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[jayswing126]

We are about to get swarmed and slaughtered by the new, OP light clan mechs. What can we do about it? IS light pilots, assemble! We need to create new builds to fight back! Let's not wait for the resistance pack, let's fight back now!

If you have any ideas on new builds or find any weaknesses we can exploit, post them on this thread.

[Zaldier]

jayswing126, on 26 July 2015 - 05:55 AM, said:

OP light clan mechs

lol

[The Great Unwashed]

There we go again

[Zaldier]

Streaks work well, Tag/Narc to counter ecm, chain fire your beams and sweep legs. Move in groups and don't go solo. There are many ways to go, just try thinking about it. It works well with most things. Thinking that is!

The best way to understand a lights weakness is to pilot one, find out what you avoid, what weapons and systems get you killed or damaged most.

Edited by Balvier, 26 July 2015 - 06:50 AM.

[Ghost1987]

jayswing126, on 26 July 2015 - 05:55 AM, said:

We are about to get swarmed and slaughtered by the new, OP light clan mechs. What can we do about it? IS light pilots, assemble! We need to create new builds to fight back! Let's not wait for the resistance pack, let's fight back now!

If you have any ideas on new builds or find any weaknesses we can exploit, post them on this thread.

[Garonis Buhallin]

You have had Jenner, Raven, and Firestarter for how long now? And you want to complain about our Arctic Cheetah?

[latinisator]

Balvier, on 26 July 2015 - 06:07 AM, said:

Streaks work well, Tag/Narc to counter ecm, chain fire your beams and sweep legs. Move in groups and don't go solo. There are many ways to go, just try thinking about it. It works well with most things. Thinking that is!

Shht! That was not supposed to be disclosed.

[Hit the Deck]

To kill ACH and JR7-IIC with IS Lights..... just do it the traditional way with Firestarters. Barring that, wait until Origins come out and buy JR7-IIC. Just pretend that you buy it from a "Spheroid black market". Load the JR7-IIC with this:

• Endo, Ferro, XL245 (124.7 kph)
  
• 3x cSSRM4, 3x cSSRM2
  
• 4.5 tons of SSRM ammo
  
• 1x cAP
  
• 1x DHS

Unfortunately it would not be that effective in killing other lights I imagine, also coupled with lowish ammo.

[White Bear 84]

Here we go again...

Edited by White Bear 84, 26 July 2015 - 07:15 AM.

[Shadey99]

Firestarters do well against Arctic Cheetahs, they are also slightly faster with most standard builds though the margin is narrow. Fast lights also have the advantage of sudden changes in speed on their side, sadly the time it takes to pull away in a contest between someone going 146 kph and someone going 160 or 170 kph is high. I'd personally avoid streaks as SSRM2s are rather underwhelming in general and even with BAP encountering multiple ACHs at once voids the use of your weapon. Bringing tag is an option, however that reduces your energy weapon potential that most light mechs with more than 2 missile hardpoints can't really sacrifice.

I've also gone up against several in Tbolts and my Ebon Jags and both mpl focused builds took apart the ACH. And of course you want to go for vulnerable points: Legs, rear torsos, etc.

Edited by Shadey99, 26 July 2015 - 07:25 AM.

[loopala]

lite on lite fights are never pretty. i feel for the assaults and heavies that used to slow clan lites. oh well just have to treat them like sdr and firestarters.

[Richard Hazen]

My oxide with streaks seems to do well against the cheetah.

[DONTOR]

Deimos Alpha, on 30 July 2015 - 01:56 AM, said:

My oxide with streaks seems to do well against the cheetah.

Ya, thats about the only way to win, that i could think of in an i.s. light. Firestarters have been a complete non issue for me in my Cheetah.

[Eximar]

Huginn. You can't brawl as well with bigger mechs now that HSR is so good, but they are still hell on lights.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Leg it.

There.

Done.

(Alternatively, use an Oxide and execute plan Macross Missile Massacre)

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 30 July 2015 - 07:49 AM.

[Shadey99]

ACHs actually have very hard to hit legs... Or at least that's what I've seen. Though that's not super new, I have the same issue seeming to inflict any real damage to the legs of Spiders and FS, though possibly slightly worse. Then again, my lag is spiky and HSR handles variable lag very very badly.

[White Bear 84]

DONTOR, on 30 July 2015 - 07:17 AM, said:

Ya, thats about the only way to win, that i could think of in an i.s. light. Firestarters have been a complete non issue for me in my Cheetah.

Eximar, on 30 July 2015 - 07:27 AM, said:

Huginn. You can't brawl as well with bigger mechs now that HSR is so good, but they are still hell on lights.

^^the above. Firestarters had their time, they are still ok to run, but not as good as they used to be..

The Huginn is a staple for me as are the other Ravens, but the Huginn really excells at light combat, it even makes its way into my CW decks as the destroyer of legs! Great for nasty hit n runs to finish off cored enemies. I have taken 2/3 mechs on at once in one of these and come out alive..

[Vargralor]

If you're having trouble fighting against lights in a light mech then here's a tip: stop using streaks. With both mechs move 120 + 160 Kph the only way you are going to have time to get a lock with streaks is if they are stationary or moving in a predictable straight line. If that is the case then they are so bad at piloting lights you could probably kill them with a single small laser. Regular SRMs are far better in light vs light fights then streaks.

[ApolloKaras]

They aren't quite OP. A firestarter-A can still hold its own. If anything the field is a bit more even now.

[Surn]

Once again it is superior piloting vs OP clan mechs. The inner sphere doesnt have streak builds as a counter, thus the new clan lights will be unstoppable in cw.