant in the underhive as it is on mount tryhard?

[Satan n stuff]

Roadbuster, on 10 May 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

Headshot once? Ok.
Headshot twice in a row? Hmmm...
Headshot three times in a row? Smells fishy.

Lucky shots happen and nobody has perfect aim, so if someone consistently hits the cockpit of a moving mech, I get suspicious.

Depends on the mech, double tapping some mech's heads is nigh impossible, but others are actually easier to headshot than most mechs were in CB, and plenty of players could consistently headshot mechs back then.

[Matthew Ace]

Hydrocarbon, on 11 May 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:

Just to fuel the fire....

(Looks at your callsign)

(Looks at the first sentence)

I see what you did there.

Satan n stuff, on 12 May 2015 - 12:15 AM, said:

Depends on the mech, double tapping some mech's heads is nigh impossible, but others are actually easier to headshot than most mechs were in CB, and plenty of players could consistently headshot mechs back then.

Headshots were a more realistic goal back then. Now, even TT has more headshots, not counting targets standing still for extended period of time.

However, even now, certain humanoid mechs with obvious heads or clearly defined head hitboxes are more prone to getting headshotted when they peek over a hill.

Edited by Matthew Ace, 12 May 2015 - 02:09 AM.

[oldradagast]

Just to give a few examples of questionable events:

1) Well over a year ago, died in my Atlas from a headshot with a perfect, clean kill - first enemy attack, no damage elsewhere, but here's the thing: The only enemy mechs were a distance away to my RIGHT - the side opposite the Atlas's cockpit eye, and I hadn't even turned towards them before they autokilled me since I was coming around a hill on my right. I also somehow died to an AC 20 and PPC - that was it listed on the "what killed you" list - and those weapons don't have remotely similar flight characteristics from a distance. Cheating or just a huge game screw up?

2) Died to repeated Gauss cockpit hits in a Thunderbolt... except I was moving and twisting at a good speed, and the Thud has an off-set cockpit, resulting in more physical movement of its cockpit than most mechs. And yet it didn't matter - every shot from that enemy landed perfectly on the cockpit.

3) Running full speed up-slope in a Cataphract while perpendicular to the enemy, while also twisting. Enemy gauss mech at over 1km still had zero problem putting his shots exactly where he wanted them on me and other targets, regardless of twisting, speed, etc. The whole match went like that - basically, every shot the guy fired hit whatever he wanted; I've never seen perfect aim like that before or since, so, yeah, it's suspect.

I've also seen one or two odd instances (though not recently) where an enemy mech somehow ends up practically on top of our team near match start, as if they somehow started moving while everyone else was going through the power-up sequence. Again, a bug, cheating, or something else? Who knows.

Edited by oldradagast, 12 May 2015 - 03:03 AM.

[TWIAFU]

LORD TSARKON, on 10 May 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:

<--Player since Jan 2013 to now....

Only called a Hack/Cheater ONCE.....

one freakin time in the 1000s of games I have played...

Also it was when I was doing the AC/40 Jager.... because I was too poor to get the Highlanders Double PPC+Gauss...

I was called a cheater once too, just recently.

It was when my Urbie made his first drop and went 100 kph.

Aparently I was using a speed hak.

[Matthew Ace]

That reminds me, I had an oddly suspicious game myself a couple months ago.

I got 1-hit KO-ed by a firestarter (likely 8 SPL?) in a 100%-armored Awesome 9M with XL engine through my rear side torso. I had 13 point of armor on each rear ST, and 44 internals (34 + 10 from quirks). My ammo was stored in head and a leg. Till this day I'm still baffled how it happened. Even with 3x crits on every SPL, it's still impossible.

I didn't even hear the lasers when I blew up; I only saw the Firestarter run away from my corpse. I wasn't experiencing any lag spikes either.

Edited by Matthew Ace, 12 May 2015 - 04:30 AM.

[Sarlic]

Ammo explosion?

[Matthew Ace]

Sarlic, on 12 May 2015 - 04:35 AM, said:

Ammo explosion?

Ammo's in one of the leg and head. I got blown clean through Rear Side Torso. It doesn't add up even if he rolled 3x crit on every of his weapon (13 armor, 44 internals). There's only 2 possibly legit conclusion I had from this:

(1) There was another guy with him and they attacked simultaneously. (didn't see any accomplice though)
(2) He was packing something else that enabled an even bigger alpha.

Edited by Matthew Ace, 12 May 2015 - 04:58 AM.

[Knyx]

RoboPatton, on 11 May 2015 - 08:36 PM, said:

There was a period in Battlefield 3, where there were a bunch of hackers suddenly. It ruined the game for me, and at the time the response was slow.

PGI jumped right on that sh-t.

My respect level for PGI has gone up 2 sizes this day.

Yea they jumped right on it all right.... lol

The person that was banned was probably cheating for a very LONG time, the only reason they banned him is the individual fame. Where as the dozens of members of certain high ranking units have yet to be banned, even with the hours of blatantly obvious footage me and others have given PGI along with reports.

So I wouldn't give props until we see some serious progression and major hammering from PGI because atm it looks like the ban was probably a combination of the individual infamy and wouldn't be surprised if that individual did not put much real money into the game at all, where as I bet the ones that have been reported with evidence and still not banned probably spend real money (hint hint)

[Scout Derek]

Hydrocarbon, on 11 May 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:

Just to fuel the fire, last night a teammate was singled out just past spawn by a random wolfpack that had made a bee-line to his stalker. I was afk for the first min, so I had hid in a corner to avoid activating their seismic. All of a sudden my seismic showed a mech on the platform above me making a DIRECT LINE to my exact spot (still hidden), then the mech droped down behind me. He obviously didn't think I had seismic. I've seen lances single out mechs, but to guess precisely where a stationary & hidden mech is over a ledge... you be the judge.

I wasn't really salty because we still won. The last 3 had moved into our spawn to sling lurms & ERLL's and ignored my weaponless & legged mech as I tried bumping them. I acted like a mobile UAV while getting down to 19% in a XL WVR-6K, and we crushed them.

Only Logical solution: BAP

You got schooled son. (sorry to hear about that, they were probably veterans at this game)

[Z01]

Most suspected cheater using ERPPC and Gauss Rifle at incredible range. How long has the cheat been out there? Really hate it when you cannot even try to fight back.