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[MeiSooHaityu]

I think for Clan, everyone agrees Timber Wolf. That seems the obvious choice (Sorry Ebon Jaguar and Summoner ).

For the IS, I think there will be some differing opinions. I think you could make an argument for the Thunderbolt or Jagermech. Although the Cataphract can wreck, it has too many noticeable negatives.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

I don't care that it's not true... I like to pretend that the dragon 1N is the best IS heavy.

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

[MeiSooHaityu]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 10 August 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

I don't care that it's not true... I like to pretend that the dragon 1N is the best IS heavy.

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

I feel similar about my Ilya Muromets .

[DjPush]

The only good clan heavy is a dead one!

[Ascaloth]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 10 August 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

I don't care that it's not true... I like to pretend that the dragon 1N is the best IS heavy.

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

After almost one thousand drops on my 1N, I need to convince myself everyday about this (or go visit a psychiatrist)...

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Ascaloth, on 10 August 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

After almost one thousand drops on my 1N, I need to convince myself everyday about this (or go visit a psychiatrist)...

To be honest the Wolverine 6R makes the Dragon 1N a much harder sell... nearly as good dakka, way better hit boxes, and more SRMs for fools who venture close. Also jump jets.

But, I ran the 2xAC5 Dragon before the quirks and I'll run it long after they're gone.

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 10 August 2015 - 08:23 AM.

[Lugh]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 10 August 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

I don't care that it's not true... I like to pretend that the dragon 1N is the best IS heavy.

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

We all may need to join DAKKA ANONYMUS. I love me some Dakka. I have to stay away from Dragons, or I would never pilot anything else...

[xXBagheeraXx]

El Bandito, on 10 August 2015 - 07:02 AM, said:

Best Heavy for competitive teams? Timberwolf and Hellbringer. Tourney finalists agree.

See any Thunderbolts here?

Ewwwwww...Competitive games....

[El Bandito]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 10 August 2015 - 08:21 AM, said:

To be honest the Wolverine 6R makes the Dragon 1N a much harder sell... nearly as good dakka, way better hit boxes, and more SRMs for fools who venture close. Also jump jets.

But, I ran the 2xAC5 Dragon before the quirks and I'll run it long after they're gone.

Best thing about the 6R is that despite its ridiculous DPS, it will not take away a precious Heavy slot so your team can hopefully get more meta Timbies.

Edited by El Bandito, 10 August 2015 - 08:27 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Just a reminder with the DPS AC builds you guys are throwing out. You have to stare to take advantage of all that firepower, in serious situations that will end up being a death sentence, and if you aren't staring you won't be doing damage. In CW and public drops yeah you can for sure get away with that, drops like the comp drop quoted above... not so much. No Dakka-Dires were there either I might add, not that I can remember anyway.

[Wrathful Scythe]

Strongest mechs in my opinion:
Thunderbolt-5SS with 7 MPL for IS
Timberwolf with Gauss + 6ERML for Clan

Both wreck face and both are the easymode mechs. Fully fitted with modules and everything and you have some real pugstompers. You just can't get bad results in those... even with a steering wheel. The 9S is also pretty good but not facewrecking good like the 5SS. And I don't need to say anything about the Timberwolf.

I feel dirty playing those mechs.

[xXBagheeraXx]

Wrathful Scythe, on 10 August 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

Strongest mechs in my opinion:
Thunderbolt-5SS with 7 MPL for IS
Timberwolf with Gauss + 6ERML for Clan

Both wreck face and both are the easymode mechs. Fully fitted with modules and everything and you have some real pugstompers. You just can't get bad results in those... even with a steering wheel. The 9S is also pretty good but not facewrecking good like the 5SS. And I don't need to say anything about the Timberwolf.

I feel dirty playing those mechs.

Cant the Cauldron Born carry the gauss/erm setup with even more heatsinks and is nearly as fast?

[Gas Guzzler]

On a side not, I'm crossing my fingers that the Black Knight will take the IS heavy crown when it drops!

xXBagheeraXx, on 10 August 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

Cant the Cauldron Born carry the gauss/erm setup with even more heatsinks and is nearly as fast?

I don't know about heatsinks, but I imagine they are pretty close, BUT the Timber Wolf has JJs, more armor, and better hitboxes. They are also the same speed.

[Juodas Varnas]

Gas Guzzler, on 10 August 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

On a side not, I'm crossing my fingers that the Black Knight will take the IS heavy crown when it drops!

I doubt it.
After seeing what quirks the Pure energy based Top Dog got, i don't see the Black Knight (or anything in the pack) getting anything any better.
They're going to be mediocre at best.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 August 2015 - 08:31 AM.

[TercieI]

xXBagheeraXx, on 10 August 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

Cant the Cauldron Born carry the gauss/erm setup with even more heatsinks and is nearly as fast?

No ECM on the EBJ.

TBR and TDR, obviously but EBJ/HBR are both pretty close to the TBR.

[Gas Guzzler]

Juodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 08:31 AM, said:

I doubt it.

Hey I can hope! It just needs dem quirks

[Fate 6]

Greenjulius, on 10 August 2015 - 07:24 AM, said:

I'm really tired of hearing the pathetic excuse that clan players are just better, which is why they have higher stats.

When the pros play, they gravitate towards clan mechs for very obvious reasons. Above are the current proven metamechs. Pros don't pick mediocre chassis to bring into a competitive environment. They bring only the best.

Anyone who tells me Timbers and Loki's aren't the best are just stubborn.

On a side note, it's also obvious that Firestarters are the best light. No one disputes that one. I'm curious to see how the Cheeto ends up in the competitive scene.

I can already tell you that in a ruleset like MLMW there would be at least 1 ACH per team where Firestarters are run. IDK if we'll see the full 3 since ECM starts to lose value and they are more vulnerable to streaks due to their range.

As for heavies, TBR/HBR and TDR, as many have said.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Gas Guzzler, on 10 August 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

Just a reminder with the DPS AC builds you guys are throwing out. You have to stare to take advantage of all that firepower, in serious situations that will end up being a death sentence, and if you aren't staring you won't be doing damage. In CW and public drops yeah you can for sure get away with that, drops like the comp drop quoted above... not so much. No Dakka-Dires were there either I might add, not that I can remember anyway.

That's why the competitive scene is way less fun and why I don't play there anymore. Well that and I'm only competitive in light mechs (speed is love, speed is life) so it's been a while since any decent team considered scouting me.

[Unusual Suspect]

Pjwned, on 10 August 2015 - 07:25 AM, said:

That's limited to Jagermechs and 1 hero mech though, and UAC15 means taking an XL engine on a mech with pretty fragile side torsos. Not that it's bad, but I don't think that's good enough to be considered capable of "wrecking face" anymore.

Huh, I seem to remember a non-hero cataphract that I fit 2 UAC5s and 2 AC5s into (as well as a few small lasers), though you're certainly correct that it needed XL engines and was fairly fragile.

[Gas Guzzler]

Juodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 08:31 AM, said:

I doubt it.
After seeing what quirks the Pure energy based Top Dog got, i don't see the Black Knight (or anything in the pack) getting anything any better.
They're going to be mediocre at best.

Well.. that's because its a hero and they can't have the hero take the crown from the others because P2W..

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 10 August 2015 - 08:39 AM.