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[PaeuxP22]

Just did the maths. 175 avg match score. Whooo T1 here income

[Wayward Herald]

Well what I know is since the new system came in, I was doing maybe a kill or 2 a match, with about 100-150 match score if I was lucky. Now I’m doing 250+ match score and 3-4 kills on average, plus normally one of the last Mechwarriors standing on a lost match.
Hey I’m not complaining but defo think I might be in the wrong tier.

So I don’t know if its still based at all on my older scores where I’d lose every other match even with a few kills. Or is it I’ve become soooooo awesome in just 2 weeks since the patch (I think not )

Edited by Far Echo, 01 September 2015 - 05:57 AM.

[Xiphias]

mailin, on 29 August 2015 - 01:44 PM, said:

That mech tier list is something that someone else thinks are the best weapons loadouts for mechs.

The mech tier list isn't perfect, but it's more or less accurate to within one or two tiers. It's also not just a list of what a random person thinks is best, but by someone who is on one of the top two MWO teams and has feedback and experience from that.

mailin, on 29 August 2015 - 01:44 PM, said:

It has been mentioned before that the Spider 5D is in tier 8. What a joke. Then I checked. His 5D build has 2 medium lasers and 1 large laser. No wonder. Throw 5 medium pulse lasers in that thing, set up your weapon groups properly and one can single-handedly take out any other mech, as long as they don't have streaks and a bap. Period.

First, you can't put 5 MPL on any Spider, there are exactly 3 hardpoints on the 5D. I have that build (personal favorite spider), I've also played the LL + 2ML and the 2ERLL builds. None of them are even close to a top Tier light. Let's try the Spider vs. Arctic Cheetah 1v1 match up. My money is on the Cheetah. There are also plenty of other mechs that can easily 1v1 a Spider.

The problem with Spiders is that they simply can't put out the amount of DPS needed to be competitive. Sure you might end up being the last person alive on your team, but that isn't what wins games.

[mailin]

But in capable hands, I'll take my Spider.

[el piromaniaco]

MM/PSR seems to react quickly, started mastering my catapults and had several terrible games in a row, suddenly the other players have less unit tags and use more lrms.

[8Ball-]

You will never be in your correct tier until you make tier 1. That's the only tier where you never have to fight people markedly better than you are. CW has no tiers. The group que draws from all tiers because of low population. Even the solo que at present draws from tiers one lower and one higher than you are in. So unless you are amongst the best of the best, you are apt to have crappy games at times. Sometimes seeming unending. Unless the steam release gives us a good population boost, this is about as good as it's going to get.

[V O L T R O N]

Whats 400+? Is there a chart thats out? That would be helpful...

Edited by V O L T R O N, 04 September 2015 - 07:27 AM.

[el piromaniaco]

After running around for several games in a meta-build i see more unit tags, better players, better/harder games.
(Less Lrms flying, less people testing their weapons, less "Locks pleaza" and "i will let it rain", etc)

greetings

el piro

[Mcgral18]

V O L T R O N, on 04 September 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

Whats 400+? Is there a chart thats out? That would be helpful...

800 damage



Not quite right, but close enough

[Yokaiko]

V O L T R O N, on 04 September 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

Whats 400+? Is there a chart thats out? That would be helpful...

This is what it looks like in game



That was on a loss

[C E Dwyer]

OP just wants to be in the lowest tier, if he isn't already there, so he can beat other people with as little skill as he has, so he can feel good about himself, rather than work at being good and gaining skills.

If you don't want to be mocked for your intractable attitude, don't come here and whine and be arrogant, and try tell us you don't need to improve.

[Burktross]

Madcap72, on 29 August 2015 - 03:19 AM, said:

This isn't call of duty. If you don't want to change your play style, learn the map. RC is HUGE, with HUGE area's of tall cover.

They even extended the building down the water as well as the dock to add MORE cover.


If you sit in the open center of the map and die, that's your fault.

I agree. River city is easily the best map in the game as of yet. I've yet to have an uninteresting, stomp game on it.

Edited by Burktross, 06 September 2015 - 11:23 AM.

[ScreamingSkull]

LORD ORION, on 29 August 2015 - 03:45 AM, said:

Well... please make sure you aren't useing crap builds.

You should accidentally get 160 points using the T1->T3 mech builds.
http://metamechs.com...mega-tier-list/

If not... well....hrmmmm

I love the Cheetah, but I don't think I can trust a tier list that places it in T3...

[Mcgral18]

ScreamingSkull, on 06 September 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

I love the Cheetah, but I don't think I can trust a tier list that places it in T3...

That's because it's a Light mech.

[Corbon Zackery]

I'm not sure about your account status. If you bought the account from some crap player then you may be stuck level 2 for a while if he racked up a whole bunch of 0 for game scores.

To be in the upper level 4/5 bracket your going to have constant game score avg.

I myself have just over 8,500 matches under my belt. I would guess I am.

Level 4 Light
Level 4 Medium
Level 3/4 Heavy
Level 2/3 Assault

No one know how it works but Russ released a State Of Match Making In Mwo.

They are very happy with the new system closer matches less sweeps most sweeps are due to poor strategy and bad team coordination rather than ELO matching 6 people who score less than 100 points on one team.

[bad arcade kitty]

ScreamingSkull, on 06 September 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

I love the Cheetah, but I don't think I can trust a tier list that places it in T3...

you seem to misunderstand that list

it's a list of mechs/builds which supposedly allow you to carry hard without/with minimal help from your team
hence the top tiers are mostly filled with assaults and heavies

[V O L T R O N]

I know what 400 match score looks like, im saying I average 400+ so what tier would that be? Are they like this?
Tier 1 0-100 < match scores
tier 2 101-200
tier 3 201-300
tier 4 301-400
tier 5 401-500+

Edited by V O L T R O N, 07 September 2015 - 08:06 AM.

[EgoSlayer]

V O L T R O N, on 07 September 2015 - 08:05 AM, said:

I know what 400 match score looks like, im saying I average 400+ so what tier would that be? Are they like this?
Tier 1 0-100 < match scores
tier 2 101-200
tier 3 201-300
tier 4 301-400
tier 5 401-500+

Two things
First you have the tier rankings backwards, Tier 1 is the best.

Second match scores are relative, not based on tiers. A full match of all tier one players will have about the same average match score as a full match of tier 5.

Where you see huge scores is when there is a big skill imbalance, e.g tier one playing against tier 5 would consistently pull very high match scores.

We don't know the actual numbers of what PGI considers bad, good, or exceptional. We can only guess and since match targets for challenge rewards are a 150 match score we can assume that is somewhere around what is considered average. So half that or less is probably considered "bad" where some multiple of that is going to be considered good/exceptional.

[Madcap72]

LRM5 Catapult A1 on terra therma...





If that's not making a silk purse out of a sow's ear I don't know what is.


OP now has no excuse.

[Madcap72]

Grisbane, on 07 September 2015 - 02:02 PM, said:

funny the OP complains about ELO hell, what most call ELO hell i call heaven.. suicide scout my lights 1 or 2 matches (because lights get in que fast) then go farm newbies with my larger mechs. the complete crap match scores offset farming scores.. keeping me firmly in tier 5. i like easy mode.

I doubt you're in 5.

One thing I've noticed is the bell curve does not support farming. Drop with too good of players, and everyone dies so quick that you don't get much done. Drop with too crap of players, and the team folds like a cheap table.

Get that mid-pack sweet spot? MMMMMMMMMMMMM tasty c-bills!