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If Pgi Made "premium" Versions Of Every Chassis And Variant Available, Would You Buy Them?


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#101 Taffer

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:00 PM

I will never activate my premium time. It is worthless.

Unless.....they let me activate it one day at a time.

Still, I'd like to change my favorite mechs to have cb bonus.

#102 Fleeb the Mad

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 03:54 PM

I dunno about anyone else, but the reason I don't buy champions of mechs I like is because I normally need to have the mech and use it before I figure out if I like it.

But if there's a champion of something I love, like my Stalker 3F, why would I buy a second "special" chassis and duplicate something I already have? It requires me to waste all I've invested in the one I've got because sell prices are pretty awful.

It would actually be much simpler to get rid of the 'Champion' designation altogether and let people pay something to add the C-bill bonus to things they already have. Yes Vote.

#103 Burktross

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:09 PM

View PostFleeb the Mad, on 23 May 2015 - 03:54 PM, said:

It would actually be much simpler to get rid of the 'Champion' designation altogether and let people pay something to add the C-bill bonus to things they already have. Yes Vote.

Baby steps, friend. Baby steps. :D

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:37 PM

I like your general idea. Not re-buying your mech with a c-bill boost though. I have a tweak to your idea.

I haven't read all the replies so i don't know if anyone has said this, but;

PGI could just slap a button in the skill tree for each mech at the bottom, under the extra module slot when you master a mech. It'd cost the equlivent of, say, maybe 5 dollars (in MC, obviously), give or take however PGI decides, that just slaps a 30%+ c-bill bonus on your mech. No need for any extra mech-bays, or re-building your mech or any of that, just upgrading your mech to give the bonus after you master it.

I'd buy it.

Edited by WatDo, 23 May 2015 - 05:42 PM.


#105 Burktross

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:41 PM

View PostWatDo, on 23 May 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

I like your general idea. Not re-buying your mech with a c-bill boost though. I have a tweak to your idea.

I haven't read all the replies so i don't know if anyone has said this, but;

PGI could just slap a button in the skill tree for each mech at the bottom, under the extra module slot when you master a mech. It'd cost the equlivent of, say, maybe 5 dollars, give or take however PGI decides, that just slaps a 30%+ c-bill bonus on your mech. No need for any extra mech-bays, or re-building your mech or any of that, just upgrading your mech to give the bonus after you master it.

I'd buy it.

Yes. We've gone over this several times throughout the thread and come to the consensus that it would cost a few hundred less than the chassis' hero, and you could buy it alone, or upgrade it for an even lower cost.

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:52 PM

View PostBurktross, on 23 May 2015 - 05:41 PM, said:

Yes. We've gone over this several times throughout the thread and come to the consensus that it would cost a few hundred less than the chassis' hero, and you could buy it alone, or upgrade it for an even lower cost.


Sweet. That'd get a few more bucks from me anyway. >.>

#107 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 06:38 PM

View PostWatDo, on 23 May 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:


Sweet. That'd get a few more bucks from me anyway. >.>

I think it would be a few bucks from a lot of people. Pretty sure most Comp, CW and Team Players would love to see their STK-4N, TDR-5SS or FS9 get a grind boost.

And even if it didn't sell like hotcakes...how much time and resources would it take PGI to implement? Essentially none.

#108 Tincan Nightmare

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:07 PM

To make this simple they could just add a c-bill bonus to champion mechs, and create an MC cost to 'upgrade' a mech to champion status. Then people could either just purchase a champion mech outright, or if they have the same basic variant 'upgrade' it at a later time to get the money boost. Thanks to the various events I have more than a few champion mechs floating around the mech bay, would love if they started earning better money.

As additional incentive to 'upgrade' (or just buy a champion outright), also allow them to convert excess exp into c-bills, say at a 4 to 1 ratio or so. Now that extra exp boost has a very big advantage even once a mech has been mastered.

#109 Evan20k

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:13 PM

You don't know how badly I want to upgrade my BLR-1G, WHK-B, and my entire Banshee lineup.

#110 Ted Wayz

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 09:08 PM

And now you are making decisions on PGI resource allocation and deciding their resource capabilities. Wow.

They can't even split accounts or move items yet you imagine that with little or no effort they will be able to re-code their bonuses to be selective instead of general or already hard wired on a mech. What else do you think they can do with very little effort? Maybe end world hunger and solve world peace?

And I love your price models. "A few extra dollars" or "for a little bit more". Now that is some market planning if I ever heard it. Do you have any real information to base all your assumptions on? Or is the last business you ran involve lemonade?

But to answer your questions, yes I would buy one. But then I buy everything. Do I think I will ever see it in-game? Only if PGI decides to change their whole business model of Hero mechs, packs and premium time based upon a forum post with very little response.

#111 Duke Nedo

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 10:06 PM

Yes, but not 30%, that would obsolete most of the existing bad hardpoint heroes we paid real cash for... 20% would need cool.

Edited by Duke Nedo, 23 May 2015 - 10:06 PM.


#112 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 10:30 PM

View PostDuke Nedo, on 23 May 2015 - 10:06 PM, said:

Yes, but not 30%, that would obsolete most of the existing bad hardpoint heroes we paid real cash for... 20% would need cool.

does PGI really seem to care about what is or is not obsolete?

#113 Y E O N N E

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 11:40 PM

I would buy a CPLT-K2, BJ-1X, BJ-3, LCT-1E, and LCT-1M with C-bill bonuses. Those are all of my "work" 'Mechs that I use when I want to actually win games and farm C-bills. The Arrow is also one of those 'Mechs, but as a Hero it already gets the 30% C-bill bonus. :P

#114 627

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 01:11 AM

hmm...

mastery upgrade - once you mastered your mech of choice, you can pay a onetime fee to truely show your dedication to this machine. The mech wil get a (M) designation and you'll get a 30%cbill boost. This is not reversible or portable.


sounds fine to me, the price should be like heros, so 150mc/ton or what it is.

#115 Duke Nedo

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 02:00 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 23 May 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

does PGI really seem to care about what is or is not obsolete?


Well... yes (DRG-1N) and no (DRG-5N)... :) anyways, I think they could stir up a lot of tears about refund this or refund that if they change the setting in which heroes where purchased now. The have the right to do it sure but I don't think they can in practice... but perhaps 20% would be possible?

#116 Templar Dane

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 04:06 AM

IMO PGI should focus on the whole micro transaction part of these games. 50 bucks for an atlas? pfft They're supposed to nickel and dime us to death, not mug us in an alley.

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 07:26 AM

View Postlordtzar, on 24 May 2015 - 04:06 AM, said:

IMO PGI should focus on the whole micro transaction part of these games. 50 bucks for an atlas? pfft They're supposed to nickel and dime us to death, not mug us in an alley.

Must be talking that canadian funny money..... it's about 35 USD...which is still overpriced. Premium "Mastery" Atlas would be about 20$ USD in my model.

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 07:34 AM

View PostTed Wayz, on 23 May 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

And now you are making decisions on PGI resource allocation and deciding their resource capabilities. Wow.

What? We're not yelling, "PGI, MAKE IT SO OR BOYCOTT!!!11"

View PostTed Wayz, on 23 May 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

What else do you think they can do with very little effort? Maybe end world hunger and solve world peace?

The proportion. You blew it.

View PostTed Wayz, on 23 May 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

And I love your price models. "A few extra dollars" or "for a little bit more". Now that is some market planning if I ever heard it. Do you have any real information to base all your assumptions on? Or is the last business you ran involve lemonade?

We're leaving it vague because in the end [if there is one] PGI would be better suited to decide the specifics.

View PostTed Wayz, on 23 May 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

Only if PGI decides to change their whole business model of Hero mechs, packs and premium time based upon a forum post with very little response.

Letting people pay more money while keeping the old stuff won't revolutionize the entire system.

View PostDuke Nedo, on 24 May 2015 - 02:00 AM, said:


Well... yes (DRG-1N) and no (DRG-5N)... :) anyways, I think they could stir up a lot of tears about refund this or refund that if they change the setting in which heroes where purchased now. The have the right to do it sure but I don't think they can in practice... but perhaps 20% would be possible?

I suppose there'd be some salt over the issue, but what makes the mech a hero is the paint and the hardpoints, really.

Edited by Burktross, 24 May 2015 - 07:32 AM.


#119 SgtMagor

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 07:58 AM

hmm, I would prefer to call it a black market upgrade, you can buy anything at the Black Market for the right price!

#120 Burktross

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 08:06 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 24 May 2015 - 07:58 AM, said:

hmm, I would prefer to call it a black market upgrade, you can buy anything at the Black Market for the right price!

Muh consistency





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