279 replies to this topic

[Zensei]

Sometimes you have to shut down to explain to all your dead team mates why you are still alive.

[Mystere]

Slepnir, on 20 June 2015 - 06:56 AM, said:

Dude drop the straw man argument NOBODY does that and you know it.

Let idiots remain idiots.

a hacker, on 20 June 2015 - 08:56 AM, said:

Yes it's normal.

Stop powering down like a **** and fight.

Who are you to dictate to anyone else how to play?

[White Bear 84]

cdlord, on 19 June 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:

Both sides should report each other and let the mods sort it out.

I choose trial by combat!

[Soulscour]

That was not really a good lurming position on that map. If you want to maximize damage, better would be farther down the corridor to the open left side of the map where nobody goes. from there, you have little cover but in order for them to approach they have no cover either, which maximizes your ability to spam LRMs. From your current position you're lucky to get 1 volley in before they make it to cover. Also based on that and your in game chat, I would have revealed your position as well.

Edited by Soulscour, 20 June 2015 - 05:21 PM.

[Mystere]

White Bear 84, on 20 June 2015 - 05:12 PM, said:

I choose trial by combat!

Only if you fight it yourself, and not choose a champion to fight for you.

[Mr Hunter]

I say challenge the remaining hostiles to a duel or ambush them. Oh hey that exactly what you were doing... carry on I support you! the power down button exists for a reason if you dont like it go walk out of your dropship in high orbit and save us the trouble!.

Edited by B8hunter, 20 June 2015 - 05:21 PM.

[Barkem Squirrel]

Is shutting down the mech an exceptable tactic? Yes!


It is the fastest way to reduce heat.

It prevents enemy players from detecting you in an over watch position until they move away into a more advantageous engagement position.

Scouting and reporting via VOIP on what you see and relying on camouflage to protect you.

To find a hidey hole or destroyed mech to get in or next to and allow the other team to walk right past you.


This is one tactic, of powering down your mech, is one that many players are totally ignorant of. So ignorant players will just assume that a player is just protecting the KDR because most people do that. Then start telling the other team where that person is totally screwing his plans over. How do I know this, that is how I play. Some times it allows you to get another kill, more damage or even win the match if you are very lucky. It takes more time, but if someone does that I will put his name on a list to kill off first in any match I or some friends see him on the other team. If he is on the same team I can inform the team over VOIP that he likes to give out locations.

[Navy Sixes]

Barkem Squirrel, on 20 June 2015 - 07:54 PM, said:

Some times it allows you to get another kill, more damage or even win the match if you are very lucky.

This is exactly what I'm trying to get across. What's more, once you get to a certain level of play, this kind of no-win scenario is just the epic challenge you're looking for. When you pull it off, it's the kind of win you'll start a post about in the "Barracks" forum. It's the kind of win that gets you those shiny titles you're chasing. It's the kind of win that lets you and everyone who bears witness that your mech-fu is stronk.

If the dead skrubs on your team don't want to help you salvage the match that they blew, early and hard... man, f*$k those porkchops. They're haters who say they're trying to save time, but the truth is they didn't win and they aren't playing, so they don't want you to win. They don't want you to play.

Someday, if these skrub-types spectate and learn enough, say no to drugs, stay in school, drink their milk, and eat their Wheaties, they'll get good enough to be the last man standing on a PUG team that got wasted in the first 5 with 3+ enemy mechs left. They'll know what it feels like to sweat bullets while the enemy passes 25 meters from their powered-down mech. They'll know what it feels like to take a deep breath, power up, and get down.

Until then, all they'll know is how to ruin the game for the people who know how to play it.

[White Bear 84]

Mystere, on 20 June 2015 - 05:15 PM, said:

Only if you fight it yourself, and not choose a champion to fight for you.

Can I chose the new Clan Champion?

[Hardac]

You failed to announce your intentions and got called out as a trolling jerk. This is your fault, OP. Next time be a little clearer.

Edited by Hardac, 20 June 2015 - 11:17 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

Hardac, on 20 June 2015 - 11:17 PM, said:

You failed to announce your intentions and got called out as a trolling jerk. This is your fault, OP. Next time be a little clearer.

he doesn't have the burden of explaining his team what he is doing

meanwhile nobody has the right to disclose his position regardless what they think of his intentions

[Moldur]

I will tell the enemy our last person's position if it looks like they plan on making it a 5 minute wild goose chase with no chance or intent of winning the round or even getting a kill. The other condition I'll reveal them is if this teammate contributed nothing for the duration of the match and essentially left everyone else out to dry like a total scumbag. Looking at you 6xSPL 4xSSRM6 Timber Wolf at 100%

I keep a pretty broad definition of a winnable situation, but if the last guy's intentions to waste time, be cowardly, etc. are completely clear, then it has become a matter of 23 people's time vs. this guy being a non-useful body. I'm not his teammate, nobody is his teammate. None of us care about how long he survives. The round has ceased as far as I am concerned. We all just want to get to the next game instead of waiting around for our mechs to unlock.

[bad arcade kitty]

so you will violate the rules and should be reported and hopefully punished

[Ghogiel]

bad arcade kitty, on 21 June 2015 - 02:15 AM, said:

so you will violate the rules and should be reported and hopefully punished

Support will do an investigation and figure out if the player being called out was a DC/AFK/griefer anyway. Simple as.

[Mystere]

White Bear 84, on 20 June 2015 - 11:11 PM, said:

Can I chose the new Clan Champion?

But I am the new clan champion <and the same as the old one>!

Hardac, on 20 June 2015 - 11:17 PM, said:

You failed to announce your intentions and got called out as a trolling jerk. This is your fault, OP. Next time be a little clearer.

No one has to explain themselves just to prevent someone else from betraying them.

Edited by Mystere, 21 June 2015 - 06:11 AM.

[Moomtazz]

Betrayal LMAO..bunch of overdramatic wierdos in this thread!

[Ghogiel]

Mystere, on 21 June 2015 - 06:09 AM, said:

No one has to explain themselves just to prevent someone else from betraying them.

Same reason why no one needs to justify themselves for calling out locations of DC/AFK/hiding griefers.

[GeistHrafn]

Ghogiel, on 21 June 2015 - 07:00 AM, said:

Same reason why no one needs to justify themselves for calling out locations of DC/AFK/hiding griefers.

Nope, you don't need to justify yourself. However, it won't matter if you're reported.

Team Treason
Treasonous provision of information to enemy combatants, also known as "bird-doging" is forbidden. This involves a player using the in-game chat to provide the enemy team with the locations of their own team mates. While we appreciate that some players may wish to have a round end early by calling out the location of an AFK team-mate, the risk that this could be used against an active participant of the match to deny them the use of cover and movement makes this a form of a griefing. You may declare a teammate AFK but not their coordinates or position.

[oldradagast]

Lunatic_Asylum, on 20 June 2015 - 06:02 AM, said:

Lord Perversor, I did know that. The other premade probably had one guy not from their clan in their team; thus, I messed it up.
All right. I see my mistakes now, and I shall try not to repeat them again!
Thanks, guys!

No problem, man.

I see this all too often, and now I ended up walking into it. The internet is a HORRIBLE method to communicate anything other than clear facts free of inflection, humor, or anything else. Honest mistakes look like trolling, a lack of understanding about how something works can be interpreted as trying to make problems, and then people snap, assuming the worst.

I still wish the game flagged premade teams in your queue. In retrospect, I realize another problem that happened here - we were NOT all part of the same unit in that drop. So, even if you kept all the people in my unit together, you were inadvertently still breaking up lances that were part of a premade.

Anyway, Lunatic, good games to you, and I hope your future experiences are better. Most MWO players are fine folks - I try to be one, too - but mistakes happen, and sometimes bad games, real-life stuff, or a trip to the forums can bring out the worst in people, too. Take care, and have fun!

Edited by oldradagast, 21 June 2015 - 09:56 AM.

[a hacker]

Mystere, on 20 June 2015 - 05:02 PM, said:

Who are you to dictate to anyone else how to play?

[Redacted]

Edited by Rhazien, 23 June 2015 - 04:12 PM.
Language, nonconstructive