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[CrushLibs]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Pure Clan whine idiocy, the only area where Clans dont completely overshine IS is with Autocannons, and IS pays a HUGE tonnage tax on those, and cant bring XL engines because it turns the mech into a literal glass cannon.

Its a revaluation!!!!!!!!!!!! IS pilots like Gas & yourself can't win unless its using the easy button. I public drop all the time in a IS mech with nothing but UAC-5s with an XL and no armor and regularly get top kills and damage its a challenge but SUPER FUN.

20 alpha , 208 points of armor , 61.7kph w/speed tweak , and has an XL engine and ITS A BLAST since the UACs get an extra 150m of range , 30% less jams and its not spread damage like my DW.

PGI would you please increase IS DHS to 2.0 from 1.4 and triple the armor and increase engine speeds by 30% too we must make the crap pilots happy.

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

I hope that you someday play on the Clan side of CW and see how "unbelievable" it is. You sound like a beaten dog that just got off his chain and can't accept the good life he now has or in this case the OP quirks.

I plan on it when my unit agrees to (a lot of stubborn members that don't want to bother with Clan mechs for lore reasons).

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

Its a revaluation!!!!!!!!!!!! IS pilots like Gas & yourself can't win unless its using the easy button. I public drop all the time in a IS mech with nothing but UAC-5s with an XL and no armor and regularly get top kills and damage its a challenge but SUPER FUN.

20 alpha , 208 points of armor , 61.7kph w/speed tweak , and has an XL engine and ITS A BLAST since the UACs get an extra 150m of range , 30% less jams and its not spread damage like my DW.

PGI would you please increase IS DHS to 2.0 from 1.4 and triple the armor and increase engine speeds by 30% too we must make the crap pilots happy.

Lol yeah.. That's right I need an easy button to win.

[Adamski]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

Its a revaluation!!!!!!!!!!!! IS pilots like Gas & yourself can't win unless its using the easy button. I public drop all the time in a IS mech with nothing but UAC-5s with an XL and no armor and regularly get top kills and damage its a challenge but SUPER FUN.

20 alpha , 208 points of armor , 61.7kph w/speed tweak , and has an XL engine and ITS A BLAST since the UACs get an extra 150m of range , 30% less jams and its not spread damage like my DW.

PGI would you please increase IS DHS to 2.0 from 1.4 and triple the armor and increase engine speeds by 30% too we must make the crap pilots happy.

**Hmm... I cant refute anything he says, so I better turn to hyperbole and set up a strawman argument that I CAN deal with.**

Just stop dude.

[Arioch1973]

Not going to discuss this specific topic anymore. Tukkayid basically killed CW for me. Burned out due to repetative gameplay, and now I can only fight other IS. Meeh. Not fun. My solution..... Resistance Pack II, ORDERED. EH. No. Cancel that.. Not going to. No more cashfeed to the insanity. Vote with your wallet. As easy as that.

[DHeth]

A mechanic that reduces Dropdeck tonnage the farther you get from your Capital world would be interesting. Making it harder for invaders and easier for beleaguered defenders.

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

I played 95 CW matches for Tukayyid with 14 over 300 match scores and not one that didn't qualify. How did both of you fair?

Would love to pull this stat for you but I don't know how to find it. I do know that I did 48 matches (IS wait times) and qualified every single time.

[Jack Spade Ward]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Pure Clan whine idiocy, the only area where Clans dont completely overshine IS is with Autocannons, and IS pays a HUGE tonnage tax on those, and cant bring XL engines because it turns the mech into a literal glass cannon.

You make me laugh... LOL Matched mechs???? Really? Look at the quircks!!! Please, do!!!

Play CW as clan, please... do it... and i bet you will agree with me!

[CrushLibs]

I did my 50 games by Monday missing 1/2 of Saturday I was playing 20 games a day.

You goto---> http://mwomercs.com/tournaments click PREVIOUS and look at the bottom of the list

http://mwomercs.com/...nts?t=201504tuk that might work too

Edited by CrushLibs, 12 May 2015 - 10:43 AM.

[PhoenixNMGLB]

Personally I think the motivation is just simply this;

There have been a lot of changes since the drop weight was increased for IS (new quirks, IS LL change, CW game mode alterations, new maps, number of zones changed).

It just makes sense to drop the base line to even keel again to see what difference it makes, that's all.

If it doesn't work out it'll probably get changed again.

[Jack Spade Ward]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Pure Clan whine idiocy, the only area where Clans dont completely overshine IS is with Autocannons, and IS pays a HUGE tonnage tax on those, and cant bring XL engines because it turns the mech into a literal glass cannon.

One thing i can agree with you, the stormcrow with 5 SSRM6 with CAB, thats the perfect light mech killer... if you fire in chain fire. Besides that, no clan mech, even the timber wolf, cant match with the IS meta mechs.

There is a reason why clan population dont play CW anymore, playing against the meta is challenging, but enough is enough.

PGI needs to unnerf clan tech, put clan tech more expensive. If the nerf keeps like this, at least give the clan players the option to change engines, jumpjets and all that IS can get. Or drop down the massive quirks of the IS mechs!

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

I did my 50 games by Monday missing 1/2 of Saturday I was playing 20 games a day.

You goto---> http://mwomercs.com/tournaments click PREVIOUS and look at the bottom of the list

http://mwomercs.com/...nts?t=201504tuk that might work too

PM sent, don't need this to be a public e-peen measuring.

[Adamski]

PhoenixNMGLB, on 12 May 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

Personally I think the motivation is just simply this;

There have been a lot of changes since the drop weight was increased for IS (new quirks, IS LL change, CW game mode alterations, new maps, number of zones changed).

It just makes sense to drop the base line to even keel again to see what difference it makes, that's all.

If it doesn't work out it'll probably get changed again.

That is almost the definition of Scatter Shot or Balance by Dart Board.

Every single CW event that PGI has held has had the Clans come out on top, both Tukayyid and Prove Your Allegiance. Both of these events have taken place after the changes that PGI thinks they need more data on.

There is no reason to be reducing IS combat effectiveness when looking at the data that PGI has provided.

[Juodas Varnas]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:48 AM, said:

There is a reason why clan population dont play CW anymore, playing against the meta is challenging, but enough is enough.

You're troling right?
You've got to be.

Playing against meta... YOU ARE THE META. CLAN LASER VOMIT IS THE META.

[Torchfire Katayama]

Der Hesse, on 12 May 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

Lol.....got that Gas? You don´t play much Cw! ^^
This guy knows it all. *rofl*

That makes it even more pathetic that he think the DW is a viable CW mech.

[Gas Guzzler]

Torchfire, on 12 May 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

That makes it even more pathetic that he think the DW is a viable CW mech.

Please quote where I said that.

I said it was competitive in comp drops..

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 12 May 2015 - 10:56 AM.

[Jack Spade Ward]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:49 AM, said:

That is almost the definition of Scatter Shot or Balance by Dart Board.

Every single CW event that PGI has held has had the Clans come out on top, both Tukayyid and Prove Your Allegiance. Both of these events have taken place after the changes that PGI thinks they need more data on.

There is no reason to be reducing IS combat effectiveness when looking at the data that PGI has provided.

And if you look at the statistics, youll see that, besides clan winning more, the IS killed more enemy mechs and did the most damage. How did the clans won? Simple, teamplay... and also 3 of the most competitive teams joined.
So, what makes one win in this game? Teamplay!!! Now that tukayid is over, they went back to IS. Why? Because their meta mechs are IS!
Listen, competitive teams only go for the meta, of any game! Dont care about my opinion nor yours, they care about winning and fighting against other comp teams. So they use what is meta, and that is IS mechs. As simple as that

[Jack Spade Ward]

Juodas Varnas, on 12 May 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

You're troling right?
You've got to be.

Playing against meta... YOU ARE THE META. CLAN LASER VOMIT IS THE META.

Clan inst the meta, but the only competitive build that can be put on a Timber is a laser vomit build. That said, what other clan mechs you see as meta? And beleive me, timbers arent quirked for lasers like...i dont know... the thunderbolt? The Stalker? The firestarter?
Teamplay wins games. Even agaisnt your meta mechs!

[Adamski]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:48 AM, said:

One thing i can agree with you, the stormcrow with 5 SSRM6 with CAB, thats the perfect light mech killer... if you fire in chain fire. Besides that, no clan mech, even the timber wolf, cant match with the IS meta mechs.

There is a reason why clan population dont play CW anymore, playing against the meta is challenging, but enough is enough.

PGI needs to unnerf clan tech, put clan tech more expensive. If the nerf keeps like this, at least give the clan players the option to change engines, jumpjets and all that IS can get. Or drop down the massive quirks of the IS mechs!

Dude, just stop.

Pull up Smurfy mechlab, and build an IS Meta Mech
Pull up the quirk list
Apply the listed quirks to the chassis DPS stats
You now have the quirked DPS
Apply the listed quirks to the weapon base range
You now have the quirked range

Now build a Clan Meta Mech
You now have a mech that can match the IS Meta Mech

Now you can stop hyperventilating on the forums about how OP the IS super quirks are.

[Juodas Varnas]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

Clan inst the meta, but the only competitive build that can be put on a Timber is a laser vomit build. That said, what other clan mechs you see as meta? And beleive me, timbers arent quirked for lasers like...i dont know... the thunderbolt? The Stalker? The firestarter?
Teamplay wins games. Even agaisnt your meta mechs!

You should stop licking the lead based paint you paint your mechs. It's affecting your brains, or whatever left of them.
Timbers are still the top mechs in-game even when compared to quirked IS mechs

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 12 May 2015 - 11:02 AM.