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[pyrocomp]

bad arcade kitty, on 09 September 2015 - 05:51 AM, said:

5 matches, a few meowlers, most died with low damage, one match was carried by an enemy mauler, another almost carried by an enemy mauler... but i did 950+ damage that match and carried harder :3 too bad i unneedfully blew up my mech from overheat killing some harmless timber wolf, it slightly spoiled me the win

Meowler... I'll remeber that.
Anyway, I haven't witnessed such a heroic effort on the enemy part, but we'll see what next night be like.

[Josef Koba]

Rhaythe, on 09 September 2015 - 05:20 AM, said:

I don't own a Mauler, but I've shot a few already, and that center seems awfully squishy.

I haven't dropped since the patch, but could this be because the stock builds are woefully under-armored? Maybe folks haven't tweaked their builds yet.

[pyrocomp]

Josef Koba, on 09 September 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:

I haven't dropped since the patch, but could this be because the stock builds are woefully under-armored? Maybe folks haven't tweaked their builds yet.

I doubt that 5(6?)xAC/2 is a stock build.

[Yellonet]

If you're on the fence consider that you only live once and it's better to try and be disappointed than to not try and regret it.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Josef Koba, on 09 September 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:

I haven't dropped since the patch, but could this be because the stock builds are woefully under-armored? Maybe folks haven't tweaked their builds yet.

Mine are fully armored up CT: 104F/12R (or 10 :/). If I died last night, it was a CT death. Maybe this will change a tiny bit as they skill up (earn 2x basics) due to better torso twisting, but I have a feeling they are a bit CT hitbox big.

I'm not sure if it is worse than a Direwolf (players often complain of their CTs being big), but it is noticeably soft in the CT region.

Still, a majority of Maulers will probably be XL, so targeting side torsos may still be the way to go. (Unless you know it is mounting something that won't fit with an XL).

[Josef Koba]

pyrocomp, on 09 September 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:

I doubt that 5(6?)xAC/2 is a stock build.

I didn't say that it was. What I said is that the stock builds, the ones that were released, are lacking on armor. I was merely hypothesizing that the squishy CT might be the result of low armor and, given that the mech hasn't even been out a day, pilots haven't universally readjusted their armor placement. I don't know about hitboxes and how good/bad they are on the Mauler.

MeiSooHaityu, on 09 September 2015 - 06:35 AM, said:

Mine are fully armored up CT: 104F/12R (or 10 :/). If I died last night, it was a CT death. Maybe this will change a tiny bit as they skill up (earn 2x basics) due to better torso twisting, but I have a feeling they are a bit CT hitbox big.

I'm not sure if it is worse than a Direwolf (players often complain of their CTs being big), but it is noticeably soft in the CT region.

Still, a majority of Maulers will probably be XL, so targeting side torsos may still be the way to go. (Unless you know it is mounting something that won't fit with an XL).

That's interesting. Perhaps then the CT is pretty large, hit box-wise. I'm not sure that the stock builds are that awesome given that the armor placement is what, in the 300s for one of them? I think it's probably mandatory to remove the FF and put in ES, though three of the four do have DHS at least.

[LordBraxton]

Josef Koba, on 09 September 2015 - 06:38 AM, said:

I didn't say that it was. What I said is that the stock builds, the ones that were released, are lacking on armor. I was merely hypothesizing that the squishy CT might be the result of low armor and, given that the mech hasn't even been out a day, pilots haven't universally readjusted their armor placement. I don't know about hitboxes and how good/bad they are on the Mauler.

Anyone above the underhive adjusts armor right away.

[0bsidion]

Mumuharra, on 09 September 2015 - 03:51 AM, said:

I think of buying a set of Maulers but I am not sure if he can do/perform better or play significantly different than my other assaults.

I own:
3 x Atlas
3 x Banshee
3 x Stalker
3 x Dire Wolf
Most of them equipped along their quirks with preference on a combination of ballistics and LRMs and the fitting modules.

Is the Mauler that good or that different that it's worth spending the money and the c-bills to buy and equip three of them (complete with individual modules)?

Thanks in advance,

Markus

Basically what the Mauler can do better than all of those mechs is delivering a higher dose of PPFLD with dual AC20s. And for all those except the Dire, it can still up the ante with dual gauss. Most of those mechs are going to have better durability, though. So if that appeals to you, go right ahead.

[Cyberiad]

It's much more cost effective to buy 3-4 mechbays instead and wait for the mechs to come out for c-bills. $55 is just not worth it for 1 mech.

[DragoonBrigade]

The Maulers torso caves in like an eggshell. It looks strong enough to protect the squishy stuff inside but it just cracks and falls apart. Not to happy with the roll out of assault mechs by pgi. The Executioner is a waste of a mech, Gargoyle is a so so mech, and not to sure about the Mauler yet. That's why you hardly see any Executioners and Gargoyles running if they were good mechs you would see more of them.. Ran basic stock builds with the Mauler which it did not fair well but may get better with time.
Wonder if anyone from PGI reads these posts?

[LordBraxton]

DragoonBrigade, on 09 September 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

The Maulers torso caves in like an eggshell. It looks strong enough to protect the squishy stuff inside but it just cracks and falls apart. Not to happy with the roll out of assault mechs by pgi. The Executioner is a waste of a mech, Gargoyle is a so so mech, and not to sure about the Mauler yet. That's why you hardly see any Executioners and Gargoyles running if they were good mechs you would see more of them.. Ran basic stock builds with the Mauler which it did not fair well but may get better with time.
Wonder if anyone from PGI reads these posts?

EXE is waste of a mech? Get gud. I see lords\emp\sjx etc. in my drops (so im tier 2 probably), and my EXE has a solid 2.2 kdr and 1.6 w\l over 600 matches. I saw someone on this forum with a 6.0 kdr in their EXE after 100 matches. It's a great mech if you wait for the right moment to go berserk.

[MeiSooHaityu]

DragoonBrigade, on 09 September 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

The Maulers torso caves in like an eggshell. It looks strong enough to protect the squishy stuff inside but it just cracks and falls apart. Not to happy with the roll out of assault mechs by pgi. The Executioner is a waste of a mech, Gargoyle is a so so mech, and not to sure about the Mauler yet. That's why you hardly see any Executioners and Gargoyles running if they were good mechs you would see more of them.. Ran basic stock builds with the Mauler which it did not fair well but may get better with time.
Wonder if anyone from PGI reads these posts?

Ran stock loadouts? Did you readjust the armor? The stock armor settings on the CT is brutally low (maybe 50 some points front and about 20 points rear).

Leaving the stock armor allocation will make the CT seem REALLY soft.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 09 September 2015 - 07:44 AM.

[Amsro]

These mechs are tanks with max armor. And they hit hard, I'd like to see what the hitboxes are because so far XL = dead real quick

My STD engine Maulers (3 of them, and now all 4) just keep kickin.

So far I like the chassis a lot 8.5/10

Would buy again.

[DragoonBrigade]

I've dropped with them as well so to me it doesn't matter who you drop with. If EXE's were such good mechs you would see a lot more of them running about.
What do you run in your mech and I'd love to see the kdr screen shots your talking about. You must be quite fortunate to have the time to wait and then go berserk. Instead of gud its more of a dud.

[Gas Guzzler]

DragoonBrigade, on 09 September 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

I've dropped with them as well so to me it doesn't matter who you drop with. If EXE's were such good mechs you would see a lot more of them running about.
What do you run in your mech and I'd love to see the kdr screen shots your talking about. You must be quite fortunate to have the time to wait and then go berserk. Instead of gud its more of a dud.

No he's actually right. In the past 110 matches, my KDR is over 6. Once I figured out the mech, its really awesome. 95 tonner armor, plus MASC, plus JJ, all contribute to making the mech very survivable, and excellent at poking/trading.

I don't know about waiting, my build uses cLPL and cERML so I just shoot when I get shots, and I have had a very successful time in the mech. I love it, its probably my favorite mech. The Mauler is great at dakka, and can pack an insane amount of firepower with an XL engine (albeit quite fragile), but if I had to carry a match I would take an Executioner all the way.

[0bsidion]

DragoonBrigade, on 09 September 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

The Maulers torso caves in like an eggshell. It looks strong enough to protect the squishy stuff inside but it just cracks and falls apart. Not to happy with the roll out of assault mechs by pgi. The Executioner is a waste of a mech, Gargoyle is a so so mech, and not to sure about the Mauler yet. That's why you hardly see any Executioners and Gargoyles running if they were good mechs you would see more of them.. Ran basic stock builds with the Mauler which it did not fair well but may get better with time.
Wonder if anyone from PGI reads these posts?

The EXE is actually quite a bit better than Gargles, at least IMO. Better armor and structure, more pod space, torso weapon mounts. The only thing the Gargles does better is go faster, and that's it, really. The only reason I don't run the EXE more is because I already have too many mechs. After using it, I was reasonably impressed with its viability.

And judging the Mauler by its stock builds? Did you actually look at the armor values for the stock build? Its got the armor of a medium mech at best. So yeah, that's going to be pretty damn squishy for an assault. In TT it's designed purely as a long ranged engagement platform, so it didn't need that much armor. Here in MWO land you're going to be better served maxing that all out.

Edited by 0bsidion, 09 September 2015 - 08:17 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

0bsidion, on 09 September 2015 - 08:15 AM, said:

The EXE is actually quite a bit better than Gargles, at least IMO. Better armor and structure, more pod space, torso weapon mounts. The only thing the Gargles does better is go faster, and that's it, really. The only reason I don't run the EXE more is because I already have too many mechs. After using it, I was reasonably impressed with its viability.

And judging the Mauler by its stock builds? Did you actually look at the armor values for the stock build? Its got the armor of a medium mech at best. So yeah, that's going to be pretty damn squishy for an assault. In TT it's designed purely as a long ranged engagement platform, so it didn't need that much armor. Here in MWO land you're going to be better served maxing that all out.

Maxing it out, and dropping the XL 270. Way too slow/fragile. Honestly, all but 1 of my Maulers are going to be running STD engines. The one XL build I will keep is really nasty, and I enjoy it too much. Got me a couple 1100 dmg games last night without all the basics.

[0bsidion]

Gas Guzzler, on 09 September 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

Maxing it out, and dropping the XL 270. Way too slow/fragile. Honestly, all but 1 of my Maulers are going to be running STD engines. The one XL build I will keep is really nasty, and I enjoy it too much. Got me a couple 1100 dmg games last night without all the basics.

I can't argue with that, with those jumbo torsos the XL was a nonstarter. Maybe if they'd expanded the CT hitboxes more, you might get away with it. I dropped it for a standard 275. Better survivability that way. You sacrifice some firepower, but firepower is only good as long as you're still ambulatory.

[Gas Guzzler]

0bsidion, on 09 September 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

I can't argue with that, with those jumbo torsos the XL was a nonstarter. Maybe if they'd expanded the CT hitboxes more, you might get away with it. I dropped it for a standard 275. Better survivability that way. You sacrifice some firepower, but firepower is only good as long as you're still ambulatory.

Yeah, most reliable build I have seen is 4 UAC5s and a STD 300. Reasonably good mobility (i.e. better than a Dire or King Crab), and the dakka is strong.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

I just bought the Maulers , a La Carte for 35$.

The title+badge will be accessible 20.10., also for a La Carte ?

Edited by Titannium, 09 September 2015 - 08:48 AM.