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#241 Luscious Dan

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:38 AM

View PostKodyn, on 18 September 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:



Zero disconnects. Because I don't DC after dying, ever, and haven't gotten any random DCs or interweb burps.

I think you only get them on the counter if you DC, whether before or after you die, you DC, you get a DC counter.

I know they weren't supposed to penalize you for leaving after death, but really...it's not illogical that leaving= disco counter. Bugged or not, it's not confusing.


Stay in the match, relay targeting info to teammates ("Timberwolf in B4 that killed me has a weak CT" or "Left torso almost destroyed on that Jager, likely running XL engine") etc. to help them win, and you can possibly even improve your score. If you let your team get rolled, no assists for you. If you help them kill the guys you were fighting, you could end up getting assists, kill/most damage dealt, etc.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:39 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 18 September 2015 - 05:38 AM, said:

yes, because he was hitting 10 mechs, which means in worst case this is 50 damage per mech,

Please do share with us a video of you ''sweeping over people" and doing 50 damage to 10 of them. Cause, even though I don't "sweep over people", I just can't imagine how doing that could add up to 500 points of damage, even if they were standing shoulder to shoulder the whole time, with no gaps in between ;)


View PostLily from animove, on 18 September 2015 - 05:38 AM, said:

yes we alreay gave PGI the feedbakc that this system si nto very good in terms of judging skill. I wonder if lrm builds o pointless ac stripping builds will eb used for this, people better undust their DRG 1N's and similar builds.

On this we can agree.

#243 PeeWrinkle

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:39 AM

This is an awesome sounding event! I am just bummed that I won't be able to participate this weekend! :( SAD FACE!!!! LOL

#244 White Bear 84

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:48 AM

View Postcoe7, on 18 September 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

Nothing against the players here, they are just playing the system, but <WHO?> for example, just quickly did what damage he could at start and then headed to play ultrasafe, not contributing much to the ongoing fight.. Same for <WHO?> on enemy team.


Fair enough trying to make a point.. ..BUT, you have just 100% broken the CoC in regards to naming an shaming. Just saying..

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:53 AM

View PostOdanan, on 17 September 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Is that the new Caustic Valley map? :o

I only came to this thread to ask the same thing. Congrats, Odanan, you beat me to it.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:56 AM

View Postwfischer, on 18 September 2015 - 08:53 AM, said:

I only came to this thread to ask the same thing. Congrats, Odanan, you beat me to it.

Interesting point. Didn't even really pay attention to the graphic :D

I don't know if anyone else picked up on this, but no Terra Therma or Alpine for the whole weekend is another part of this event. Lots of little side benefits here no one is picking up on :D

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:57 AM

Total Disconnection: 1.
I have NOT disconnected a single time since the start of this event.
Each time was AFTER I was destroyed.


Damn it, if you place a penalty, make sur it does work!
I won't tolerate being not rewarded because that system can't make a difference between a disconnection destroyed or alive.

#248 coe7

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:57 AM

View PostWhite Bear 84, on 18 September 2015 - 08:48 AM, said:


Fair enough trying to make a point.. ..BUT, you have just 100% broken the CoC in regards to naming an shaming. Just saying..


Its not naming and shaming if they play the system to their advantage. I will 100% do the same and get my scores done. Its smart way to play it with the current scoring system. I applaud them.

However, I agree with you that PGI mods might not understand that some play this game to win it so I changed the post a bit. Thank you for the heads up.

I have nothing against playing the system to your advantage, my critique was 100% towards the scoring system, not the players using it to their advantage.

Edited by coe7, 18 September 2015 - 09:07 AM.


#249 Kodyn

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:58 AM

View PostBilbo, on 18 September 2015 - 08:31 AM, said:

Bugged is bugged, especially when their rules state the the penalty is for DC before death.



I'm not saying that it isn't messed up that the rules say you can leave after death, yet they penalize you for doing just that.

What I'm saying is that it's a clear connection- you leave the match early, despite the rules, and you get a DC counter. People are acting like this is a difficult concept. Either assume they will remove all DCs from everyone since the event is borked, or stop DCing early if you're worried.

My whole point was that there doesn't seem to be DCs occurring when you don't DC at all....

#250 Nexano

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:59 AM

Left from combat after death. got 2 DC count. Srsly PGI.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:04 AM

Saw a fix applied to my account! Thanks Dev's it will still be a miracle if I get a prize pack!

#252 White Bear 84

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:07 AM

View Postcoe7, on 18 September 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

However, I agree with you that PGI mods might not understand that some play this game to win it so I changed the post a bit.

I have nothing against playing the system to your advantage, my critique was 100% towards the scoring system, not the players using it to their advantage.


Just the calling out specific players bits..

I like your reply though - you do make a valid point.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:09 AM

Hello everyone

We will be removing the disconnect condition from the event.
Remember though even if you are qualified as Tier 2 for a Map you can always try and get a higher match score and climb the ranks of the leader board.

And that is a screen from the Caustic Valley update.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:11 AM

View PostLuscious Dan, on 18 September 2015 - 08:04 AM, said:

I've had a few match scores from 600-800 during most gaming sessions lately, I don't see it being too hard to get the Tier 2 award. Cracking the top 10 though will be tough, since I don't play nearly as many games as some folks and I don't actively try to game the system at all.

Granted, we just need to accept the challenge for what it is - a damage based metric. So to "do good" in terms of this tourney, you need to rack up numbers, not kill/disable everything in sight with (a) well placed shot(s) as soon as possible.

Getting into a "heavier" game also helps, as we are most likely going to score more damage before downing the opponents.

View PostAppogee, on 18 September 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:

Please do share with us a video of you ''sweeping over people" and doing 50 damage to 10 of them. Cause, even though I don't "sweep over people", I just can't imagine how doing that could add up to 500 points of damage, even if they were standing shoulder to shoulder the whole time, with no gaps in between ;)

Does spitting a salvo of LRMs from an LRM boat at every enemy count as "sweeping"? :) Because that is probably the way to do it - hitting 10 'Mechs for ~50 damage all over the place.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:17 AM

View PostMatt Newman, on 18 September 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

Hello everyone

We will be removing the disconnect condition from the event.
Remember though even if you are qualified as Tier 2 for a Map you can always try and get a higher match score and climb the ranks of the leader board.

And that is a screen from the Caustic Valley update.


That's good to hear. Now, please never put that condition back in unless you've done a thorough QA test of all possible outcomes/situations.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:20 AM

View PostMatt Newman, on 18 September 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

Hello everyone

We will be removing the disconnect condition from the event.
Remember though even if you are qualified as Tier 2 for a Map you can always try and get a higher match score and climb the ranks of the leader board.

And that is a screen from the Caustic Valley update.


Caustic Valley update? Screen? Where? What?

#257 Redoxin

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:21 AM

View PostMatt Newman, on 18 September 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

Hello everyone

We will be removing the disconnect condition from the event.
Remember though even if you are qualified as Tier 2 for a Map you can always try and get a higher match score and climb the ranks of the leader board.

And that is a screen from the Caustic Valley update.

Not surprised at all distinguishing between DCs before and after death didnt work. Which is why I never DCed even if I died.
I just dont get why you guys did not see these problems coming.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:26 AM

View PostMatt Newman, on 18 September 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

Hello everyone

We will be removing the disconnect condition from the event.
Remember though even if you are qualified as Tier 2 for a Map you can always try and get a higher match score and climb the ranks of the leader board.

And that is a screen from the Caustic Valley update.


TY

View PostDeathlike, on 18 September 2015 - 09:17 AM, said:


That's good to hear. Now, please never put that condition back in unless you've done a thorough QA test of all possible outcomes/situations.


plz employ deathlike 4 QA.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:26 AM

View PostRedoxin, on 18 September 2015 - 09:21 AM, said:


I just dont get why you guys did not see these problems coming.


Think about that statement for a moment. Then think about whom you made the statement about.

Ok, I think you have it now.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:28 AM

View Postcoe7, on 18 September 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:


Its not naming and shaming if they play the system to their advantage. I will 100% do the same and get my scores done. Its smart way to play it with the current scoring system. I applaud them.

However, I agree with you that PGI mods might not understand that some play this game to win it so I changed the post a bit. Thank you for the heads up.

I have nothing against playing the system to your advantage, my critique was 100% towards the scoring system, not the players using it to their advantage.

Getting a high match score/high damage also gets you more CB than just winning. So the reward system works just the same outside of this challenge as well. So really the general playstyle should not change at all. It is just the same as always.

Edited by Redoxin, 18 September 2015 - 09:28 AM.






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