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[White Bear 84]

Just make it a one off choice so people can't keep jumping to try get their 2nd best choice.. ..simple.

[Mystere]

TexAce, on 23 November 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

This thread is still running?
I still have to laugh everytime I see the title.

Well you have to admit that the solution was rather odd if not entirely hilarious.

[Revis Volek]

So guys, guys, GUYS!


I LIKE VOTING!


The Numbers you guys are throwing out in these threads are really cracking me up...

80% DONT like voting...based on the forums.


I hope you know only about 2-10% of the players base has ever even logged in. So maybe about 3% of the population is 50/50 on the vote mechanic. But in NOW WAY can anyone tell me they know anything about the player base from looking at these forums.



We are the vocal Minority here, most players dont care enough to complain they just got play something else.

Edited by DarthRevis, 23 November 2015 - 02:30 PM.

[Mystere]

DarthRevis, on 23 November 2015 - 02:26 PM, said:

So guys, guys, GUYS!


I LIKE VOTING!

Well good for you.

I myself enjoy playing in 2287 Boston so much I have no time to play anything else.

[Bishop Steiner]

WarHippy, on 23 November 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

That may be the case, but part of the reason we are forced into this nonsense is because the population has shrunk. As such I'm having a hard time understanding how pissing off half the population with the voting system is supposed to help.

maybe that "half the population" needs to pull their heads out of somewhere dark and smelly and realize that what's being done sort of needs to be done, if any of us are to have halfway decent MM wait times...which that half was just as vociferously complaining about before the change.

[DAYLEET]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 November 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:

maybe that "half the population" needs to pull their heads out of somewhere dark and smelly and realize that what's being done sort of needs to be done, if any of us are to have halfway decent MM wait times...which that half was just as vociferously complaining about before the change.

We all know this is a desperate measure but we don't all agree this was the way to do it. This just creates a precedent, you might be forced into CW match in 6 month from now, you might not be able to play the game or even battlemech you play now at all because of desperate measures. I would have lowered if not outright removed tier locking for everyone but t5 t4 before removing most of the game with the voting system. What's the point of droping faster if you don't get to play the game you want? This is the perfect exemple of "the only way to win is not to play".

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 November 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:

maybe that "half the population" needs to pull their heads out of somewhere dark and smelly and realize that what's being done sort of needs to be done, if any of us are to have halfway decent MM wait times...which that half was just as vociferously complaining about before the change.

If that was the case, then -- again and like a broken record -- random map and game mode selection would have been the easiest, fastest, and fairest solution.

[WarHippy]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 November 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:

maybe that "half the population" needs to pull their heads out of somewhere dark and smelly and realize that what's being done sort of needs to be done, if any of us are to have halfway decent MM wait times...which that half was just as vociferously complaining about before the change.

I didn't have issues with wait times or finding decent games. Maybe just maybe instead of telling others to remove their head from their posterior you should remove your head from yours first. If a change was needed this was not the change that actually needed to be made. Any temporary improvement to the MM is going to be short lived if a decent amount of people end up leaving over shortsighted changes like the voting system. MM problems are caused by low population and telling a decent chunk of that already small remaining player base to remove their head from their ass and enjoy this new crappy system is outright ignorant. Sorry, but you finding a match 10 seconds sooner is not as important to me as actually enjoying the game mode I am playing.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mystere, on 23 November 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:

If that was the case, then -- again and like a broken record -- random map and game mode selection would have been the easiest, fastest, and fairest solution.

point is mostly that the same people for the most part would just complain about that that too

[Morggo]

Umm....

I guess I just don't get the issue to be brutally honest.
I mean, I've played a ton of hours the past few month's since I joined MWO.
I'd say the "newness" factor of *anything* being cool is/should be past. And honestly, I just enjoy any drop I'm in. I'm one of the few that even like Terra... if I'm running a hot build and TT come up, it's just more of a challenge and adapt; maybe I'm a bit bent in the head thinking that way.

Anyway, I had noticed my drops were getting back to normal the week after the first voting change and honestly a decent mix of modes and maps were starting to drift back in anyway. Then with the weighted voting, again honestly I have been getting a great mix of maps.. arguably better than even before the first voting change.

I guess I just don't get why it's so fun to play frozen city skirm over and over... or whatever the popular map is at the time. I like the variety and the challenge that comes with it.

So, that all said... I'm fine with the weighted voting, I'm getting a great mix of maps.
I'm fine with the non weighted voting, once it settled in I was back to getting a decent mix of maps.
I'm fine with totally random if they went with that, I know I'd get a good mix.

*shrugs*
Morggo

Edited by Morggo, 23 November 2015 - 04:11 PM.

[adamts01]

WarHippy, on 23 November 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

I didn't have issues with wait times or finding decent games.

Good for you. My wait times were 7-15 minutes using a light with all modes selected on Oceanic. Now they're 3-7 with a light selected. Plus, this is the most balanced MM has ever been.
Just because it didn't effect you didn't mean there wasn't a problem. Wait times got substantially longer after going from tier 2 to 1. If you haven't noticed that then you will once your xp bat fills up.
The population isn't big enough to divide between CW, group, skirmish, Tdm and assault. Weighted voting let's people who like to play conquest play it. I like only skirmish but I'll play conquest because it's fair. That said, it should just be random.

[Mister Blastman]

This thread is dumb. If you aren't going to play because you can't get your way every game then I guess this isn't the game for you. What happens when your wife doesn't want to see an action movie and instead insists on seeing a girl movie? Do you get a divorce?

What about when you parents gave you clothes instead of that gizmo you wanted as a kid? Did you kill them?

What about when your teacher gave you a B instead of an A? What did you do then? Go complain to the principal?

Sheesh. What has happened to this place?

[FinnMcKool]

the mode vote dosnt work.

For the life of me I dont understand this idea that if your not week minded enuff to accept whatever they give you and then be happy cause of why?

If you want to make the game better?
you dont want so many of your friends to quit, your some how dumb?
I think (really I do) some of you need some how to feel Superior or something worse , or why even post , after all you dont want anything right? Your just complaining that some one else dosnt think like you.
or what?
we all know that the devs gona do what the devs gonna do , Some of us just want them to know if we like it or not.
If you dont like this post go to the brown noser post tell them how much you love what they did or didnt do, I made a few posts like that , when i see hard work that does good things, Makes the game better. But frankly when you come on and and just be an *ss h*le because you dont agree with someones post , well you lose my respect. and thats not as ez as you may think.

go ahead make excuses for for this screw up , the player base is getting smaller by the day , and you think your Helping?

Ill never understand those who think its fun to make others miserable.
oh but I guess its ok be cause your so D*mn smarter than me.

[Vellron2005]

badaa, on 19 November 2015 - 01:20 AM, said:

all people are doing is farming multipliers no ones voting for maps. got stuck playing the same map

8 times today 3 of those in a row because every one jumps on the map with the least votes trying

to get there multiplier.

hope you'll join me but know u wont.

All I know is that since multipliers have been implemented.. I actually PLAYED TERRA THERMA CONQUEST.

Yeah.. I know! Unbelievable that it's even possible!

So whine all you want, but since that patch, I get to play the maps and modes I want more often, and most matches are matched almost instantly..

So if you OP wanna leave over this... good riddance.

P.S.

Yes, I'm the guy who trolls you to end up playing Terra Therma conquest (which is actually fun). Just like you troll me to play friggin HPG for 12 friggin times in a row every day for two weeks before the patch.. so there. enjoy.

Edited by Vellron2005, 24 November 2015 - 03:09 AM.

[WarHippy]

adamts01, on 23 November 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Good for you. My wait times were 7-15 minutes using a light with all modes selected on Oceanic. Now they're 3-7 with a light selected. Plus, this is the most balanced MM has ever been.

That is more a problem with having servers scattered all over the place than simply a problem of people playing selected game modes. If it was such a large problem on the Oceanic server the best option would have been to do this on that server only instead of throwing us all under the bus. It is a hard situation to be sure, and I do feel for you, but if wait times were that long or for that matter still as long as you say then it was probably a mistake to even add that server when they did because there is clearly not enough people willing to play there for it to be worth it.

adamts01, on 23 November 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Just because it didn't effect you didn't mean there wasn't a problem. Wait times got substantially longer after going from tier 2 to 1. If you haven't noticed that then you will once your xp bat fills up.

Wait times go up as your tier goes up because the player pool gets smaller. That is true with every game that has a tier system so it shouldn't be all that surprising.

adamts01, on 23 November 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

The population isn't big enough to divide between CW, group, skirmish, Tdm and assault. Weighted voting let's people who like to play conquest play it. I like only skirmish but I'll play conquest because it's fair. That said, it should just be random.

The population isn't big enough to split between North America, Europe, and Oceanic either. The population also isn't big enough to risk pissing a lot of people off with changes like this. If they want people to play all of the game modes they need to make them more appealing so people actually want to play them instead of forcing them to play them. As for what is fair the old system was that because everyone got to play what they wanted, however this voting system is not.

[WarHippy]

Well that was some mighty ignorant drivel coming from you Blastman.
Equating a marriage to playing a game? Just no. Your entire post is just absurd, and even makes some of the other out there posts seem reasonable.

Mister Blastman, on 23 November 2015 - 05:45 PM, said:

This thread is dumb. If you aren't going to play because you can't get your way every game then I guess this isn't the game for you. What happens when your wife doesn't want to see an action movie and instead insists on seeing a girl movie? Do you get a divorce?

What about when you parents gave you clothes instead of that gizmo you wanted as a kid? Did you kill them?

What about when your teacher gave you a B instead of an A? What did you do then? Go complain to the principal?

Sheesh. What has happened to this place?

[Jzaltheral]

Wildstreak, on 19 November 2015 - 07:22 AM, said:

What can I say, I'm a corrupt kinda guy rigging map elections.
I can say it is impossible to get to a x11 or x12 multiplier, highest is about x6.

It's not. I had a x11 and lost it when I got greedy and tried to get the x12. Now I'm back up to x7. My mode multiplier is a x7 or x8. Gaming the system isn't hard, if you're careful with your clicks.

[Mystere]

Mister Blastman, on 23 November 2015 - 05:45 PM, said:

This thread is dumb. If you aren't going to play because you can't get your way every game then I guess this isn't the game for you. What happens when your wife doesn't want to see an action movie and instead insists on seeing a girl movie? Do you get a divorce?

I was chosen ... very carefullyI

Mister Blastman, on 23 November 2015 - 05:45 PM, said:

What about when you parents gave you clothes instead of that gizmo you wanted as a kid? Did you kill them?

I was a good kid and good kids got really nice presents from Santa.

Mister Blastman, on 23 November 2015 - 05:45 PM, said:

What about when your teacher gave you a B instead of an A? What did you do then? Go complain to the principal?

I always got the grades I deserved.

On a more serious note ...

Mister Blastman, on 23 November 2015 - 05:45 PM, said:

Sheesh. What has happened to this place?

It's simple. More players who love the IP are currently upset, disillusioned, resentful, etc. about the current situation of the game. Subjecting people to the whims of other via a "voting" system was just the latest "slight" they have to endure. Then this latest tweak was like adding insult to injury to quite a number.

[Mister Blastman]

WarHippy, on 24 November 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

Well that was some mighty ignorant drivel coming from you Blastman.
Equating a marriage to playing a game? Just no. Your entire post is just absurd, and even makes some of the other out there posts seem reasonable.

Hahaha ignorant? Mayhap you grab a thesaurus and pick a better word. This thread is absurd--all the crying and whining, "Boo hoo! I can't get the map I wanted! Waaaaa I don't get to pick my game mode every single time!"

Come on, man--what I stated were not absolutes or facts--merely examples to titillate your fancy. Ignorance has nothing to do with that.

Try harder next time. Improper use of the English language is a crime.

[Sandpit]

Jzaltheral, on 24 November 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

It's not. I had a x11 and lost it when I got greedy and tried to get the x12. Now I'm back up to x7. My mode multiplier is a x7 or x8. Gaming the system isn't hard, if you're careful with your clicks.

How exactly is that "gaming" the system? You lost every vote for 11 times in a row. You didn't get the map and mode you wanted 11 times in the row so that on the 12th match you have a really strong chance to get a match with settings you enjoy most. If "gaming the system" means throwing away 11 votes (or 3 or 4 or 5 or whatever) so you can get one match with a map and mode (out of the random selections offered) that you prefer, then I think it's a pretty safe bet that it isn't going to get worked much if at all.