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[Greyhart]

On the up side the PSR gives you a reason to play those mechs that you have already mastered rather than just grinding out mechs.

look at is as a way to measure if youre improving.

Tiers really mean nothing. As can be seen by the posts today they seem to be all over the place. And I have not seen a single post telling someone that they are bad because of their tier yet.

[Raggedyman]

izzycat218, on 23 September 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

I've piloted just about every IS mech in the game for short periods of time leading to low stats. But I feel that this doesn't accurately show my skill. I do a lot of group que where we face some of the comp groups where I keep up with the pack. It feels like I've been penalized for playing a variety of mechs instead of staying in my best performers. Anyone else feel this way?

Not really, as I don't care what my Tier is. Yeah, it would be nice to have a fancy score tag to show off. But it's more fun to drop playing what I want and how I want, especially as their is no in-game penalty for your Tier. Plus you don't get a penalty for being in Not Tier 1, what you get it (theoretically) put among people of equal-ish skill so you can have a solid game experience.

If you want to raise your Tier then I'm sure there are guides on how to max it out and charge up the listings, as where there is a rules set and maths there is a way to min-max the outcome. But if it isn't worth it for you (not a bad thing, not a good thing, just a thing) then don't bother with it and just focus on enjoying your game.

[Felbombling]

Leveling up Mechs will most certainly affect your tier ranking. I am the same as you. I have a handful of Mechs that are Mastered, only one Elite chassis with the extra slot unlocked, and a slew of Mechs still working on their basic skills. I landed exactly where I thought I would... tier 4, on the cusp of tier 3. Don't sweat your ranking. I'd think being in tier 5 would actually be more fun, overall.

[Raggedyman]

Greyhart, on 23 September 2015 - 08:11 AM, said:

And I have not seen a single post telling someone that they are bad because of their tier yet.

And if you do see anyone doing that then please let people know, as I'm quite sure a lot of folks of all Tier ranges would like to tell that person exactly which exhaust-port they can mail that attitude problem to.

[Thomas G Wolf]

Son I am too busy trying to master my 200 mechs (yes I am a monster Whale and proud of it I still have to buy lots more to come even close to my miniature collection of mechs though) to worry about what tier I am in, look at it this way if you know that you were put in a tier that is under your skill level, enjoy the farming of exp and credits, right now I am happy if I make 200 damage a game in my Urbans and I still have to master my spider pack (not looking forward to the hero mech there) and I never do the meta thing because it is no fun for me, I enjoy my strange builds, I play for fun not for stats, once I have mastered my Mechs I will have something else to aim for e.g. making sure that all my mechs have a positive win/lose ratio and so on.
If your self esteem depends on what tier you are in MWO then you are doing something wrong, it should not worry you in the least. My tip enjoy the game the rest will come by itself.

Edited by Eric Wulfen, 23 September 2015 - 08:20 AM.

[DelRico]

StaggerCheck, on 23 September 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

Leveling up Mechs will most certainly affect your tier ranking. I am the same as you. I have a handful of Mechs that are Mastered, only one Elite chassis with the extra slot unlocked, and a slew of Mechs still working on their basic skills. I landed exactly where I thought I would... tier 4, on the cusp of tier 3. Don't sweat your ranking. I'd think being in tier 5 would actually be more fun, overall.

Thats about the same story as mine.. I like to test and tweak less common Mechs, and this made me land in tier 4... But yesterday I took out one of my fine builds for a walk and I just kept killing people...

[Bishop Steiner]

izzycat218, on 23 September 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

It not that the number I'm in that bothers me. It the way the comunity treat those with the number. If it's damage based then that makes more sense to me. I ran the tag and narc raven long before there were rewards for doing so. The others reason for my low stats is impatience and aggression. Can't stand stationary poke wars and Nasscar. In the end my true issue is the community's reaction towards low tier players.

tryhards are just MAD cuz they BAD IRL, and their mommy never hugs them, so they treat people like crap over their imaginary video game awards, because it's all they have to cling to as a "success" in life.

The exceptions are pretty self apparent by their lack of need to act as swaggering dbags on stompy game forums.

Treat them as such, and it's pretty easy to ignore their epeenions.

[izzycat218]

Sounds like I'll keep running my ac2,ac5 4med lasor enforcer putting out 450 damage a game that makes heavies and assaults flee from my 50tons lol

[nehebkau]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 September 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

tryhards are just MAD cuz they BAD IRL, and their mommy never hugs them, so they treat people like crap over their imaginary video game awards, because it's all they have to cling to as a "success" in life.

The exceptions are pretty self apparent by their lack of need to act as swaggering dbags on stompy game forums.

Treat them as such, and it's pretty easy to ignore their epeenions.

Yep, before anyone brags about their tier they MUST post their mech usage stat. If the majority of their time is spent in clan heavy metas then -- ignore them.

Edited by nehebkau, 23 September 2015 - 08:33 AM.

[Wolfwood592]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 September 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

tryhards are just MAD cuz they BAD IRL, and their mommy never hugs them, so they treat people like crap over their imaginary video game awards, because it's all they have to cling to as a "success" in life.

The exceptions are pretty self apparent by their lack of need to act as swaggering dbags on stompy game forums.

Treat them as such, and it's pretty easy to ignore their epeenions.

Quote of the day and 100% valid

[Bishop Steiner]

izzycat218, on 23 September 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

Sounds like I'll keep running my ac2,ac5 4med lasor enforcer putting out 450 damage a game that makes heavies and assaults flee from my 50tons lol

number one thing I have against posted stats.....people stop playing for fun, and worry too much about spreadsheets.

Screw the numbers...... play how it makes you actually ENJOY the game.

[CDLord HHGD]

nehebkau, on 23 September 2015 - 07:45 AM, said:

Dude, don't worry bout tier 5. It takes a LOT of games to progress to the next tier. On Reddit Paul I. indicated that a player could expect to play 2500 games to get to tier 2 if they had excellent games the way along. So if you aren't playing meta mechs all the time you are not going to progress to quickly.

Honestly, I bet you have a crapload more fun than the tier 1 and 2 players who always have to drop in their meta mech timberwolves.

Tiers should have their names changed to :

"I am a Clan Meta Mech Obssessive compulsive" tier (1)
"I Clan & IS Meta Mech" competitive tier (2)
"I play fun optimized mechs" regular player tier (3)
"Lets see how this works I've never tried it before" tier(4)
"I don't care about damage I want MORE FUN! FIRE ALL THE FLAMERS!" tier(5)

And yes, you are penalized for not playing a meta-TBR. Just accept the craptastic nature of that function of PSR. I accept that I am in the Tier I am because I play, almost exclusively, light mechs (meaning 90% of my games are in lights).

----- EDIT ----

OP, realize that the Tier system is not intended to promote the meta players away from you because you are somehow worse. The the Tier system is intended to remove the "You all suck NOOB SCRUB" fun-sucking win at any cost players, the "Why did you boat LRMs you stooge!" players from your game so that you don't have to deal with that crap and can just have a great game. The ranking goes Tier1: "Its work, not fun" Tier 5: "Tis' all fun ARRGRH!"

So much this! I am proud of my Tier 3 rating, but would LOVE a Tier 5 rating even more. The fewer tryhards I engage, the better.

[MechaBattler]

I don't own a single Clan mech. Somehow I'm still middling at tier 3. Though I was hoping I'd be tier 5 for the giggles. It probably has more to do with the fact you play more group queue. Comp groups are going to bring more meta, which means more Clan mechs. Single queue it's much more mixed bag and puts it more heavily on the individual pilot to intuit what the group is doing.

[izzycat218]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 September 2015 - 08:31 AM, said:

number one thing I have against posted stats.....people stop playing for fun, and worry too much about spreadsheets.

Screw the numbers...... play how it makes you actually ENJOY the game.

Says the Humble Tire 1 players. Thanks

[0bsidion]

izzycat218, on 23 September 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

Sounds like I'll keep running my ac2,ac5 4med lasor enforcer putting out 450 damage a game that makes heavies and assaults flee from my 50tons lol

If that's fun for you, go for it. It's a game, so that's kinda the point. I run around in Novas and Mad Dogs while my Timberwolves and Stormcrows collect dust, so I'm all about that. I've got a dual UAC2 Nova I get a huge kick out of playing. I'm pretty much the only one I've ever seen running that build, but I don't let that stop me.

[Steinar Bergstol]

izzycat218, on 23 September 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

It not that the number I'm in that bothers me. It the way the comunity treat those with the number. If it's damage based then that makes more sense to me. I ran the tag and narc raven long before there were rewards for doing so. The others reason for my low stats is impatience and aggression. Can't stand stationary poke wars and Nasscar. In the end my true issue is the community's reaction towards low tier players.

If some members of the community get their giant e-peen stuck up their posteriors about being a higher tier than you then might I suggest, in the wise words of Monty Python, informing them that you fart in their general direction? Low Tier Pride, my friend! Low Tier Pride! It's where the fun is!

[izzycat218]

Before I joined a group I was solo atlas pilot that did well. Nowdays I drop solo once a month. My group has shrunk from 30 regular players to 4 of us. We face 12s and 8s all the time. I have noticed as my teamwork skills have grown my individual pilot skills have deteriorated. I also don't play everyday and that has my skill to drop as well. I'm fine with the last one need a life outside of gaming. I think some of us like minded tier 5 players should group up. I want a team that forces the brawl and stops the nascar poke war. That's my dream.

Edited by izzycat218, 23 September 2015 - 08:41 AM.

[Jesse_Blue]

There is soo much false info about PSR when its so easy

I have watched the bar react to my games and its like a EVERQUEST1 XP bar ... do good matches and it goes up SLOW, do not soooo good and it goes down a bit again... if you play enough games and overall you do more often good then not then ALL will be Tier 1 after thousands of games like all became lvl 60 back in 1999 it just takes TIME.
Like back then it was possible to speed up the process by quad kiting = LRM boating or Dire 6xUAC5ing in MWO

I can say that even a small score, like death with 200pts in a WIN gives me a PSR plus but I need around 500dmg in a loss Match to NOT LOOSE PSR.
Well any more questions and I'm happy to answer more clearly if needed...

I have started MWO again 3 weeks ago after two year break and went up the Tiers pretty quick for that. I have only 500 matches and I'm pretty close to Tier 2 now. However since I started to play more serious again, to get the torunament done, I score top or at least top 3 in 90% of my matches, so this could explain it...

Edited by The Avatar, 23 September 2015 - 08:44 AM.

[CDLord HHGD]

izzycat218, on 23 September 2015 - 08:33 AM, said:

Says the Humble Tire 1 players. Thanks

Bish isn't Tier 1 (I think from another thread), make no assumptions.

Also...

http://mwomercs.com/...ier-5s-rejoice/

[Koniks]

The game offers plenty of incentives for different players.

Want to win and be part of the master race? Run the meta and get carried in group queue until you're max Tier 1.

Want to play casually and have fun? Do you, fill your mechlab like it's Pokemon, and grind out the CBills and GXP for all those modules.

Need badges? Go farm 100 DCs for the headshot achievement.