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[Bilbo]

KraftySOT, on 11 September 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

Now do I do a shot if my Wubshee remains stronk, or do I do one if its been nerfwreckt. Or do two no matter what happens.

I'd go with two regardless.

[KraftySOT]

Give that man a raise. Ill give him two.

Edited by KraftySOT, 11 September 2015 - 10:46 AM.

[Mcgral18]

Cheetah-A has lost the 15 leg structure, and replaced with 0.2 Accel to each leg. 40% Accel boost?


The CHARLIE (you know, the P2W one) now has the +14 to each leg. There doesn't seem to be any heat quirks.

[FupDup]

It's hard to read these files, but so far I see some sensor quirks on the Adder and no weapon quirks...

What the ****?

The Adder was literally built as a combat light in the lore/fluff.

[Sarlic]

I'm curious.

Waiting it for to go live and login.

[KraftySOT]

Interesting, so they whacked it, just to re-arrange it. Strange.

Not a huge surprise theyre going to throw a bone to their constituents.

[Mcgral18]

The Banshee 3M has...lost...every single weapon quirk?

Current WubShee:

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="isppc_velocity_multiplier" value="0.20" />
    <Quirk name="laser_duration_multiplier" value="-0.10" />
    <Quirk name="energy_range_multiplier" value="0.10" />
    <Quirk name="ismediumlaser_cooldown_multiplier" value="0.075" />
    <Quirk name="energy_cooldown_multiplier" value="0.075" />
    <Quirk name="energy_heat_multiplier" value="-0.10" />
  </QuirkList>

Test Server:

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.15" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.15" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="11" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="10" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="10" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="10" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="10" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="10" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="10" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="4" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.825" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
  </QuirkList>

[Sarlic]

FupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 10:48 AM, said:

It's hard to read these files, but so far I see some sensor quirks on the Adder and no weapon quirks...

What the ****?

The Adder was literally built as a combat light in the lore/fluff.

Stealth Adder.

[FupDup]

Cauldron Born apparently has a few modest agility and structure quirks...okay then.

EDIT: Wait, I see one negative value for torso yaw speed.

Edited by FupDup, 11 September 2015 - 10:53 AM.

[Sarlic]

Mcgral18, on 11 September 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

The Banshee 3M has...lost...every single weapon quirk?

Current WubShee:

  <QuirkList>
	<Quirk name="isppc_velocity_multiplier" value="0.20" />
	<Quirk name="laser_duration_multiplier" value="-0.10" />
	<Quirk name="energy_range_multiplier" value="0.10" />
	<Quirk name="ismediumlaser_cooldown_multiplier" value="0.075" />
	<Quirk name="energy_cooldown_multiplier" value="0.075" />
	<Quirk name="energy_heat_multiplier" value="-0.10" />
  </QuirkList>

Test Server:

  <QuirkList>
	<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.15" />
	<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.15" />
	<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="11" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="4" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.825" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
	<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
  </QuirkList>

PGI said mechs would lose quirks or not. Perhaps alot of mech lost their quirks?

Edited by Sarlic, 11 September 2015 - 10:52 AM.

[Bilbo]

So, someone dig in there and let me know what they have done with my Atlas, please.

[KraftySOT]

<QuirkList>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.15" />
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="4" />
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.66" />
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
</QuirkList>


Dayum. Wubshee lost all its quirks lol.

3M has some extra IS.

[Mcgral18]

This must be only a partial copy...I don't see a SINGLE weapon quirk in every mech I've look into.

Dakka Dragon is gone, the 1N:

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.1" />
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.6" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.6" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.35" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="32" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="24" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="24" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="29" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="29" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="23" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="23" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="2" />
  </QuirkList>

Huggin lost all SRM quirks, but some hefty structure (HURRAY FOR MORE FALL DAMAGE)

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.5" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.5" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="22" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="16" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="16" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-1.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3" />
  </QuirkList>

Grid Iron lost the Gauss quirks, but has +48 in QUIRKS alone to the RT:

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-25" />
    <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="24" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="24" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="24" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="22" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="22" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="22" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="22" />
    <Quirk name="armorresist_rt_additive" value="24" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.6" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="4" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="0.5" />
  </QuirkList>

[KraftySOT]

Ouch you guys were ahead of me.

[Scout Derek]

Mcgral18, on 11 September 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

The Banshee 3M has...lost...every single weapon quirk?

Current WubShee:

  <QuirkList>
	<Quirk name="isppc_velocity_multiplier" value="0.20" />
	<Quirk name="laser_duration_multiplier" value="-0.10" />
	<Quirk name="energy_range_multiplier" value="0.10" />
	<Quirk name="ismediumlaser_cooldown_multiplier" value="0.075" />
	<Quirk name="energy_cooldown_multiplier" value="0.075" />
	<Quirk name="energy_heat_multiplier" value="-0.10" />
  </QuirkList>

Test Server:

  <QuirkList>
	<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.15" />
	<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.15" />
	<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="11" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="10" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="4" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.825" />
	<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2" />
	<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
	<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
  </QuirkList>

You think you could pull up all the mechs quirks? If you can and have the time, not demanding, just wondering

And was I right in the rough prediction of my sensor theory?

Edited by Scout Derek, 11 September 2015 - 10:57 AM.

[FupDup]

So far I haven't found ANY weapon quirks, so I think that those are now extinct. Yaw for every single mech in the game having sensor quirks and a few structure quirks! So unique, much differentiation, wow.

[Sarlic]

I think as expected? Russ stated he wanted to go back more to the roots. Sean Lang said most of the rediculous quirks would be gone.

Edited by Sarlic, 11 September 2015 - 10:56 AM.

[Alistair Winter]

FupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 10:48 AM, said:

It's hard to read these files, but so far I see some sensor quirks on the Adder and no weapon quirks...
What the ****?
The Adder was literally built as a combat light in the lore/fluff.

It's become increasingly obvious that PGI, and even the most hardcore MWO players, don't give two sh*ts about this line of reasoning. I personally do care about being loyal to mechs' original purpose in lore. But neither PGI nor most fans do anymore.

A lot of people like to posture and talk about how lore is super important to them... and they're still consistently playing with the most meta builds available, with no regard for lore at all. If people could run 8xMPL and an XL400 engine on the Mauler, most players wouldn't hesitate to turn that venerable long range support mech into a fast brawler. They'd do it at the drop of a dime.

[KraftySOT]

Nova has NO quirks other than some IS on one pod.

..

[Mcgral18]

Also....LOL, Victor. It's so Terribad.

+10 to the CT, in structure
+9 to STs
+8 to arms and legs.