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[MechWarrior5152251]

Executioner has its guns down by its ankles. The most important thing for a mech is how high its weapons are mounted....

[MeiSooHaityu]

MechWarrior5152251, on 11 June 2015 - 05:21 AM, said:

Executioner has its guns down by its ankles. The most important thing for a mech is how high its weapons are mounted....

And that is one of the important reasons why the Urbie kicks so much @$$.

Well that and 360° torso twist and a whole lot of charm

[Bishop Steiner]

MechWarrior5152251, on 11 June 2015 - 05:21 AM, said:

Executioner has its guns down by its ankles. The most important thing for a mech is how high its weapons are mounted....

tell that to my Centy in chat, after it kills ya.

[The Great Unwashed]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 June 2015 - 05:19 AM, said:

Much better; those eye protection flaps have to be ST or you can hit the CT from the full front 180 degree arc. Now the STs also cover the ST hardpoints and that would make sense. The cockpit is a bit exposed with a good change of a twin Gauss instagib... it will be the aiming spot if you want to CT this mech. I hope the cockpit box with be of the same size as the side windows, so, a bit less high that this...

Edited by The Great Unwashed, 11 June 2015 - 05:45 AM.

[Hit the Deck]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 June 2015 - 05:28 AM, said:

tell that to my Centy in chat, after it kills ya.

Well, Cent's right gun arm is actually not that low relative to the cockpit from where you see.



Also, it's usually configured as a brawler which its low slung hardpoint doesn't matter. That's why I think Mr. Exe is most suited to brawling as opposed to play at range because it has most of its firepower on the arms.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 11 June 2015 - 05:36 AM.

[Widowmaker1981]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 June 2015 - 05:19 AM, said:

great catch, but that actually implies really bad STs then..... hmmmmm

not sure if that would be any better..... sure the CT would last....but...... no ct or H weapons.... mmmmmmmm

Yeah, thats my main worry for the Exe to be honest, along with the backpack that the concept art has, no image of the model has shown us how huge (or not) it is.

The other really fugging annoying thing is the giant shield arm is the arm you dont want to be losing because its the one with the crazytown 7E hardpoints (and the good torso HPs are also right side). The side i WANT to use as a shield.. doesn't have a shield.

My verdict is it will be vastly better than the Gargoyle, but still not on the same level as a Banshee, not even close.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

MeiSooHaityu, on 11 June 2015 - 05:25 AM, said:

And that is one of the important reasons why the Urbie kicks so much @$$.

Well that and 360° torso twist and a whole lot of charm

0-64 bjatchhh

[MeiSooHaityu]

Titannium, on 11 June 2015 - 05:39 AM, said:

0-64 bjatchhh

I tried giving you some ideas in another thread, you just need to change up your builds a bit .

[August55]

Executioner's the goofiest looking mech right after the Gargoyle's Santa variant.

I may get Wave 3, but not now. Probably getting Resistance 2 if I feel like doing a pledge pack again.

Hopefully Wave 4 involves ye ol Kodiak. That'll eat my wallet right up.

Edited by August55, 11 June 2015 - 06:11 AM.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

I'm very excited about the Executioner. It is is that odd place where things either outperform it at near the same tonnage or have similar performance at greatly reduced tonnage so I doubt its going to change the tier lists much. However, It has some interesting mobility equipment, 95 ton mech armor, and the weapons load out of a Timber Wolf.

The Executioner will probably become my new pug/group queue ride... just don't know how I'm going to break it to my Gargoyle yet.

[Water Bear]

Widowmaker1981, on 11 June 2015 - 05:38 AM, said:

Yeah, thats my main worry for the Exe to be honest, along with the backpack that the concept art has, no image of the model has shown us how huge (or not) it is.

The other really fugging annoying thing is the giant shield arm is the arm you dont want to be losing because its the one with the crazytown 7E hardpoints (and the good torso HPs are also right side). The side i WANT to use as a shield.. doesn't have a shield.

My verdict is it will be vastly better than the Gargoyle, but still not on the same level as a Banshee, not even close.

I was wondering about that. The arm does look almost inner-sphere-humanoid in its scale / ability to protect the body from fire, but if that's where all the energy hardpoints are then you're going to end up with DRG-1N syndrome. Perhaps they did that on purpose in an effort to balance? Hard to believe given how ultra-meh the Gargoyle is, and the Exe is basically what happens when you put a bike pump on the Gargoyle's toe and pump for a few days.

I will say that it looks very true to the original design, which is very cool. Not sure what it's going to do to really put 95 tons of fear in me, though.

Then again super high mobility has become a popular play style these days, with mechs like the Gargoyle running with the mediums surprisingly well as they flank assaults. Perhaps the Exe could be the tank or true assault mech for that super fast play style?

[Revis Volek]

Paigan, on 11 June 2015 - 04:29 AM, said:

1.)
Please don't write whole novels into a thread title.
It's unnecessary annoying, confusing and therefore unsocial behavior.

2.)
Let me once again post my usual paragraph:

Please stop using the term meta to express "overpowered". It means "after" / "beyond" / "above" in an ABSTRACT way (like meta study or meta gaming), NOT just "super" on some measuring scale.
From an objective point of view, everyone not getting the abstract nature of the term must be considered stupid.
I don't care if that includes 90% of the MWO community.
Speak for yourselves.

Oh s%$t guys.....the Forum Fun Police are here!

Get a life dude...

OP,

I am excited for the executioner, i think its hit boxes will be pretty good not great but they seem ok (live fire will tell). He is very leggy and the arms seems like they cover the ST's well but that CT hitbox is a little questionable i will agree. I hope MASC works well and that construction rules dont kill it.

bad arcade kitty, on 11 June 2015 - 04:24 AM, said:

and that seems to be a worse kit fox, lol

Um wut?

Other then their speed and they both carry ECM what are you talking about?

[Templar Dane]

A 95 ton mech with..............24 tons of pod space? Meh

[reign]

lordtzar, on 11 June 2015 - 06:52 AM, said:

A 95 ton mech with..............24 tons of pod space? Meh

With MASC and JUMP jets locked in place yeah. D torso and Laser vomit will be good though. (theory) depends on how high they are.

[Revis Volek]

Titannium, on 11 June 2015 - 05:39 AM, said:

0-64 bjatchhh

0-64 what?

My Urbies are some of my best performing IS lights....you are doing it wrong if that is ANY of your stats.

[Juodas Varnas]

reign, on 11 June 2015 - 06:56 AM, said:

With MASC and JUMP jets locked in place yeah. D torso and Laser vomit will be good though. (theory) depends on how high they are.

Well, if Hover Jets^TM were fixed, i'm sure people wouldn't be complaining about them being locked. Since you know - they'd be useful.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 11 June 2015 - 07:02 AM.

[Maxx Blue]

Looks like I would have the same problem with this mech that I do with my ENF-4R...I'd have to learn to turn left. I'm not an ambi-turner. I blame it on years of victors, cents and hunchbacks, but I pretty much automatically twist to the right to shield with my left. That and it sure has a whole lot of weight tied up in JJ's that probably won't do much. It does look pretty cool though.

Now what I really, REALLY want is to see what Alex could do with the Kodiak. Playing it would be nice, but I mostly just want him to do his thing and see what it looks like...come to think of it, does he do commissions?

Edited by Maxx Blue, 11 June 2015 - 07:07 AM.

[Templar Dane]

reign, on 11 June 2015 - 06:56 AM, said:

With MASC and JUMP jets locked in place yeah. D torso and Laser vomit will be good though. (theory) depends on how high they are.

I wonder how much they'll nerf that 7E right arm pod when it comes out for cbills.

[Nick86]

I decided not to buy the Executioner pack as soon as I saw the gimpy arms. I'm fed up of the low slung dung as it is thanks. Looks like a huge target to me.

[Hit the Deck]

Maxx Blue, on 11 June 2015 - 07:06 AM, said:

Looks like I would have the same problem with this mech that I do with my ENF-4R...I'd have to learn to turn left. I'm not an ambi-turner. I blame it on years of victors, cents and hunchbacks, but I pretty much automatically twist to the right to shield with my left.
....

And because (right-handed) people unconsciously run counterclockwise so you automatically shield with your left.