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#81 Imperius

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:01 AM

PLEASE DON'T DO THIS!!!

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#82 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:01 AM

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry

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Edit: Great minds think alike, Imperius. We literally posted them 2 seconds apart

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 24 July 2015 - 11:04 AM.


#83 Rhaythe

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:03 AM

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#84 Alan Davion

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:04 AM

View PostRhaythe, on 24 July 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

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If anything we might get a Marauder more like the original, if this all turns out right and HG doesn't shite all over it.

#85 Imperius

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:06 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 24 July 2015 - 11:01 AM, said:

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry

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Edit: Great minds think alike, Imperius. We literally posted them 2 seconds apart

It's ok you spent more time on yours :P

#86 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:07 AM

View PostImperius, on 24 July 2015 - 11:06 AM, said:

It's ok you spent more time on yours :P

Which was why i posted it 2 seconds later :lol:

#87 1453 R

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:07 AM

View Postdarqsyde, on 24 July 2015 - 10:12 AM, said:

I suspect that the newly reseen have already been cleared by legal teams on all sides. CGL most assuredly does not want a repeat of the Project Phoenix issues, or the issues surrounding the original MWO trailer. So, for this reason, I've no doubt a great many IP lawyers have earned excitingly fast new automobiles.

Also, the licensing of the Robotech rights to Sony may be a sign of weakening resolve on the part of HG. (That, or Sony just threw a bucket load of money at them.)


There's a difference between licensing movie rights that will reinforce the strength of your franchise, and thus the strength of your original copywrong, to a megagagglegigacorp that could armwrestle you into the ground with their toes, and finally losing a legal battle against the current holders of an IP Harmony Gold has been trying to sabotage, strangle, and otherwise kill off for decades.

Nobody says no to Sony. I'm absolutely certain HG is going to do everything in its power to say no to CGL. It'll be interesting to see whether that original beyond-messed-up copywrong of HG's has eroded enough by now that CGL can finally beat it and get their blasted 'Mechs back.

Me? I'm hopeful. Copyright cases have been getting more and more heated as of recent times, with more public pressure being applied against obviously criminal misapplication of copywrong law (and by 'criminal' I mean 'offensive to any right-thinking individual', not legally criminal). Harmony Gold's been polluting the Robotech franchise for, what? Forty years now? They've been damaging BattleTech's business for just as long. It's time and more than time that somebody finally laid knuckle to HG's jaw and said "KNOCK THIS HORSE P!SS OFF AND PLAY FAIR ALREADY."

I am eagerly awaiting the courts' decisions and hoping they will concur.

#88 Rhaythe

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:07 AM

View PostAlan Davion, on 24 July 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:


If anything we might get a Marauder more like the original, if this all turns out right and HG doesn't shite all over it.

Too early to hope, probably. Yet I am. If I get my marauder, my poor cataphracts are never getting flown again.

(Yes, I run my Cataphract like a Marauder 3R. don't judge me...)

#89 Glaive-

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:08 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 24 July 2015 - 11:01 AM, said:

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry

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Edit: Great minds think alike, Imperius. We literally posted them 2 seconds apart


Looking at that image has killed many of my brain cells and decreased my sanity, thanks.

#90 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:09 AM

View Postarmyunit, on 24 July 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:


Looking at that image has killed many of my brain cells and decreased my sanity, thanks.

Mission accomplished.

#91 Dimento Graven

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:12 AM

View Post1453 R, on 24 July 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:

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Me? I'm hopeful. Copyright cases have been getting more and more heated as of recent times, with more public pressure being applied against obviously criminal misapplication of copywrong law (and by 'criminal' I mean 'offensive to any right-thinking individual', not legally criminal). Harmony Gold's been polluting the Robotech franchise for, what? Forty years now? They've been damaging BattleTech's business for just as long. It's time and more than time that somebody finally laid knuckle to HG's jaw and said "KNOCK THIS HORSE P!SS OFF AND PLAY FAIR ALREADY."

I am eagerly awaiting the courts' decisions and hoping they will concur.
It's amazing how much effort people/corporations will go through in order to milk the money out of something they themselves had zero effort in creating in the first place.

Just think if HG had actually invested that time, effort, and resources into creating NEW 'mech designs, and ideas...

#92 Mystere

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:13 AM

View PostAlan Davion, on 24 July 2015 - 10:58 AM, said:

I think the Gold Mech thing is well and truly dead. There are still plenty of Gold Clan mechs available, but I doubt anyone has bought any of them since the Timbie's sold out.


I'm waiting for a gold Arctic Cheetah, Ebon Jaguar, or Shadowhawk ShadowCat. :ph34r:

<Edit. I'm a vat-raised Clanner, not a freeborn.> :P

Edited by Mystere, 24 July 2015 - 11:20 AM.


#93 Alan Davion

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:15 AM

View PostRhaythe, on 24 July 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:

Too early to hope, probably. Yet I am. If I get my marauder, my poor cataphracts are never getting flown again.

(Yes, I run my Cataphract like a Marauder 3R. don't judge me...)


Which is why I used words like 'might' and 'if'. Once we see an image of their redone Marauder, that's when the real hoping begins.

View PostMystere, on 24 July 2015 - 11:13 AM, said:


I'm waiting for a gold Arctic Cheetah, Ebon Jaguar, or Shadowhawk. :ph34r:


Ah, but to sell a Gold Shadow Hawk, they would have to re-open the Phoenix mechs, which the community already said no to.

And I have the feeling there's a good chance people would be asking for the Phoenix mechs again if PGI manages to secure these new Macross-derived deigns for a Phoenix 2 or whatever.

#94 Mavairo

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:18 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 24 July 2015 - 08:35 AM, said:

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not a knock on Alex's redesign, as he had some pretty tough parameters to fill.... but......
do
want

THAT is a Battlemaster.


Yes. Just Yes.
Though with our horrible "dynamic weapon geometry" the warhammer's ppcs will be 3/4 shorter, and the battle masters MGs in it's hand would be pea shooters like they are now.

#95 Mystere

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:18 AM

View PostAlan Davion, on 24 July 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

Ah, but to sell a Gold Shadow Hawk, they would have to re-open the Phoenix mechs, which the community already said no to.


View PostMystere, on 24 July 2015 - 11:13 AM, said:

I'm waiting for a gold Arctic Cheetah, Ebon Jaguar, or ShadowCat. :ph34r:


Oops! I meant that.

#96 MarineTech

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:20 AM

I don't care what color they are.... I'd pay a metric crap-ton of cash for the Warhammer.

#97 RedDevil

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:21 AM

Oh god. I would so have a mental breakdown if the released the Warhammer without the cannon arms.

#98 Alan Davion

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:21 AM

View PostMystere, on 24 July 2015 - 11:18 AM, said:


Oops! I meant that.


lol, I kind of figured that was the case.

Still, the second part of my statement stands. If these mechs do get into MWO, especially if they're labeled "Phoenix", then people are going to want the original Phoenix mechs sold again.

#99 Dagorlad13

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:24 AM

Incase no one linked it: http://d15yciz5bluc8...nner.jpg?bdd337

#100 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:36 AM

I pray to whatever necessary deity that this works out and we get the Unseen in MWO at some point. I might even be dumb enough to buy a gold Warhammer or Marauder if they actually rolled them out...





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