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[Dennis Ward]

Pardon me, I'm just stopping by to refuel my Arctic Cheetah, I ran out of fuel for my Ice Ferret, but my Cheetah runs on tears of the IS pilots. This should be a quick fill.

Joking aside, welcome to my world, playing solely clan and being a fast mech pilot has been painful for a long time. Time for us to be on equal ground and let the superior piloting win. And yes we are equal now, clan mech may have a few advantages, but so do the IS mech via quirks.

[RED Smith]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 30 July 2015 - 07:48 AM, said:

(Alternatively, use an Oxide and execute plan Macross Missile Massacre)

LOL

[Elizander]

I jump onto big mech with Gauss, AC and PPC. Hit in chest. Dead cheetah.

Fighting them doesn't feel any different from fighting Firestarters though. I just call them "clan firestarters"

Edited by Elizander, 31 July 2015 - 04:53 AM.

[Moomtazz]

Elizander, on 31 July 2015 - 04:52 AM, said:

I jump onto big mech with Gauss, AC and PPC. Hit in chest. Dead cheetah.

Fighting them doesn't feel any different from fighting Firestarters though. I just call them "clan firestarters"

Agreed. I have no problem killing them and playing them feels like a Firestarter.

[DrSlamastika]

LOL what about using Firestarters again that "OP clan mechs"

[FlipOver]

Don't over think things, guys!

It's a light mech, Clan or IS, so shoot off one of their sexiest parts:


Edit - Done, problem solved.

Edited by FlipOver, 31 July 2015 - 06:02 AM.

[Krigherren]

...OP Arctic Cheetah...? Have you used them? They're comparable to the Firestarter and Raven, in what it's trying to pull off but still easily outdone by them.

It weighs 5 tons less. At first you might think well that's not a huge difference.. but it is. Less armour, heatsinks and weaponry as well as locked JJs and others bits as with any MWO Omni.

Sure, they're very nimble, carry ECM and are pretty effective in the weapon setups they can bolster.. but they're far from OP. They run hot with whatever you slap on them. I find it's the nimbleness of it that's giving people trouble. The speed difference is a big one and combined with it's armament it is a big change from what we've already had.

You can definitely pull off some good numbers with it but that comes with a great amount of effort.

Edited by Krigherren, 31 July 2015 - 12:23 PM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Krigherren, on 31 July 2015 - 06:43 AM, said:

...OP Arctic Cheetah...? Have you used them? They're comparable to the Firestarter and Raven, but still easily outdone by them.

It weighs 5 tons less. 5 tons. At first you might think well that's not a huge difference.. but it is. Less armour, heatsinks and weaponry as well as locked JJs and others bits as with any MWO Omni.

Just so you know,

30 vs 35 tons at the AC speed is 1.25 tons of free space difference. Factor in the extra armor on a 35 tonner and you're talking 1 ton free space difference. Granted IS lights don't have to run max JJ but we don't get clan XL engine durability either to save us from lucky alphas.

To be perfectly honest, it's been my experience that in my Jenner when I'm dueling an AC, if both are fairly fresh and not running hot at the beginning, if the AC doesn't get me in the first couple alphas, the AC is toast. Both because other than cSPL builds, the AC runs really hot and because AC pilots like to use their JJ to try and get away once they start running hot and the predictable JJ trajectory is a giant LEG ME NOW sign.

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 31 July 2015 - 08:34 AM.

[Nunspa]

jayswing126, on 26 July 2015 - 05:55 AM, said:

We are about to get swarmed and slaughtered by the new, OP light clan mechs. What can we do about it? IS light pilots, assemble! We need to create new builds to fight back! Let's not wait for the resistance pack, let's fight back now!

If you have any ideas on new builds or find any weaknesses we can exploit, post them on this thread.

You can do what I did..

I picked up a Jenner IIC pack

my first clan mech...

just saying

[Chados]

This is an interesting thread. As an IS heavy mech pilot by preference, how to deal with lights is something worth learning.

[MechWarrior3671771]

I'm having some success with the Raven 3L, 3 med pulse, 2 streak. With BAP. Adv Tgt Decay, streak cooldown.

Grab Radar Dep though because most the time your ECM will be set to counter.

[InspectorG]

jayswing126, on 26 July 2015 - 05:55 AM, said:

We are about to get swarmed and slaughtered by the new, OP light clan mechs. What can we do about it? IS light pilots, assemble! We need to create new builds to fight back! Let's not wait for the resistance pack, let's fight back now!

If you have any ideas on new builds or find any weaknesses we can exploit, post them on this thread.

News Flash: You simply Leg light mechs. Removes OP regardless of Warranty.

I wonder if anyone thought to use a HBK-J to 'streak' lights at 200-300M???

And besides, ask any decent Light pilot what their fear is. Its not Streaks. Hint: Begins with 'Dual' and ends with 'Gauss'.

[Dino Might]

Dennis Ward, on 31 July 2015 - 04:03 AM, said:

Pardon me, I'm just stopping by to refuel my Arctic Cheetah, I ran out of fuel for my Ice Ferret, but my Cheetah runs on tears of the IS pilots. This should be a quick fill.

Joking aside, welcome to my world, playing solely clan and being a fast mech pilot has been painful for a long time. Time for us to be on equal ground and let the superior piloting win. And yes we are equal now, clan mech may have a few advantages, but so do the IS mech via quirks.

Your definition of "equal footing" is funny.

[loopala]

practice

[IraqiWalker]

Dennis Ward, on 31 July 2015 - 04:03 AM, said:

Pardon me, I'm just stopping by to refuel my Arctic Cheetah, I ran out of fuel for my Ice Ferret, but my Cheetah runs on tears of the IS pilots. This should be a quick fill.

Joking aside, welcome to my world, playing solely clan and being a fast mech pilot has been painful for a long time. Time for us to be on equal ground and let the superior piloting win. And yes we are equal now, clan mech may have a few advantages, but so do the IS mech via quirks.

Except for the part where the ACH has more health and armor than a Firestarter, while packing ECM, and as much firepower.

While the FS9 has mostly no quirks on anything other than the S variant.

[Tesunie]

Krigherren, on 31 July 2015 - 06:43 AM, said:

...OP Arctic Cheetah...? Have you used them? They're comparable to the Firestarter and Raven, in what it's trying to pull off but still easily outdone by them.

I've been using mine as though it was my Jenner D, but I had to sacrifice a bit for it to work without being an oven. My Jenner D carries 4 MLs and 2 SRM4s. My Cheetah has ECM, 2 CERMLs, 2 CERSL and 2 SRM4s. Get about the same kind of result as my Jenner does, with the benefit of ECM for some stealth as I get into position.

Wouldn't be calling the Cheetah OP per say. Seems to run like most typical fast light mechs...

[Dino Might]

I'm going to design an IS mech, and you tell me if it's OP or not.


Runs 142 kph with a standard engine
Mounts 5 medium pulse lasers and ECM
Is the size of a Mist Lynx
Has 4 JJs with armament
Has armor + structure of a Raven
Has hardpoint location of a Stalker

Now, you tell me...what's wrong with this picture?
This is what the ACH is. It can be killed, definitely, but give me a gosh darn break about how it's "totally balanced." It's better than a Firestarter, and Firestarters are still kinda broken.

[Kotzi]

Try to aim. Just dont be the light mech that halts to aim and shoot.

Edited by Kotzi, 12 August 2015 - 03:53 AM.

[Lily from animove]

MechregSurn, on 30 July 2015 - 09:16 PM, said:

Once again it is superior piloting vs OP clan mechs. The inner sphere doesnt have streak builds as a counter, thus the new clan lights will be unstoppable in cw.

streaks are for noobs and vs noob lights. skilled light pilots will avoid yur steraks because they know how.
get srm's and lern to aim. This shot the crap out of any is light and does it on ACH's as well, + it doesn'T spread damages like ssrm's on large targets.

[Frytrixa]

Since the OP-Cheetah I pulled out a long forgotten build out of my box.
It is working good so far.

It is fast and has the most rocket slots for streaks
The GoldenBoy is not as fast but better quirks and +1MPL



Click Image for Smurphy-Link

Edited by Frytrixa, 12 August 2015 - 07:27 AM.