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[DragonArmour]

They are similar Mechs, both intended for Anti-Air fire as well as mech combat. The standard Rifleman is equiped with 2 a/c 5s and 2 Large Lasers though and had heat issues.

[Melcyna]

Hmmm it does seems to draw some elements from Riflemen, or rather the Defender Destroid...

But it's sufficiently different enough that i don't see any problem with the design...

Edited by Melcyna, 06 July 2012 - 04:33 AM.

[mechsae]

Okay, here's the rundown of the pictures folks

Defender Destroid:

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RifleMan:

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JagerMech

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JagerMech MWO:

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Link to JagerMech sarna.net page
Link to Rifleman sarna.net page

Similar enough.

[Dark Fury]

Oh this looks a real pain in the butt. Stupid sniper Mech.

[Name48928]

Tyr Anasazi, on 05 July 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

Rip out the AC5's and their ammo add 2 Large Lasers...

Then you'll need to buy the Jagermech variant that has energy hardpoints instead of ballistic hardpoints. Assuming PGI creates such a variant.

[Kraven Kor]

MinionJoe, on 06 July 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Then you'll need to buy the Jagermech variant that has energy hardpoints instead of ballistic hardpoints. Assuming PGI creates such a variant.

You'll also need some double heat sinks.

I tried using only standard IS stuff and you just can't do it with any kind of heat efficiency.

[Kraven Kor]

Yeah, best I can do with a stock Jagermech is:

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Movement: 4/6
Engine: 260
Heat Sinks: 19
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 104
Armor: 96/211

AC/2 - RA
AC/2 - LA
Large Laser - RA
Large Laser - LA

AC/2 Ammo - RT
AC/2 Ammo - LT

Can dump ammo for a medium laser, or another ton of armor (my pick.)

[Cidrich Syslet]

Jagermech made by Jagermeister. This Mech just jumped into my top 5 list of Mechs I want in game.

[Damion Sparhawk]

Kraven Kor, on 06 July 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

Yeah, best I can do with a stock Jagermech is:



Can dump ammo for a medium laser, or another ton of armor (my pick.)

personally I wouldn't dump long range potential on a very lightly armored mech in favor of a medium range weapon (which puts you that much closer to certain doom) about the only use it would likely ever see is that last burst of fire when someone sneaks up on you

[Kraven Kor]

Yes, but I'd rather have something to fall back on than nothing. And no, opting to blow your reactor when they are close is not a good backup plan.

Pretty much every mech I have ever built or customized has had the ol' default of "at least 2 medium lasers."

[wanderer]

Rioter, on 05 July 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Thx but no thx. Cata is a way better - more ammo and jump jets.

Stock Catapults have 8 shots per launcher. So does a -A Jagermech.

And if I'm busy pegging people at that range, I'm not popping up on jets to get drilled by everyone else, anyway.

[wanderer]

Alexander Johannisburg, on 05 July 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

the pair of Gauss rifles would eat up almost all of your available tonnage, meaning you'd be naked in protracted battles, faster than with 4ac's plus the increased weight starts to get in the way of mounting any energy weapons, which leaves you naked (again) in closer combat.

It's quite doable with modern tech. The AC/5 + AC/2 is 14 tons right there. Drop both pairs, swap to an XL engine. You get two Gauss with 16 shots each, the ML's, and 9.5 tons of armor. Not heavy armor, but definitely an improvement.

[Kraven Kor]

I really do hope they do something with ammo in regards to the armor thing. Maybe not "double ammo" but maybe +25 to 50 percent per ton. Something.

On tabletop, most engagements did not last long enough to run out of ammo on the mid-range weapons - LRM-20's and AC/20's, and Gauss, sure - like 6 shots per ton. But usually by "turn 8" most mechs are slag; at least in small to medium size battles. Unless you are missing a lot due to terrain or cover or just bad luck.

In video games, things work a bit differently. And I don't want to be running around in 65 tons of walking target with just two medium lasers lol.

[Damion Sparhawk]

Kraven Kor, on 06 July 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

Yes, but I'd rather have something to fall back on than nothing. And no, opting to blow your reactor when they are close is not a good backup plan.

Pretty much every mech I have ever built or customized has had the ol' default of "at least 2 medium lasers."

I always have an energy fallback, I just would prefer my fallback to be viable if not at my max range, at least close enough that I can fire it periodically before retreating to keep my distance. 2 ML's that never get used in a battle would make an awful lot of extra armor or ammo, where one LL might at least get a shot in every now and then, and if I'm reduced to nothing but the LL at least I can keep some distance without being at risk of not being able to fire at close targets XD (though I might go with two ML's depending on firing rate, I would absolutely upgrade to a LPL the instant I am able to however.)

[Denemigo]

rifleman?! omg

[carl kerensky]

Being an AC fan Im pumped about piloting his mech. Ya baby..
Ck

[Damion Sparhawk]

Denemigo, on 06 July 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

rifleman?! omg

not quite, but close.

[Ragnek]

Soon as I saw the pic, I thought that. Reminded me of the Activision DOS version of the Rifleman and the old pictures of the battletech games ive seen (never played it though).

[Jesterhead 777]

Definitely my style of Mech!

[Grimm Gunn]

I want a JagerMech !!!!!!
Damn I love those AC's and the damage they do !!!