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[Nightmare1]

To those people who intentionally sabotaged their teams by disconnecting...







...I don't care what your pathetic excuses may be, to disco at the start of the match evidences a staggering lack of personal integrity and sportsmanship. Yes, the Event was bad and broken. However, that cannot and does not excuse your horribly unsportsmanlike behavior and the disrespect you showed other players.

Case in point, on one of the only three times I got Mining Collective over the weekend, the hardest map for me to get from the MM, THREE pilots (two of them Assaults) disco'd immediately, effectively negating any chance my team had of doing well. The ROFLStomp was over so quickly that nobody made their match scores.

Forest Colony: Three discos, all Assaults.

HPG: Three discos, mixed Mechs.

You get the picture. To have ONE-QUARTER of your team quit before the match starts is one of the lowest and most selfish things that those pilots could do.

To those scumbags I say this: Either play the game despite whatever it throws at you, or uninstall now. I don't ever want to see your sorry faces around here again.

Just a personal note, I did not disco a single time during this event, and did my best to help my teams even on those maps that I did not need. That is sportsmanship and that is what you pathetic excuses for a MechWarrior should have been doing as well.

[Kira Onime]

AssaultPig, on 21 September 2015 - 04:55 PM, said:

players behaving badly is a totally predictable response to a scenario they created.

And it is not excusable.

[AssaultPig]

Kira_Onime, on 21 September 2015 - 05:01 PM, said:

And it is not excusable.

why not

[Spare Parts Bin]

Wow I see alot of ugliness on parade. I from time to time Iwill "Suicide" not be cause I am trying to die. Those are the times I am trying my hardest. The last time I hit override I had a Battlemaster on the ropes then I exploded. I was in an Adder with 1 LPL,2 ERMLs,2 ERSLs and not enough Heatsinks.

[Kira Onime]

AssaultPig, on 21 September 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

why not

You really need someone to explain to you why quitting out on 11 other teammates is a **** move?

[PholkLorr]

You know, if pgi designed the tournament properly. Ie. Not have a map requirement, just get 10 matches with over 300 pts, this problem would cease to exist.

There would not even be a need for a DC counter (which u is useless anyway because suicide - >DC works).

PGi designed a tournament that produced this behaviour. Bad design by Dev is bad design by Dev. If design wasn't bad, bad behaviour would not have existed.

[KodiakGW]

Signed on to get some pre NBT drop practice.

One disco first drop.
Two on second drop.
One on the third - a Dire Wolf.

All on my team.

Excellent tournament idea.

[AssaultPig]

no

I asked why it wasn't excuseable

[Vlad Ward]

Like, I get why people did this. But they shouldn't be surprised by a punishment of some sort. A light suspension is no big deal, and I'd imagine it was 'worth it' for the people most heavily abusing this. So what's the harm?

It's not like anyone's getting banned, either. This was a huge, chronic problem for this event. Suspensions are a fair way of dealing with the most egregious offenders. It's proportional.

Sure, you'll always have the occasional mouth breather who insists that anyone using the MW2 sound pack be permabanned, but they're not the ones making decisions. There's no real point in arguing with them, or insisting that "all's fair because design."

Edited by Vlad Ward, 21 September 2015 - 05:13 PM.

[Kira Onime]

PholkLorr, on 21 September 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

PGi designed a tournament that produced this behaviour. Bad design by Dev is bad design by Dev. If design wasn't bad, bad behaviour would not have existed.

Doesn't matter. Even if the developper does something that has the unintended side effect of cause people to be {Richard Cameron}, then it falls onto the player to not be a ****.
You are responsible for your own actions. Trying to pull the blame away is not the way to do it.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

So if you DC at the start of a match, keep the time and date and such, as you may get suspended for it.

I mean my computer exploded for a while there when I hit Bog or the new forest colony and it was a full on blue screen doom type thing so by the time I got the computer restarted and back into the game, it was over. That lasted a while till I took apart my computer, took apart the liquid cooling system and cleaned everything out.

But yea, they have to do something about ppl that do it intentionally, which is why I say keep a running tally (a notebook file or something) when it happens to you so you can email it to support if youre actually having technical issues rather than doing it on purpose in case you get hit for something like that

Also, funny to see the vitriol against ppl that do this is more than there was against the ppl who got banned for cheating and were allowed to bypass that ban to make new accounts (which in itself breaks the rules by the way).

PholkLorr, on 21 September 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

You know, if pgi designed the tournament properly. Ie. Not have a map requirement, just get 10 matches with over 300 pts, this problem would cease to exist.

gotta agree

[riverslq]

219 on crimson straight that time
team got rolled too quick
yeah, rng
you rock
**** events that require random ********

[crashlogic]

So we should strictly enforece the TOS at all times? How about the clause in the TOS against personal attacks in the forums? Should that be strictly enforced? Of course ad-hominem statements like those given in responses to my argumetns in this forum are logically fallacious and the resort of a failure to argue the facts. As is of course ignoring the premise to repeated state the obvious.
But really we should have the death penalty for parking tickets because proportionality is immaterial when someone selfishly interferes with our ability to get the scores we need. Environmental conditions are never a mitigatiung or contributing factor to anyone's behavior. YOu knew you were speeding, even though the speed limit sign was wrong. Death for you!
Becaus e oh my god PGIS failure couldn't possibly create conditions where players feel amazing frustrated and do and say stupid ****. Lets just ban everyone for just disagreeing. I mean I should be kicked off the forums right? Is that what you sasaid? What part of the TOS did I violate? Or should I be banned for not agreeing with the OP? Wow forced agreement is what forums are all about?
So we want a TOS with banning as the only punishment, we don't want to consider the context of anyone's actions, and we don't want to have empthay or understanding. Nor do we really want to look at the cause, we want to ignore the 800 pound elephant in the room. This is the community you want?
Oh yes and PGI is sacred and gives us free stuff so nobody should hold them accountable at all? Especially when last weeked there were virtually no DC's or suicides, and this weekedn they are endemic? I wonder what changed? The players? Or the game? Oh yeah, this event did not happen last weekend. hmmmmmmm
but there is no logic in anyof this I am just an illogical millenial tool who is idiotic and donald trump? wow....

[Kira Onime]

Mister Blastman, on 21 September 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

You Sir, for a boy with "logic" in his name, are not logical, at all.

[Damien Tokala]

You pretty much are, this is a game, the rules were laid out, and they were then broken by people who refused to play by the rules. We're not asking pgi to go shoot these people, we're asking they be punished more sternly.

[Yokaiko]

The TOS is like a credit card contract they can basically ban you for whatever whenever its all in there somewhere.

[Ghogiel]

lol salty over people DCing in ****** pug matches.

[Novakaine]

PholkLorr, on 21 September 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

While DCers and suiciders should take some of the blame, most of the blame will have to fall on PGI. They designed a challenge that encouraged such behaviour. BY DESIGN.

That is the meta during the challenge. Just like how laser vomit is the best way to play. So if you want to min max for efficiency (or just plain pissed off with not getting the map you need), the game design encourages ppl to play or build a certain way.

Bro just stop.

Edited by Novakaine, 21 September 2015 - 05:30 PM.

[Star Wolves Admin Account]

Damien Tokala, on 21 September 2015 - 05:25 PM, said:

You pretty much are, this is a game, the rules were laid out, and they were then broken by people who refused to play by the rules. We're not asking pgi to go shoot these people, we're asking they be punished more sternly.

Perhaps we could construct some sort of elaborate spanking machine. Given your perchance for discipline PGI could hire you to use it upon all the "children" in the community.

Likewise as was rightly pointed out discussing disciplinary action is also against the TOS which means PGI will have to deploy the spanking machine upon you as well. They are going to discipline you so hard you might begin to like it.

So since this is technically against the TOS as was recently clarified by PGI perhaps we let this thread die? After all, I would hate for you to be disciplined.

[Novakaine]

Damien Tokala, on 21 September 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

Why do you insist on defending the fact that these people abused the system for their own gain? Furthermore you defend their ignorance of the TOS, which clearly states that they are not allowed to do what they just did!