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[Mad Porthos]

I am happy with the state of the game. How or why, you may ask, given that I have been here since closed beta and seen what others might describe as BS, mistakes and a million other less copacetic adjectives? So simple really. I liked battletech, I liked mechwarrior whether it be roleplaying game, table top or video game... even the simulator pods, but I did not grow up feeling I owned it. Simply put, we live in a materialistic society, a consumerist society and it has infused everything and everyone around us. We spend money and want our product and we want it now. We utter inane quotes like, "The customer is always right..." and believe that we live in a place where our money gives us the power to buy what we want and that if we get it, we will find happiness.

The thing is, you can't own a video game. You can't own someone else's creative endeavour that is continually being altered, improved and tweaked. And if you decide that you have the right to criticize someone else's creative endeavour that you "bought" because they didn't listen to your advice, or didn't do some aspect smarter... all you are doing is setting yourself up for immense dissatisfaction with the world and everything in it.

I play Mechwarrior Online as the game it is, the offering it is from a group of people who were intrigued enough with the concept of giant stompy robots to make this offering, rather than leave it vaporware stillborn due to threats from Harmony Gold Patent Trolls. If they had not done this, there would be nothing other than the board games out there and maybe Catalyst's offerings. The fact that Mechwarrior Online even has the numbers of people it does have is a good thing, it has given enough interest and hope in the IP that it could actually make those folks at Harebrained Schemes decide to do the Battletech Kickstarter. It might even have given Catalyst reason to put forth more time and effort on new printings and editions of Battletech content, knowing that there is not just a hobby gamer element out there with ancient lead miniatures and hex maps.

No, it's not the game everyone wanted. It never would have been. Just giving money to it never would have made it "your" game anyways. "Your" threat of taking your money/toys/love and leaving won't stop it. The only people this game belongs to are the people who create it. And as their group creation, they could just say the heck with this and close up shop. I hope they don't. But at times it has been insane. There have been so many people invested in being right, proving that since PGI doesn't listen to their perfect ideas and implement them, that the whole thing is doomed and is on the verge of failure. They campaign, they troll, they write articles and they gripe on these and other forums in an effort to make the environment so toxic that their reality comes true. They trot out every little meme in existance, to catch attention to their campaign and that has in some regards worked. They have made it hard for casually interested gamers to invest in this game or community. Given that, I wouldn't blame those people who create this game for giving up - but as a whole they have not. They've had turn over of staff, both normal to go on to other projects and events in their lives, as well as those disenchanted with the project itself, wishing to work on other themes and personal goals. But they are still trying so I am still here.

[MechaBattler]

I'm still enjoying playing in solo and in group. The balance is being addressed again, so waiting to see how it changes. The only thing I'm not happy about is CW. At this point I'd be happier with CW queue, no universe map, just random contracts. That would be more interesting at this point. Russ said they're back to work on CW phase 3. But last we heard about that. It didn't sound like they were going to do anything truly interesting. Just the ability to buy stuff with your unit cash. None of which was very interesting to me.

And of course. The grind... not happy with that. Even with premium time it just feels like it takes forever to get anything.

[Kh0rn]

Closed beta kept me but now, now I am rarely on even on any more the game for myself has gone down hill its moving away from the simulation feeling and its going towards more of a arcade like feeling so for now Im taking a very long extended break and gone back to MWLL.

After playing MWLL and War thunder I now see so much more that could of been done for this game.

Edited by Kh0rn, 25 October 2015 - 08:53 AM.

[BigBenn]

Generally Satisfied? Yes.

100% Satisfied? No. I'm having fun and enjoying it regardless.

I think PGI could make some changes to the CW cycle to include maps like Alpine in skirmish mode and increase velocities of the PPC's and ballistics. Those are the two areas that I believe PGI has fallen short.

[Jon Gotham]

GonaDie, on 25 October 2015 - 05:38 AM, said:

I don't want this to be a solo game. I never said that.

I know mate! Just used your post to make my point, wasn't aimed at you fella:)

[GRiPSViGiL]

This game has been a "What could have been" tragedy to me. It had such potential. I still check in to see if anything changes knowing it won't. I put my money into the game to support it but it is all to clear that incompetence is at the helm. If they can get CW developed to an acceptable point I may make a return. I refuse to collect mechs and play team death match anymore.

[Zypher]

As a whole I am disappointed where the game is now. It just seems with the tech out there today the game would have more depth. However, just because I am disappointed doesn't mean I still can't have fun, I just keep my expectations low. When I need a quick fix for the BT universe, I jump into MWO and play until I stop having fun, which usually means when I'm losing too many matches, or when I get bored of the repetitive gameplay.

It's not to say the devs did a bad job, I just think one of two things happened. They bit of more than they could chew, or the opposite, the vision was just too grand for the resources they had at their disposal.

Knowing what I do, working in the corporate world with projects and developing software, makes me feel bad for the devs, you could have the best artists, coders, network engineers around etc, but if those above are running the show you are limited by what they ask and what they give.

Edited by Zypher, 25 October 2015 - 09:08 AM.

[Kraftwerkedup]

As long as theres people to shoot who get mad at how good I shoot their gundams...Ill always be here.

That said. Nope. The game is trash compared to what it should be.

[Karamarka]

sunk cost fallacy keeps me playing

but it's quite good when the teams are matched nicely....

although ACH making my mist lynxes totally useless grinds my gears.

[MechWarrior5152251]

I was going to try MWLL just for the Elementals. When they add single player everyone who loved MW will come back.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Khobai, on 25 October 2015 - 04:51 AM, said:

This game is still fun.

But it was MUCH more fun in beta when we had 8v8, knockdowns, and weapons with some semblance of balance.

and better graphics. How does that happen?!

[Valdarion Silarius]

After taking a long hiatus from the game, then returning for the unseen mechs, I feel that the game still needs polishing before giving it a proper mechwarrior title. That is still not to say that the game is fun, but it has the potential to be better than what it currently is.

Now it is human nature for people to ***** and complain about everything. I used to play the beta where mechs could be knocked down, and when there was no Gauss rifle charge up times (thanks player base for complaining about OP Gauss rifles). I miss these features and hope PGI does a better re balancing of the Gauss rifles in the future.

What I do appreciate is PGI having a spine and standing behind their product in terms of mech designs. I developed a new respect for Russ for not cowering out from the whole entire HG fiasco. To show my gratitude I purchased a marauder mech package (even though im not a fan of IS mechs, I still want to see the release of more unseens from the clan side). I think it would be logical to strive for the classic unseens from Mechwarrior 2 before pushing to a steam release.

I still have hopes for the game, but my final view about the general game itself is still inconclusive as of right now.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 25 October 2015 - 09:33 AM.

[JaxRiot]

I like the game mostly because I liked playing Battletech table top when I was young and a couple of the Mechwarrior games.

I really enjoy the ambiance in the game. The visuals and the sounds are awesome. The custom mechs and how the new weapons show on the mechs is nine kinds of cool.

But I think they strayed too far from the original IP. When I started at the beginning of the year, I seen how ECM works, and how Alpha strikes work, and how heat works, and all I kept thinking was- "I dont remember that being the way this works. I dont think thats supposed to be the way any of that works".

So the game has problems. ECM overload. LRMs being junk. Laser vomit is king. Versatile mechs are near useless. Only certain mechs with certain builds are considered viable, ect ect.

So even though I do still like the game, Im not happy enough with it to spend money on it any more (havnt bought anything in 5 months or so) so I guess Im not 'Sincerely" happy with it.

I do have hope though. The new balance pass looks promising and hopefully CW phase 3 delivers something fresh.

[General Taskeen]

MechWarrior5152251, on 25 October 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

When they add single player everyone who loved MW will come back.

Nope.

[Astrocanis]

Zypher, on 25 October 2015 - 09:07 AM, said:

I just keep my expectations low.

You have to.

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if those above are running the show you are limited by what they ask and what they give.

I would go further. I'm currently CTO for a development company. I've been developing all kinds of software for far too long. I state this without equivocation: All problems within an organization and its products are the DIRECT result of management.

Period.

[Vlad Striker]

I'm very happy - this game needs only 1-2 button to be successful! At it have unique game style - not MMOGPG, not CoD or BF.

[Gas Guzzler]

Still my favorite game so...

And why do people hate PSR so much? I haven't noticed THAT much of a difference, except higher C-Bill earnings, but what can be wrong with that?

[SkyHammyr]

Yes.

And when Single Player finally arrives, I can finally be rid of you Cryhards.

[Gas Guzzler]

Astrocanis, on 25 October 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

I think I may have played my last game today. Between instagibs on larger mechs and semi-invulnerable lights, inability to see and being forced to use night or heat vision in broad daylight on the "new improved maps", the overall state of the game resembles misery closer than fun. Today I encountered an AFK (AFK!!!!) wolfhound. I shot him over a dozen times in the CT while both of us were stationary and his armor turned orange. This with 1 LL and 2 MPL. Horse ****. Also, I have been headshot FOUR TIMES since last night while moving in my raven. FOUR TIMES in less than 24 hours. More Horse ****.

You do realize that disconnects have severe hit reg issues and/or damage reduction (in CW anyway) right?

[Astrocanis]

Gas Guzzler, on 25 October 2015 - 09:49 AM, said:

You do realize that disconnects have severe hit reg issues and/or damage reduction (in CW anyway) right?

No. But given that hits are registered server side and my client should have position updated when we are both stationary, that would point to even worse problems with their network code and host state rewind. If my reticle shows damage and ANY damage is recorded in the area that I'm shooting, given that I am showing damage at the client, the server should (given half-assed HSR) be able to at least approximate the damage.

In any case, it's not just that: go to one of the practice areas, Caustic, for instance, and shoot at the atlas or the cataphract. Tell me that hitreg is fine. Make sure to try a variety of weapons - my favorite for hits that show a hit in the reticle but record almost no damage is the PPC, but yours may vary.

Edited by Astrocanis, 25 October 2015 - 09:55 AM.