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[Andi Nagasia]

Added

=Mirrored Omni Challenge=
what Pods would you have Mirrored?
how would you Build your Mirrored Mech?
Post the Builds you would make!

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MDD
A-LT= 3SRM6(25shots)
A-RT= 3SRM6(25shots)
B-RA= 3ER-ML 3SPL +2DHS
B-M-LA= 3ER-ML 3SPL +2DHS

WHK
C-RT= +3DHS
B-RA= 2LPL 1ER-ML +2DHS
B-M-LA= 2LPL 1ER-ML +2DHS

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 19 July 2015 - 06:11 PM.

[Escef]

Andi Nagasia, on 19 July 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

Edit-
MDD
A-LT= 3SRM6(25shots)
A-RT= 3SRM6(25shots)
B-RA= 3ER-ML +2DHS
B-M-LA= 3ER-ML +2DHS

I run a SplatDog with 36SRMs and 4xERML, and it can run really hot. You want to try it with 6xERML? Pfft, ok, have fun with that.

[Andi Nagasia]

Escef, on 19 July 2015 - 05:35 PM, said:

I run a SplatDog with 36SRMs and 4xERML, and it can run really hot. You want to try it with 6xERML? Pfft, ok, have fun with that.

how about 6SPL?

[Escef]

Andi Nagasia, on 19 July 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:

how about 6SPL?

I suppose it might work, but now you've got no ability to engage past 330 meters. That's really short range.

[Evan20k]

I see this being extremely broken with the HBR, TBR-A shoulder and WHK.

Edited by Evan20k, 19 July 2015 - 09:42 PM.

[SaltBeef]

Some torso weapon options on the Mist lynx would be saweeeet.

[Vellron2005]

I think hardpoint mirroring would further disbalance the game, and provide many new options for old mechs, and some for new ones (for instance, equiping both torsos on a timberwolf with TBR-A left laser womit torso), and the IS players would immediately go wee-wee over this..

So.. no.

Edited by Vellron2005, 20 July 2015 - 01:07 AM.

[Widowmaker1981]

Would be shockingly unbalanced for various mechs, so no. bad plan stan.

[Joseph Mallan]

Mcgral18, on 23 May 2015 - 09:51 AM, said:

6 MG Cute Fox? I'd be fine with that.



DUAL ECM!

What effect would that have on the Jesus Box?

2 ECMs would override one ECM in counter or have one ECM in each mode!

[Andi Nagasia]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 July 2015 - 03:15 AM, said:

2 ECMs would override one ECM in counter or have one ECM in each mode!

i think it would be better as a 2 & 2,
in Disrupt Mode, Enemies need 2 Counters to Counter,
in Counter Mode, it can Counter 2 Enemy ECM Systems,
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Edited by Andi Nagasia, 02 August 2015 - 04:02 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

Evan20k, on 19 July 2015 - 09:42 PM, said:

I see this being extremely broken with the HBR, TBR-A shoulder and WHK.

True but then again you would have the doubled Penalties as well,

the First PTS Teaser showed the TBR-A(LT) with Huge mobility Nerfs,
so with that Stacking TBR-A(LTs) would be possible but would hurt greatly,

[LordNothing]

there are a few that would be downright evil. like that 3 laser madcat torso. can you imagine people running around with 6 high erlls?

[DAYLEET]

Andi Nagasia, on 23 May 2015 - 08:56 AM, said:

in Lore OmniMechs could Equip An Omnipod to any location in an OmniMech,

The more i learn about lore, the less i like it. They never even tried to make sense.

[Andi Nagasia]

LordNothing, on 23 September 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

there are a few that would be downright evil. like that 3 laser madcat torso. can you imagine people running around with 6 high erlls?

ya but heat on that would be Stupid, wow,
also if the PTS is anything to go off of i do think the TBR-A(LT) got -15TurnAngle -20%TurnRate,
which would put it at 60*TurnAngle @ -40%TurnRate(which which would give the TBR the Stats of a DWF),

DAYLEET, on 23 September 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

The more i learn about lore, the less i like it. They never even tried to make sense.

well the balance was that weapons where locked into the Pods and couldnt be removed,
so you could put a MDD-A(LT)(3SRM6) in any OmniMech, but it would have those SRM6s locked,

Chuck YeaGurr, on 23 September 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

Chuck YeaGurr, on 23 May 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

Balance

If you do not understand, I can not explain it without writing more than most graduate level papers

Amen brother Amen.
Lore helps us have pretty robots and saves PGI money not having to write a story line, but damn it really screws up the most basic elements of balancing a video game.

this idea could be easily balanced with proper pod Quirks,
wait a second, did you just quote your self and remark as to another?
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Edited by Andi Nagasia, 23 September 2015 - 11:37 AM.

[Big Tin Man]

What a horrifically bad idea. The frankenbuilds we could come up with:

Mirror the Exe-D, 18 energy points. Constant 6xCERML fire, no ghost heat. Essentially a 42 pt. alpha every second until it melts.

DWF-A LT-- 4 missile points, with the potential to carry 9 E and 2 B on top of that with prime arms and A CT. Running LRM 80, you could have a 173 point alpha with some ghost heat.

Stormcrow with 14 energy points. Nova confirmed useless.

[Kira Onime]

LordNothing, on 23 September 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

there are a few that would be downright evil. like that 3 laser madcat torso. can you imagine people running around with 6 high erlls?

Enjoy cooking yourself

[LordNothing]

no thank you, im not really much of a madcat fan. too much emphasis on lasers. not enough pod space for the mixed loadouts its supposed to carry, and not enough tonnage to have much fun with its ballistic slots.

[Andi Nagasia]

Big Tin Man, on 23 September 2015 - 12:56 PM, said:

What a horrifically bad idea. The frankenbuilds we could come up with:

Mirror the Exe-D, 18 energy points. Constant 6xCERML fire, no ghost heat. Essentially a 42 pt. alpha every second until it melts.

DWF-A LT-- 4 missile points, with the potential to carry 9 E and 2 B on top of that with prime arms and A CT. Running LRM 80, you could have a 173 point alpha with some ghost heat.

Stormcrow with 14 energy points. Nova confirmed useless.

ok yes this would help those mechs but its not as bad as all that,

Mirrored EXE-D? 18Energy? 18ER-ML?
super hot and their are much better weapon options, Maxes out at 24DHS,
a 10ER-ML Nova runs with 20DHS and -10%ER-ML heat, so i think even a Nova would be better,

a 4-5M DWF? LRM90(4LRM20 + 1LRM10) and then 9ER-ML for Space savings,
first off firing all the LRMs would be super hot think firing 3ER-PPCs hot,
also they are LRMs so its not 90PP damage, also with all that and 9ER-ML which would also be hot,
you will run out of space before Tonnage so there is that, their are much better DWF out there Builds,

14Energy SCR? Nova confirmed useless?
you do realize that you can already get 13E on a SCR, so if so +1E wont now make the Nova Useless,
so in that case their isnt really a problem because the SCR can already to all that already,

LordNothing, on 23 September 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

no thank you, im not really much of a madcat fan. too much emphasis on lasers. not enough pod space for the mixed loadouts its supposed to carry, and not enough tonnage to have much fun with its ballistic slots.

well their are other OmniMechs this would help,
=Ex=
MLX-A RA(1E-2B)(for the LA)(+2B)
KFX-C LA(2E-2B)(for the RA)(+2B)
NVA-C LT(1M)(for the RT)(+1M)
IFR-C LT(1M)(for the RT)(+1M)
MDD-B RA(3E)(for the LA)(+1E)
SMN-P LT(1M)(for the RT)(+1M)
HBR-A LA(2E)(for the RA)(+1E)
GAR-C RA(6E)(for the LA)(+2E)
WHK-B RA(3E)(for the LA)(+1E)
WHK-A LA(2E-1M)(for the RA)(+1M)
DWF-A LT(2M)(for the RT)(+2M)

this would help alot of the mechs that could use help,
and if your worried about 2TBR-A-LT on a TBR, and other things like that,

Andi Nagasia, on 23 September 2015 - 11:33 AM, said:

ya but heat on that would be Stupid, wow,
also if the PTS is anything to go off of i do think the TBR-A(LT) got -15TurnAngle -20%TurnRate,
which would put it at 60*TurnAngle @ -40%TurnRate(which which would give the TBR the Stats of a DWF),

[Andi Nagasia]

Updated the Topic
Added ECM Balance Change,
as well as some New Parts to some OmniMechs,

Such as the
=ShadowCat=
SHC-Prime RT(1E)(for the LT)(+1E)
SHC-A RT(1M)(for the LT)(+1M)
SHC-P LA(3B)(for the RA)(+2B)
SHC-P LT(3B)(for the RT)(+3B)

4Energy +2Missileson a SHC,
2Energy +4Missiles on a SHC,
12Ballistic(MGs) on a SHC!
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Edited by Andi Nagasia, 24 September 2015 - 05:01 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

i still think this idea has Merit,
and it is Lore Friendly,