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[InspectorG]

Mudhutwarrior, on 21 June 2015 - 08:46 AM, said:

Sorry its the exploiters destroying the game, not PGI. This is a simple truth, One no exploiter wants you to understand.

Whats your definition of an 'exploiter'?

[Mycrus]

InspectorG, on 21 June 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

Whats your definition of an 'exploiter'?

Anybody that gets the final blow on him...

Else anybody that uses the in game voip to roll other pugs...

[InspectorG]

Sarlic, on 21 June 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

I think the 12vs12 full random is a part of the problem as well.

But if players could only alter their playstyle to accommodate the randomness...*cough* Locust...*ahem*

[InspectorG]

Mycrus, on 21 June 2015 - 08:23 PM, said:

Anybody that gets the final blow on him...

Else anybody that uses the in game voip to roll other pugs...

I had a total VOIP fail today...must NOT have been synch droppers.

Alpine Assault and we got the base far away from mount mechsjoy.

Of course i recommended we defend...

But an exploiter took command and put the defend icon at the BOTTOM of the hill...ok, should be interesting.
An ECM light cookies one of their lights over to use and we kill him giving us the +1 lead.

OK, sit tight thy come to us...

Until...genius on our team Leroy Jenkins to the radio tower and dies...valiantly im sure.

So we wait and GIs and ERPPC snipers are trying to hit stuff at 1000m.
They finally push on us and we get crushed.

If only i had my unit synch drop. If only i used VOIP moar. If only i used headshot.exe.

A Pug could have been saved.

[Mycrus]

InspectorG, on 21 June 2015 - 08:40 PM, said:

I had a total VOIP fail today...must NOT have been synch droppers.

Alpine Assault and we got the base far away from mount mechsjoy.

Of course i recommended we defend...

But an exploiter took command and put the defend icon at the BOTTOM of the hill...ok, should be interesting.
An ECM light cookies one of their lights over to use and we kill him giving us the +1 lead.

OK, sit tight thy come to us...

Until...genius on our team Leroy Jenkins to the radio tower and dies...valiantly im sure.

So we wait and GIs and ERPPC snipers are trying to hit stuff at 1000m.
They finally push on us and we get crushed.

If only i had my unit synch drop. If only i used VOIP moar. If only i used headshot.exe.

A Pug could have been saved.

I use the power of positive affirmation...

Everytime i pug first thing i do is to type "farm the pugs" in all chat... for mystical reason we most end up doing it...

[Mycrus]

Cryll Ankiseth, on 21 June 2015 - 08:56 PM, said:

The main issue is people are too timid.

Everybody is waiting for the first person to essentially sacrifice himself and tank 12 people at once thus giving everyone else the chance to get in free shots.

use uavs.. aka pug herders...

[PappySmurf]

OP I hate to tell you but there are quite a few factors regarding solo MM queue loses I will list a few below

#1 bad teamwork
#2 OP elite vets and there op mechs-modules and mastered skills killing 4-8 pugs per battle=no balance in the game.
#3 hackers still roaming solo MM and CW MM queues screwing up the game.

The list goes on and on and PGI lets it all go even to the point of the game dying and the servers shutting down before the fools change there crappy game model.

Edited by PappySmurf, 21 June 2015 - 09:07 PM.

[El Bandito]

bad arcade kitty, on 21 June 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

if you play soloq you won't meet groups

if you have a long loss streak in the group queue it means your group probably isn't that good...

I saw plenty of sync drops on solo queue. When there are 4 members of the same group in a match, you know that **** was planned. People go for lengthly measures, just for e-peen. Which makes it not fun for the true solo-queuers, since those groupies will probably rat out the positions and weak points of their team on their TS, should their top scorer happens to be on the other team.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 June 2015 - 10:36 PM.

[meteorol]

Cryll Ankiseth, on 21 June 2015 - 09:07 PM, said:

Even when the team knows where the enemy is, they are generally still too timid to do anything with it. Unless you have one or two people willing to be aggressive and take advantage of a push, knowing they will be left 3 sheets into the wind half the time, then most of the time your team seems content to just sit back and try to out-potshot the enemy.

The best way to conduct PUGs is to play a direwolf, and almost oneshot an enemy mech in the direction you want them to move. Keep him in target, but don't kill him. Marvel as you see 7 of your 11 teammates turn from whatever they are doing right now, rushing straight at the critically damage target you gave them, without even thinking what dangers could be ahead. The 4 remaining will get dragged along.
When their "OMG EASY KILL" blood rage is over, they all of a sudden realize they started a relentless assault into the enemy. They can't turn back so they have to fight. Once they actually fight you will win the battle.

[Mycrus]

El Bandito, on 21 June 2015 - 10:32 PM, said:

I saw plenty of sync drops on solo queue. When there are 4 members of the same group in a match, you know that **** was planned. People go for lengthly measures, just for e-peen. Which makes it not fun for the true solo-queuers, since those groupies will probably rat out the positions and weak points of their team on their TS, should their top scorer happens to be on the other team.

Not saying this doesnt happen... but seriously how often does this occur enough to make some pug have a 99 losing streak...

meteorol, on 21 June 2015 - 11:11 PM, said:

The best way to conduct PUGs is to play a direwolf, and almost oneshot an enemy mech in the direction you want them to move. Keep him in target, but don't kill him. Marvel as you see 7 of your 11 teammates turn from whatever they are doing right now, rushing straight at the critically damage target you gave them, without even thinking what dangers could be ahead. The 4 remaining will get dragged along.
When their "OMG EASY KILL" blood rage is over, they all of a sudden realize they started a relentless assault into the enemy. They can't turn back so they have to fight. Once they actually fight you will win the battle.

Yup... i ignore badly crippled mechs to focus on the more immediate threat...

[TWIAFU]

Mudhutwarrior, on 21 June 2015 - 01:28 PM, said:

Again its not about me so stop attempting to break it on me. That's one vid from long ago when I was going around with the poster here on the forums. It's an old playbook and only your contemporaries are buying it.

If I can't do this I would not have a positive k/d even though it just suffered through leveling urbies.

I do just fine in game. we are addressing an issue posted on many times a week here if you haven't noticed. Threads I didn't start so stop sidelineing a thread like you buddy in 66ah. We learned his game now were on to yours in the same style as his.

SO, could have fooled me.

And yet every time you lose, you ***** and moan that it was because someone cheated, used exploits, or people ganged up on you and sync dropped.

Where is the Ignore feature, this place be so much better if didn't have to scroll past your drivel.

[Joseph Mallan]

Kieferchirurg, on 21 June 2015 - 07:25 AM, said:

I lost 15 games in a row. solo queue. 80% of the matches i do 400+ dmg, 0-2 kills, several components... why is the matchmaking doing this to me?!

Its not the matchmakers fault your PUG teams are not working together for victory.

Mudhutwarrior, on 21 June 2015 - 09:46 AM, said:

Not listening to self appointed experts helped me immensely.

Is this your self appointed opinion?

[TWIAFU]

Nightshade24, on 21 June 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

I wish this was true.

but I had 5 people from the same unit before in an earlier pug game... sync dropped, 1 was on the enemy team though.

Happens rather often for me >.>

It IS true. You just met players with the same tag in the solo queue. Same tag does not mean they are in a group or sync dropped, as you found out first hand, yet still claim it is not true.

[Nightshade24]

TWIAFU, on 22 June 2015 - 03:00 AM, said:

It IS true. You just met players with the same tag in the solo queue. Same tag does not mean they are in a group or sync dropped, as you found out first hand, yet still claim it is not true.

that is true... however all of them were in the same mech besides 1 of them on our team but the one on the oppasite team had the same mech as well... and same build...

It makes me remember the days of 5 man teams of death star stalkers on river city killing half my team before we got off the spawn or they did >.> bad memories flashing before my eyes...

[Zookeeper Dan]

Escef, on 21 June 2015 - 06:57 PM, said:

I frequently break 1000 XP on a loss. If you're leveling mechs, UAVs are generally XP goldmines. If people are chasing the squirrel it takes very little effort to hold down caps lock for a second and say, "Don't chase him if you aren't fast enough to catch him," we have VOIP, use it. Also, how do you know everything was on group 1? You do realize that while spectating it shows ALL weapons in group 1 regardless of where they actually are?

If you frequently break 1000 xp on a loss you are a much better player than me. You saying this is like a major league baseball pitcher telling me that throwing 90 mph strikes is easy. It may be for him, but it's not going to happen for me. My last game where all the stars aligned for a 700 pt 3 kill 2 assist game that we lost gave under 1000 xp.

I didn't know about all weapons showing on group one. He fired them all at the same time, but maybe at that point it was desperation.

I've come to take my losses in stride and instead judge how I played relative to the team.

[meteorol]

TWIAFU, on 22 June 2015 - 02:56 AM, said:

Where is the Ignore feature, this place be so much better if didn't have to scroll past your drivel.

Are you sure you wanna do this? You will miss pure comedy. His posts are like a gruesome car accident. You don't want to look at it, but somehow you can't stop watching. Just don't discuss with him. He doesn't have the mental capabilities to understand even the simplest coherencies. Watching a 4 year old scream and stomp his feet in the mall can be exhilarating at times (if it is not your own) but trying to explain to a child why it is wrong can be really exhausting. So just stop trying the latter and do the first.

[Escef]

TWIAFU, on 22 June 2015 - 02:56 AM, said:

Where is the Ignore feature, this place be so much better if didn't have to scroll past your drivel.

Profile>Forum Profile>Edit My Profile>'Ignore' Preferences

[CDLord HHGD]

I've started to preface all my matches with "And on today's episode of ELO hell....."

[Dashen]

Sometimes you log into the game to have fun, but when the minimap blips red on your team's left and they dont turn even after yelling in chat then lose to that, and repeat that for 5 matches or more....well...then you understand how sad the playerbase in soloq is, really, it's like a bunch of mindless drones without even a droplet of awareness.

Know what would be fun? you lose your mech gets salvaged, you get back half of it's value, you win you make tons of cbills. Let's see if people still play mindlessly >.<

[Lugh]

Mudhutwarrior, on 21 June 2015 - 08:46 AM, said:

You guys need to not make it obvious. Just now dropped into a pug match in solo. Two lances ball up and drive over the top while the light captures in the opening moments. Not any variation in movement between them. No chat, no voip used.

Stomped the other team in minutes flat with precision concentrated fire on each target.

Pugs don't do that. Its always chaos in the beginning as everyone gets their bearings or chat and or voip gets chatter then the team coalesces into a unit. Even on the best pugs teams concentrated fire is hit or miss unless targets are called.

Solo's can't learn fro the experience because they haven't a clue to whats happened or what they witnessed. Then they come here and some liar tells them no one synchs into solo and to get better.

Sorry its the exploiters destroying the game, not PGI. This is a simple truth, One no exploiter wants you to understand.

Even when you tell the RAMBO of PUGLANDIA to hold position and not poke he doesn't, he pokes and gets focused by 12 mechs.

When you tell Puglandia the time to rush is NOW. 5 or 6 of them will mill about in a circle jerk of WOE IS ME I R DAMGAGED.
QQQ...

There is no helping bad players.