195 replies to this topic

[Skarlock]

Sadly, Faith was perma banned from the game for cheating using third party software. For someone who purported to be a champion of "equality" they sure didn't have any problems using underhanded means to gain in game advantages.

[Catalina Steiner]

Thanks for info, Skarlock and shame on her.
But her ban for cheating isn't the topic. Please stay on topic or this thread has no future. Thank you.

[Nightmare1]

Huh...the person who demanded so loudly for Gender Equality and Fair Representation doesn't believe in either concept when it comes to her personal actions.

Such a hypocrite. Good riddance!

[Evogenesis]

Regardless, just because Faith is not personally acting in accordance with her beliefs, this is not in itself an argument against the validity of those beliefs.

Edited by Evogenesis, 27 May 2015 - 12:20 PM.

[Nightmare1]

Evogenesis, on 27 May 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

Regardless, just because Faith is not personally acting in accordance with her beliefs, this is not in itself an argument against the validity of those beliefs.

Perhaps not, but it's ironic regardless and definitely decreases the argument's credence.

[Mirkk Defwode]

Faith McCarron, on 14 May 2015 - 03:42 AM, said:

...

Ariana Winston. Successful Commander of Task Force Serpent which raid the planet of Huntress during the Inner Sphere counter-attack of the clan war.

http://www.sarna.net.../Ariana_Winston

[KuroNyra]

Mirkk Defwode, on 27 May 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

Ariana Winston. Successful Commander of Task Force Serpent which raid the planet of Huntress during the Inner Sphere counter-attack of the clan war.

http://www.sarna.net.../Ariana_Winston

"Yeah but you see, she get killed at the very last moment right before the renforcement arrive to save the day! So it's basicly another assaut against Womens blablabla urhurhurh"

[CyclonerM]

KuroNyra, on 27 May 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

"Yeah but you see, she get killed at the very last moment right before the renforcement arrive to save the day! So it's basicly another assaut against Womens blablabla urhurhurh"

He reminds me a bit of Aidan Pryde.. But her death is more tragic. So i would say it is fine

[Mirkk Defwode]

KuroNyra, on 27 May 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

"Yeah but you see, she get killed at the very last moment right before the renforcement arrive to save the day! So it's basicly another assaut against Womens blablabla urhurhurh"

As I recall she died in a last stand to protect her troops. I'd say it was a valiant act despite the timing which was tragic in nature for it being right before the reinforcements arrived.

[Burktross]

0Carbon0, on 17 May 2015 - 09:24 PM, said:

SJW pls go.

Girls don't play with GI Joes.
Girls don't play MWO tabletop.

ergo

MWO lore isn't going to market to female players because they aren't the target market.

lrn2marketing. It's like saying men are under-represented in makeup commercials. totally different market.

Could've worded it less like a ****, but I can't say I disagree.

Edit: They changed Richard Cameron to stars? Shame.

That is, however, not a reason we can't at least try to expand the demographic.

Edited by Burktross, 27 May 2015 - 01:58 PM.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Burktross, on 27 May 2015 - 01:55 PM, said:

Could've worded it less like a ****, but I can't say I disagree.

Edit: They changed Richard Cameron to stars? Shame.

That is, however, not a reason we can't at least try to expand the demographic.

Expanding demographics is good. However, marketing patterns are better.

If your main consumer for X product is A demographic, why waste all the money in research, development, marketing, etc to reach a demographic that's unlikely to be a regular consumer for your product?

Sure, it's okay for consumers outside the given target demographic to buy. But to market specifically to a minority demographic is stupid.

For instance, I watch My Little Pony. It's target demographic is for little girls between 3 and 9. I have no expectations for Hasbro to market it to me. If Hasbro did indeed market it to my demographic (males aged 21-26) I'd call them an idiot for it because I'm a minority demographic.

[Kenyon Burguess]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 27 May 2015 - 03:24 PM, said:

Expanding demographics is good. However, marketing patterns are better.

If your main consumer for X product is A demographic, why waste all the money in research, development, marketing, etc to reach a demographic that's unlikely to be a regular consumer for your product?

times have changed. women in frontline combat, ponies that have well written adventures interesting enough to keep young boys attention, its all becoming interchangeable with regards to what kids like to play with. marketing can easily keep up with that by running one campaign focused on everyone and not two campaigns focused on two genders. all you have to do is show mechs in combat, have the mechwarriors be of different genders, and kids of both genders will be all over the IP again for little cost. mech combat sells itself.

[Tiamat of the Sea]

Geist Null, on 27 May 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

marketing can easily keep up with that by running one campaign focused on everyone and not two campaigns focused on two genders. all you have to do is show mechs in combat, have the mechwarriors be of different genders, and kids of both genders will be all over the IP again for little cost. mech combat sells itself.

Quoted for truth.

[Stickjock]

Catalina Steiner, on 27 May 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

Thanks for info, Skarlock and shame on her.
But her ban for cheating isn't the topic. Please stay on topic or this thread has no future. Thank you.

I will second this warning, please stay on topic everyone and keep the constructive discussion going otherwise this thread will be closed.

Thank you...

[Mazzyplz]

[redacted]


-there ARE many important females in BT already - some fighters, some political.
-if michael stackpole does not write female as lead character (kept repeating this), is because he is male, knows writing males, and even because he chooses to do so. it's his writing, it's his book. if you don't like it, write your own darn book.
-battletech has been geared towards an audience that was 90+% male in the 80s and 90s. and that's the time the books were written - the writers who were interested in writing for it were also male. should they have hired a female to write for something she didn't care about for "equal opportunity"? that's ludicrous.
-even female writers like J.K.Rowling write their leads as male sometimes (harry potter) why? to have more mass appeal. females will identify with male characters, but not viceversa. that's just the way it is, nature/nurture.. this hasn't been the subject of much research.


also mentions how females are treated poorly in conventions full of nerds who haven't taken a shower in years. conventions even well adjusted males would think twice about going to - and they are amazed when geeks look at them with drool in their mouth because all their life their hobbies have garnered this type of reaction from females:
http://cdn3.gurl.com...ted-hand-up.jpg
http://cdn2.gurl.com...sgustedgirl.jpg
and belittled for it.
and all of a sudden, OVERNIGHT, these same girls show up in princess leia cosplay as the ultimate fandom- and the geeks are expected to immediately know how to talk to women. excepting some legitimate misoginists like frank miller / michael bay. most of them just are awkward and can't help it

[redacted]

Edited by Catalina Steiner, 29 May 2015 - 01:35 AM.

[Nightmare1]

I agree with Mazzy; this thread needs to die.

[NextGame]

lol, this thread.

I'm glad I got to see a SJW getting banned from something (albeit for reasons other than this thread), makes a nice change from being villified for being a gamer.

best thing ive seen all day.

[Egomane]

Nightmare1, on 28 May 2015 - 04:49 AM, said:

I agree with Mazzy; this thread needs to die.

The thread was fine. The accusations and off-topic posts in this thread on the last pages are the things that need to die. These posts are the reasons that this thread is going downhill and everyone who posted in such a fashion (which sadly now includes me) should be ashamed over his behavior. There might be a cheater in this thread but the ones derailing this thread because of it are not better in any way.

[Nightmare1]

Egomane, on 28 May 2015 - 04:54 AM, said:

The thread was fine. The accusations and off-topic posts in this thread on the last pages are the things that need to die. These posts are the reasons that this thread is going downhill and everyone who posted in such a fashion (which sadly now includes me) should be ashamed over his behavior. There might be a cheater in this thread but the ones derailing this thread because of it are not better in any way.

Callling the thread out for what it is (a sham) isn't something to be sad about. What's sad is that there are people determined to perpetuate the sham's legacy.

So, go start a new thread on the same topic. It will be more sincere and won't have any fakes of the OP's caliber in it. This one should be closed.

Edit: If it's not closed, then you know that detractors will continue to derail it. Face it, it's K-Town or death for this thread now; there are no other options. Funny thing is, it's really the OP's fault.

Edited by Nightmare1, 28 May 2015 - 04:58 AM.

[STEF_]

Faith McCarron, on 14 May 2015 - 03:42 AM, said:

Natasha Kerensky: This is the big one I always hear. "But what about Natasha Kerensky? She's the Black Widow, and black widows eat men!". In reality, Natasha is probably one of the worst offenders. She wasn't even thrown into the mix as a political leader or military figure so much as she was just thrown in as a sex symbol. Let's have a red-head run around in leather pants, what could be more stereotypical than that? It's often mentioned that she underwent cosmetic surgery, because, well, we can't have the black widow not looking hot, right? And if there is any doubt, I'll just say:



I mean, how do those things even stay on??? Anyone?

When I saw this thread a couple of weeks ago, I lolled and moved on.
But since now the server has unplayable ping and lag, and this OP is in the list, I have the time to write something.

Wanna know why I chose Stefka Kerensky?

Natasha is the coolest character in BT world, imo. So, I chose this nick to be a trothkin of her, many years ago, while playing MW roleplay.
Look at this face:


Does she seem a sexsymbol, dbag cheater?

After her lover death, "Natasha Kerensky over the edge and turned the already formidable MechWarrior to a cocky, sometimes almost suicidal lifestyle on and off the battlefield for decades to come. Like her entire Black Widow command of criminals and discipline cases she displayed borderline psychotic behavior and could kill at a whim, inside or outside her Warhammer. Violent barfights that could even result in deaths occurred regularly".

She was seeking to die, losing, in this way, any fear of death.

Natasha is the coolest character.

So, what I think, is that you are a know nothing cheater.
Gladly you are not here anymore.
Period.