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[Azrael0815]

NO.. i will NOT buy Mechs which are too expansive just to get a new Jägermech (seriously 55$ if I want to get them all ? - thats nearly the price of a PC computer game)

Give us BACK the CHOICE to choose the gamemodes
I am tired of playing modes I do not like. Also cut down the selection of maps from 4 to lets say 2 (less maps to select increases the chance to also see the maps which are now "gone")
I am TIRED of playing the same maps for 3 or 4 times in a row

[Arkhangel]

somehow, i doubt the rifleman sales suck.. mainly because people who actually LIKE the mech are buying it. they're not here to cater to whiners (mostly the people who go "the quirks better be good" and never bother actually looking at hardpoint layout or the actual coolness of the mech itself).

though i do agree about the mode selector. that should really be set pre-match, and you vote on the maps. ALL the maps.

honestly, other then the rebalance and re-quirkening, i'm hoping CW phase 3 adds Front Warfare. Clans should not have been able to advance anywhere near as fast to terra as they did. having to take out 8 to 10 planets and THEN advance to the next set would space things out better

[dragnier1]

Azrael0815, on 08 November 2015 - 12:12 AM, said:

I am TIRED of playing the same maps for 3 or 4 times in a row

Months before the current voting system was implemented i was playing some maps 5-6 times in a row. Other times 8 out of 15 games played, playing only 4 maps total, 1 of which only loaded once.

The problem is majority of players are voting skirmish, the lousiest game mode of the three. This is the game mode which features the most lazy gameplay, if you really paid attention.

In fact, this game mode was created because people were too lazy to walk back and defend their base. If you truely observed, you would notice players are more active and less lazy in assault because they need to defend a base.

[MovinTarget]

Azrael0815, on 08 November 2015 - 12:12 AM, said:

NO.. i will NOT buy Mechs which are too expansive just to get a new Jägermech (seriously 55$ if I want to get them all ? - thats nearly the price of a PC computer game)

Give us BACK the CHOICE to choose the gamemodes
I am tired of playing modes I do not like. Also cut down the selection of maps from 4 to lets say 2 (less maps to select increases the chance to also see the maps which are now "gone")
I am TIRED of playing the same maps for 3 or 4 times in a row

Chill the rage people.

One of them is redundant, 20 + 15 = $35 unless you *HAVE* to have every single one. and even then you can spread it out.
Buy the base package this month (for the Early swag bonus) = only $20. Then at some point in the future buy the Hero for $15. *IF* you like them enough when they drop, you can buy the redundant one (if you really must have it) because this will all still be around *after* the mechs drop.

The other albeit minor benefit to it being a "lighter jager" is just in case you have to shave a few tons off the group weight for a drop, you still get the same style of mech...

I don't care about game modes but if I did I would agree with you...

[freud2b]

I bought the Marauder, but I stopped putting money because you keep still nerf Clan

[Azrael0815]

MovinTarget, on 08 November 2015 - 04:19 AM, said:

Chill the rage people.

Dude this is no rage.... this is just a big dissapointment about the new "content"

[James Montana]

Gotphill, on 07 November 2015 - 01:20 AM, said:

...get your **** together, get it all together and put it a backpack. All your ****, so it’s together. And if you have to take it somewhere, take it somewhere you know. Take it to the **** store and sell it or put it in a **** museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together. Get your **** together.

You, sir, are the winner of the thread. I can't believe how hard I laughed.

[VortexD]

Dak Darklighter, on 07 November 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:

I must agree with the others. The pricing for these mechs are ridiculous, on top of the model that already was ridiculous.

Previous IS mechs were $20 and you'd get a Hero/Founders/Resistance/Invasion/whatever version of 1 variant. With Clans it was $30 which was really pushing the bar already.

Now it's $20 for only 3 regular variants of 1 IS mech, $40 for that plus a single Hero variant - THEN $55 if you want that plus a second Hero.

Bear in mind these prices are all in USD. People from other countries like, in my case Australia, $20 equates to $30, $40 equates to $56, and $55 equates to $80. It's probably worse for other places.

These price changes make me wonder if PGI/MWO is really tanking at the moment. They're indicative of a company in crisis especially since they're targeted at die-hard old-school battletech fans who orgasms at the mention of Unseens coming back. It would probably please the community more to do some sort of kickstarter to raise funds to develop more maps/gamemodes and so on because most of us are getting sick of PokeMech Online

Too make it worse... they are located in Canada so all these sales in USD with our current exchange rates equal like $28...

Being in Canada i cant justify giving a Canadian company US dollars with the current state of the insane exchange rates....Way to milk your own country the most....

[Odanan]

LOADED, on 06 November 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:

That's from 1985! 30 years!
I think the newer generations can't understand how important these mechs are for us, old guys. One year ago how would thought it would be possible to pilot these mechs?

Now bring on the Archer! (and Crusader, and Phoenix Hawk, and Wasp, and Stinger, and Long Bow, and Valkyrie)

[Red Legs Greaves]

55 dollars for 5 mechs is crazy, especially since it's the same mech. At least with a clan pack you get two different chassis for about the same price. Chances are both of those won't suck, but with one you're potentially screwed. This next gripe is a minor one but has anyone noticed that the early adopter rewards haven't included radar depredation since the first resistance pack? For me that was actually a big selling point, it saved me the grind of getting one. All of this is kind of moot because the game is in no state to it money into it. I'll take my $55 and go get an actual game.

[Gemini Bull]

i nerver really liked the jagermech, but the rifleman!!!!!!!!!! now that is a dakka mech i want. i discovered battletech in the early 90's, and the rifleman was one of the mechs that i first saw a table top figure of, along with the other "unseen" mechs. i will be getting this when i have the money for it. very happy right now!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dragnier1]

Odanan, on 08 November 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:

That's from 1985! 30 years!
I think the newer generations can't understand how important these mechs are for us, old guys. One year ago how would thought it would be possible to pilot these mechs?

Now bring on the Archer! (and Crusader, and Phoenix Hawk, and Wasp, and Stinger, and Long Bow, and Valkyrie)

I just realized there might be licensing fees to these mechs. That's why they package it like this.

Red Legs Greaves, on 08 November 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:

55 dollars for 5 mechs is crazy

With that in mind, try asking THAT company to give the license for free.

They are still selling Robotech stuff you know.

[MovinTarget]

Even if it's not for licensing (looks like everyone is telling HG to take a hike). Remember you can get 3 for $20 and $35 to throw in a hero ($15 = 3000 MC, try buying a heavy hero for 3000!), and it's only fleecing those with no self control that *have* to get the extra redundant mech sold separately.

I'm not saying everyone should or should not go out and buy it. Make your own decision, but don't try to make this some kind of con-job they're pulling. It's different from the resistance packages, yes, but still cheaper than getting heavies in any of those packages b/c you'd have to either buy a la carte or buy the lights and mediums just to get to the heavies, both options are more expensive than $20 + (maybe) $15 Hero.

Again, make you're own choice but don't make it about economics because it's really a mater of perspective.

Okay just looked it up:
If you wanted to buy any Resistance Heavy a la Carte right now: $35
Only 3 mechs(!)
No *unique* Hero mech (just the Resistance skin on the ® Variant)
No Premium Time

Any Clan Wave Heavy: $55
Only 3 Mechs
No Unique hero mech (just the (I) Variant with Wave Skin)
No Premium Time

So if you were looking to JUST purchase some heavies, any of the Unseen packs appear to be a better deal (if you go Base + Hero) than buying Heavy a la carte elsewhere... If you are looking for mass mech aqcuisition, needing mechs of different weight classes, then yes, the bigger bundles offer better deals.

Edited by MovinTarget, 08 November 2015 - 10:18 AM.

[ASHTAR0N]

I just noted that in the concept art the warhammer and rifleman have exactly the same legs. So for the high price tag you cant even be bothered to make a second pair of legs?

Also scaling whise this means that the rifleman will be as big as the warhammer, but the warhammer is 10 tons heavier. So here you allready have your first balancing problem just because you are lazy

[Odanan]

ASHTAR0N, on 08 November 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

I just noted that in the concept art the warhammer and rifleman have exactly the same legs. So for the high price tag you cant even be bothered to make a second pair of legs?

Also scaling whise this means that the rifleman will be as big as the warhammer, but the warhammer is 10 tons heavier. So here you allready have your first balancing problem just because you are lazy

They should have the same legs. See the Robotech miniatures:

BTW, didn't you notice most Clan mechs have shared parts? This is also lore-accurate, not some sneaky way to save developing effort.

[takkom]

i am not a huge fan of the cockpit - i really liked the WHM but this one i think looks weird.

i would probably still buy this right now because of the value and the good hardpoints if it wasnt a > 12 weeks wait but maybe like 4-6 :/

[Arkhangel]

ASHTAR0N, on 08 November 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

I just noted that in the concept art the warhammer and rifleman have exactly the same legs. So for the high price tag you cant even be bothered to make a second pair of legs?

Also scaling whise this means that the rifleman will be as big as the warhammer, but the warhammer is 10 tons heavier. So here you allready have your first balancing problem just because you are lazy

because obviously mechs made by the same factory and thus share the same components is being lazy, and not, you know, efficient.

also, like 80% of clan mechs share components. Military hardware shares components for ease of salvage and repair. deal with it.

hell, the Israeli Merkava Tank has a rebuild into an APC. Said APC is also the most heavily armored APC in the world BECAUSE it's made from the same chassis. fact is, other than being lore accurate, it's completely realistic to have Military stuff share common components. (also why rounds like 7.62 and .223 are found and used in most of the world's rifles.)

Edited by Arkhangel, 08 November 2015 - 11:38 AM.

[C E Dwyer]

ASHTAR0N, on 08 November 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

I just noted that in the concept art the warhammer and rifleman have exactly the same legs. So for the high price tag you cant even be bothered to make a second pair of legs?

Also scaling whise this means that the rifleman will be as big as the warhammer, but the warhammer is 10 tons heavier. So here you allready have your first balancing problem just because you are lazy

They were interchangeable in lore so what's the problem

[yenlow]

As a new player and having bought the warhammer and the marauder pre orders, i will be like a few others have said be asking for a refund and passing on the rifleman .

After the last up date i feel the game in just other a month of playing as gone backward and as now just become a replay of the same 4-5 maps at most with the same in the game mode, after playing the same map 5-6 times in a row it makes you want to just leave the game and go do something else.

Sorry but as a new customer i should not be felling like the game as just been put back into beta mode after only a month of play, over that month like i said i have bought the last 2 pre orders as well as dropping over £100 in MC purchases, yet i feel cheated.

Good luck with the game which by the way is fantastic but badly implemented and is a shame

Edited by yenlow, 08 November 2015 - 01:18 PM.

[MovinTarget]

Sorry to hear about your experience Yenlow. I wouldn't blame you for asking for a refund. When I come across new players I usually advise that they avoid spending much money early on, until they get a handle on the quirks of this game and how they like to play it.

Heavies are my least favorite class, partly due to the queue times. But yeah if you are new:
Don't invest in heroes...yet (wait for sales)
Premium time to make cbills to buy mechs

Edited by MovinTarget, 08 November 2015 - 02:13 PM.