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[Tallyn]

I for one like the Shadow Cat's built-in eyepatch.

[Jack Shayu Walker]

Ozealot, on 19 July 2015 - 01:34 AM, said:

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Stop bickering about every single thing you might not like. It only raises some rabble for some likes of your post and the rant goes on for weeks because "the community concerns get no attention". Where comes the thought from you have any say in this? Be glad that PGI listens at all after all what was said in these forums to this day. You didn't even see the cockpit with an FOV of your liking. Ever though that the cockpit designers/3D modelers put some lifeblood into their work which they are justifiably proud of? And you bash it because of some small detail which may affect ingame performance just a tiny bit? That's unrespectful and rude and you should be ashamed of yourself. Develop some sense of empathy or if you can't just treat them like people because they are. There is nothing wrong to express concerns and opinions but maybe some should think about another approach at wording it. I do even hope it's not that bad, but it certainly appears like it when I read extreme words like "hate" to voice an otherwise seemingly reasonable significance. If you want to communicate, which sometimes is questionable in the first place, you should try to find the correct words and give justice to some basic etiquette. Just think about someone would approach your personal work the way you do here, and what your reaction would be. You certainly already have them ready to change the stuff, so you can bash the next thing, just for the sake of it and some forum prominence. And don't imply that I wrote this because I have a different opinion than the perceived majority, because I may have not, that's not what this post is about. I just see not really a requirement to share my opinion with the lot of you, seeing how people which are involved on a major level in this product, which is for everyone here at least good enough to invest time and money into it (yes, you have to pay for electricity and maintenance of your PC, not only MC), get treated altough they are contributing that much to it. I mean look at those praised minis and original art from the eighties. Are you kidding me? That's just some sentimental value left in there, not much of anything else. With MWO this stuff comes to life, and it looks incredible. There may be ways to improve it in some aspects but not just by throwing some stones to the creators and declaring it bad or insufficient but by appreciation and constructive feedback. Where the acknowledgement of the achievement so far should be coming first, and every personal concern later. Don't expect anything being catered to your very own personal liking because you gather a crowd with pitchforks and torches. That's no achievement.

Okay first Mr. Ozealot, if you want to talk about forum etiquette, you can start with cutting your post into multiple paragraphs. It would very much be appreciated.

Now, I have a sense of empathy, a large one actually, and if anyone's post in this topic is bitingly rude, it's the one you made just now. I have thrown zero condemnations at PGIs employees, I have only pleaded that they fix something that will be a performance issue with my favorite mech of all time.

I even went so far as to say that everything else was perfect. Another user even comically suggested that they had to make sure to put something wrong in the Shadowcat to keep us from dying from the hype; it's a really freaking cool mech!

You sir, on the other hand, have tried to condemn all of us who are trying to have an influence on our product that we paid good money for.

Let me explain something.

I have not made complaints on this forum to gain popularity and get likes on my posts; I've posted what I have (and have even made a twitter account) because I care immensely how the Shadowcat comes out and I have learned in my time playing online games that if you want changes made you have to be vocal about it, If you sit down and say nothing you have no-one to blame but yourself when things don't come out right.

We are not "throwing stones" at the developers. We have constructively identified a problem, the monitor stand, and ask that it be removed. It's as simple as that. We have not asked them to replace it, nor have we asked them to go through a complicated solution to fix it. Removing it should be a simple and nonstressful task.

Lastly praising achievement cannot come first unfortunately, if you do not point out problems when you see them, even for the sake of politeness, you hurt your chances of getting fixes done in a timely manner.

I don't hate or dislike the devs, I'm only trying to get my product fixed so it can be the best that it can be.

Edit: Ohyeah and as far as your comment about not seeing it in a good FoV, I play in 60 FoV, so this is what I will be looking at.

Edited by Jack Shayu Walker, 19 July 2015 - 07:58 AM.

[Wintersdark]

I wouldn't mind the monitors at all, if they actually did something. Just saying [ AUTO DETECT: NO ] is aggravating.

[Jack Shayu Walker]

Wintersdark, on 19 July 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

I wouldn't mind the monitors at all, if they actually did something. Just saying [ AUTO DETECT: NO ] is aggravating.

Yeah, I agree. If the monitors on that stand did something they'd still be in an annoying position but at least the SHC would have some kind of bittersweet advantage in some sense. The vital info would be the easiest to see compared to other mechs.

[Wintersdark]

Jack Shayu Walker, on 19 July 2015 - 08:20 AM, said:

Yeah, I agree. If the monitors on that stand did something they'd still be in an annoying position but at least the SHC would have some kind of bittersweet advantage in some sense. The vital info would be the easiest to see compared to other mechs.

Even if it's not vital info, if it at least showed something. Like the Griffon's kill counter, or heat sink counts, or ammo, or whatever. SOMETHING. I'd be happy with baby steps. But half a dozen completely non-functional monitors? Just rip them off.

[Jack Shayu Walker]

Wintersdark, on 19 July 2015 - 08:35 AM, said:

Even if it's not vital info, if it at least showed something. Like the Griffon's kill counter, or heat sink counts, or ammo, or whatever. SOMETHING. I'd be happy with baby steps. But half a dozen completely non-functional monitors? Just rip them off.

:/ hit the nail on the head

[ChapeL]

I won't even notice the extra monitor past the first few seconds of gameplay.
Of course it would be even better if they actually did something !

[Thell]

I don't even understand the big deal about the monitors. Is it OCD?

[Jack Shayu Walker]

Thell, on 19 July 2015 - 09:12 AM, said:

I don't even understand the big deal about the monitors. Is it OCD?

It's more about the fact that, on some mechs, they are very obstructive while serving no purpose to justify said obstruction.

[Twilight Fenrir]

Wee! First post to Day 2 Apparently someone felt guilty about Day 3, and posted early!

Wow, the Faction camo looks awesome on both mechs. The Arctic Cheetah is the first mech I've seen I actually like the Smoke Jag pattern on... Suitable for it's name... just gotta paint it orangish-yellow with black and white spots, and it'll be spot on for its namesake!

Both mechs look AMAZING in the Ghost Bear pattern, and the Wolf pattern is almost as good on both, too. Better on the Cheetah, IMHO.

And, oooh! Hey! That shot of the Cheetah in Wolf pattern is the C Now we know where that second energy hardpoint goes... I never would have put money on it going there... interesting choice.

And, we got our first peek at the Shadowcat B with the dual ERLLs on it. Too bad we can't tell where the energy hardpoint is on the right arm, whether it's off on the side, or if it replaces the Gauss. We've now seen all 4 variants of both chassis.

Edited by Twilight Fenrir, 19 July 2015 - 10:08 AM.

[ExoForce]

Conspiracy theory: monitors are here to reduce total number of moving pixels, so frame rate is increased on weird coded HUD?

[Steve Pryde]

Jade Falcon, Smoke Jaguar and Ghost Bear camo looks awesome on both mechs.

[Hawk819]

Love the Jag pattern on the Shadow and Cheetah. That settles it for me. Jaguar Camouflage and content for me on the 21st release.

[gl0w]

I look forward to the heavy queue being usable for a couple days.

Edited by gl0w, 19 July 2015 - 11:34 AM.

[Sevrid]

meteorol, on 19 July 2015 - 04:45 AM, said:

For the love of god PLEASE stop putting those broken monitors into cockpits.

It is time PGI, something needs to be done with the monitors

Edited by Sevrid, 19 July 2015 - 11:39 AM.

[Jack Shayu Walker]

Sevrid, on 19 July 2015 - 11:39 AM, said:

It is time PGI, something needs to be done with the monitors

Yep, IIIIIII'm waitin.

[MechB Kotare]

Opinion against opinion. As one of those who paid RL money, i must say im completely fine with the monitor, most ppl seem to complain about. Enjoy or refund.

Edited by MechB Kotare, 19 July 2015 - 11:49 AM.

[ExoForce]

Actually, monitors are scaring the living sheet out of me when my LRM boat is powering up and there is NO AMMUNITION LOADED displayed on my right sided cabin monitor...

Edited by ExoForce, 19 July 2015 - 11:51 AM.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Steve Pryde, on 19 July 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

Jade Falcon, Smoke Jaguar and Ghost Bear camo looks awesome on both mechs.

As much as i do like the falcon camo, it still suffers greatly from the "here's my centertorso, pls shoot me" yellow 3th. color placement.

[Wintersdark]

MechB Kotare, on 19 July 2015 - 11:46 AM, said:

Opinion against opinion. As one of those who paid RL money, i must say im completely fine with the monitor, most ppl seem to complain about. Enjoy or refund.

It's not an "enjoy or refund" thing - I doubt anyone is so against them that they'd refund their purchase unless they were planning to anyways and where just looking for an excuse.

I think most of our objections is that there's so damn many, and in the field of view... But that wouldn't be so aggravating if they actually DID something, rather than just saying [ AUTODETECT: NO ] throughout the match. If they were functional - even if not useful - I think you'd see the bulk of the complaints vanish.