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[Navid A1]

ET Penang, on 30 November 2015 - 07:59 PM, said:

The speed tweak NERF applied to the assaults is heartbreaking! The slow Assault Mechs are already the biggest targets to hit, the nerf will just make assault obsolete in the early stage of the match.....

you know something is wrong when they nerf an entire skill tree for just 1 or 2 chassis then give massive agility quirks to the rest of the 20 to 30 mechs.

[BrockSamsonFW]

My already-good 4x ERLL Orion is going to be tough, but more exciting is that maybe I can use my Victors again. Maybe.

[DoctorDetroit]

My only problem with these changes is that inner sphere now dominates long range... that just feels wrong for the clans.

[YaKillinMeSmalls]

Navid A1, on 30 November 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

you know something is wrong when they nerf an entire skill tree for just 1 or 2 chassis then give massive agility quirks to the rest of the 20 to 30 mechs.

So we should just nerf the Timber Wolf, Hellbringer, and Stormcrow?

[Gas Guzzler]

Navid A1, on 30 November 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

Battlemaster-1S says hello with ERLLs form 911m away \o//

lol... those clanners can not even see you through the fog.

jokes aside... clan nerfs were necessary... but not like this
I'd give all then clans 10 truedubs to start... then adjusted the C-DHS to have 0.17 dissipation with maybe 1.0 or 1.1 heat cap.
Also, i'd have left the cooldown unchanged for IS gauss while doubling its HP and reducing its chance of explosion to 40%

Well they still have 10 truedubs, and the 1.1 heat cap amounts to a little over 3 less heat capacity. Seriously.... it is hardly a nerf, with the increased dissipation. I barely noticed the heat sink changes on the PTS.

[Bluttrunken]

The PTS 1-3 made me hope for a more extensive change in MWO's gameplay system. Alot of the stuff was really nice, nicely thought out and would have just needed the time to be tweaked enough. Now we're stuck with the old quirk system again.

[Coolant]

Navid A1, on 30 November 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

well...lets do the calculation shall we?

before this the cooling rate of a normal mist lynx with 4 ERLs and 13 double heatsinks ( 7 internal + 6 external) was (with double basics):
1.15 * (7 * 0.2 + 6 * 0.14) = 2.576 h/s
and with this grand change:
1.15 * (7 * 0.2 + 6 * 0.15) = 2.645 h/s

see... the difference is 0.069 heat/s. To understand it better... it would take 14.5 seconds for the new change to dissipate 1 units of heat more than the previous clan DHS. So please stop justifying and sugar coating.

don't run 4 ERLs...problem solved. And can't wait do some CW against Clans

[Wildstreak]

Why drop from Tier 4 to 5? TMK, they play against the same people.

What is the purpose of reducing LRM Spread? They already do max damage anyway 95% of the time, something I did not know before, and, with ECM changes, may need fixing. Spread reduction on all Missiles asks why use Artemis too.

Why are SHS in the engine less effective that those outside it? DHS in the engine are more effective than DHS outside it so.....

Liking new Cockpit Item screen especially how I can filter out all items I don't have.

Lithuania Flag purchase Incoming.

If the Marauder and others are released for MC then CB next year, when is the UrbanMech?

No fix for Forest Colony Conquest Kappa point in the water?

[Coolant]

KursedVixen, on 30 November 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

With all these nerfs the next clan wave better be darn close to free, if not free

Someone got way too attached to their mechs. Play any other MMO's? I can't think of a single one that doesn't have ongoing balancing. Maybe you can provide an example? If not, you have nothing to complain about. Especially since there was zero guarantees your mech were going to stay the same...unless of course you can provide a source that said differently?

[kka]

I'm still waiting for the 50 % cooldown buff of LBX10!

Edited by kka, 30 November 2015 - 09:42 PM.

[spectralthundr]

Twilight Fenrir, on 30 November 2015 - 03:41 PM, said:

Actually... this is going to help the Kitfox and more so the Myst Lynx. You're only looking at half the equation, the CAPACITY is reduced, but the rate of cooling is increased.

What this really means is the death of the laser vomit. High-alpha mechs are gonna shut down from their sudden inrush of heat. Small mechs that add little bits of heat at a constant rate will be better off, as the rate of cooling will better keep up with them.

Though, with the skill tree nerfs... everything is gonna feel way hotter.

Sure for most of us who don't use a trainer. Which sadly isn't the majority of the comp groups, for them it'll be business as usual laser vomit.

[Coolant]

xlrdallas, on 30 November 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

well glad your happy, i will not play this game again till voting is gone , or russ an paul are working at mc donalds , where they can mess up burgers an fries

So, let me get this straight...you wish the creators of the game that you play to lose their real life career jobs because you don't get your way. I'm picturing a toddler screaming at the top of their lungs because they didn't get their bottle of milk or their diaper changed.

[spectralthundr]

YaKillinMeSmalls, on 30 November 2015 - 08:42 PM, said:

So we should just nerf the Timber Wolf, Hellbringer, and Stormcrow?

Why not? Maybe people will actually use other clan mechs then.

[PraetorGix]

Ramrod AI, on 30 November 2015 - 03:35 PM, said:

Seriously all I ever see in these forums are Clanners bitching about nerfs because they want to be invincible and have no challenge.

You know what I see? spheroid bitching like babies because no buff is ever enough for them and they want to have no challenge.

[Poonbahbah]

Coolant, on 30 November 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

So, let me get this straight...you wish the creators of the game that you play to lose their real life career jobs because you don't get your way. I'm picturing a toddler screaming at the top of their lungs because they didn't get their bottle of milk or their diaper changed.

Not getting milk okay; they can have water instead. Not changing their diaper; that's wrong. Not to mention unsanitary and stinky.

Haven't really done any pts, but am hopeful that I will like the changes. Though assaults should probably get more armor than structure buffs. With them less able to deal with lights on their own it just means it's more important for teams to stick together and do teamwork. So what else is new?

[Vxheous]

Prosperity Park, on 30 November 2015 - 04:52 PM, said:

Hey, when you take away a healthy person's crutch, they tend to walk with a gimp because they learned to lean on a Crutch.. That's what happens when you let your skills atrophy in the face of CruchTech.

If you look at the IS quirks, they have added a few more IS mechs with 25% Energy range, which means more IS mechs able to boat ER-LL out to 911m (That is more range than any Clan laser btw)

[PraetorGix]

Motroid, on 30 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

So basicly nothing is about to change fundamentally. What a lackluster. Really disappointing.
Yeah, ECM range, Gauss CD, C-Laser ranges and C-XL Engine nerfs were all truely needed
but
ECM is still OP and LRMs are still useless.
Laserboats will still be king. Gauss is still best overall Ballistic.
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Cockpitmonitors are nice tho...

Yup, there it is your promised re-balance made with a giant balancing matrix that took into account several factors of each individual variant in existence, with the input of players in mind, after a large numbers of PTSs and only released after we all agreed that is strictly better than Live status. As you can see PGI has again kept his very valuable word.
But hey who cares? They charged you money for yet another mech, it is releasing at the same time and this one is an unseen!, so yeah no one's gonna notice.

Edited by Cmdr Hurrell, 30 November 2015 - 10:11 PM.

[PraetorGix]

cSand, on 30 November 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

are you worried now that it will be marginally more difficult fo you to sit out at 900m and poke people with 6 laser alphas?

is that gonna put a dent in your bottom line?

IKR? how dare he pretend to do that, obviously the only ones who are entitled to poke at 1km away are Stalkers and Tbolts.

[ackstorm]

cSand, on 30 November 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

are you worried now that it will be marginally more difficult fo you to sit out at 900m and poke people with 6 laser alphas?

is that gonna put a dent in your bottom line?

Nope, IS has had the range advantage ever since Quirks went into play so Clan lost its range advantage already, this is just nails in the coffin.

[Scanz]

Nice patch
But


fix flamers omg !!!!

Edited by Scanz, 30 November 2015 - 11:57 PM.