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[Sandpit]

TLBFestus, on 08 December 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

PGI made several HUGE mistakes early on in

just to clarify for anyone not "in the know" he means 3-4 years ago.

Which is kind of the point. Get over it. It happened. Those people clinging to that need to get over it and themselves plain and simple. I was right there with everyone on an island and worked VERY hard with Russ and other community members to get past it and improve the situation. What you're really doing when you cling to and try to represent that is [redacted] all over the other people in the community that spent MANY hours and wrote a LOT of correspondence between ourselves and Russ to explain the situation, get people unbanned, get a new mentality on the forums, get townhall meetings, get improvements in how PGI treated its fan base, etc.
Period

Unit47, on 08 December 2015 - 02:26 PM, said:

/thread

except what I posted.
NOW you can end the thread

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 09 December 2015 - 04:33 PM.
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[Wintersdark]

Sandpit, on 08 December 2015 - 02:48 PM, said:

Which is kind of the point. Get over it. It happened. Those people clinging to that need to get over it and themselves plain and simple. I was right there with everyone on an island and worked VERY hard with Russ and other community members to get past it and improve the situation. What you're really doing when you cling to and try to represent that is [redacted] all over the other people in the community that spent MANY hours and wrote a LOT of correspondence between ourselves and Russ to explain the situation, get people unbanned, get a new mentality on the forums, get townhall meetings, get improvements in how PGI treated its fan base, etc.

Truth.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 09 December 2015 - 04:33 PM.
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[MischiefSC]

It is better now, at least the player interaction.

Let me know how those 4 pillars are working out though.

Anyone have the link to the video presentation of what CW was supposed to look and work like? You know.... 90 days after release?

Game improvements over the last 2 years have been sparse though. UI updates for the mechlab... how would you rate those? I did like them. Quirks? Balance? How about those brand new weapons, you know the Ac10, lbx, flamers, etc. I realize there's never been any real mention of them and I'm sure it slipped underthe radar, but how about weapon balance?

There are legit complaints. Just that a lot of the saltiest salts have old gripes when they were banned for les faux saulniers under the old forum gabelle. So they'll fling poo on the Steam forum every day for the rest of their lives. We will achieve clinical immortality and transhumanism and billions of years from now whatever luminous energy beings we exist as then, those same guys will say "Yeah, I'm glad Sol is consuming the Earth. This one time in MW:O I got banned on the forum and PGI wouldn't refund me." We just might perfect interstellar travel as a means to get away from those guys.

PGI has shown a relentless dedication to ******* up new stuff, there's no need to cling to old things to complain about.

Edited by MischiefSC, 08 December 2015 - 03:19 PM.

[RunWithRandoms]

TLBFaust. You're toxic.

[Revis Volek]

Envisage, on 08 December 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

TLBFaust. You're toxic.

Its TLBFestus...

And we must have read two completely different things then. I see a player who is looking at this not through rose colored glasses but subjectively, outside the box looking in while holding true to his DESIRES and the needs of the community.

Telling it like it is, without a hint of bias is the exact opposite of TOXIC. Its speaking the truth...

[Sandpit]

DarthRevis, on 08 December 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

Its TLBFestus...

And we must have read two completely different things then. I see a player who is looking at this not through rose colored glasses but subjectively, outside the box looking in while holding true to his DESIRES and the needs of the community.

Telling it like it is, without a hint of bias is the exact opposite of TOXIC. Its speaking the truth...

I think he's referring to the clinging to the past and doing nothing but repeating the same thing for 3 years

[TWIAFU]

TLBFestus, on 08 December 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

PGI made several HUGE mistakes early on in the growing stages of this game and they disenfranchised some very dedicated players.

PGI was only HALF of the equation in the early stages of the game, or did we forget?

What did we learn of that separation and why that partnership was bad for PGI, MWO, and ultimately us?

After that divorce, hasn't things become better? What state would we be in if that had not happened? How much dev time was lost and content?

[Revis Volek]

TWIAFU, on 08 December 2015 - 04:09 PM, said:

PGI was only HALF of the equation in the early stages of the game, or did we forget?

What did we learn of that separation and why that partnership was bad for PGI, MWO, and ultimately us?

After that divorce, hasn't things become better? What state would we be in if that had not happened? How much dev time was lost and content?

But it was PGI who thought it was a good idea to pair up with said publisher, who will stay unnamed, so we cant say it was all the other guys fault.

SOMEONE at PGI thought this was gonna be a good idea...maybe that person has been canned already but you cant say PGI is Blameless for the issue that went down during this time. But i also dont think ever little thing was the publishers fault either.

[Alex Morgaine]

TWIAFU, on 08 December 2015 - 05:25 AM, said:

Funny to read people harp on a game they still play with intent to ruin it so they can complain it is ruined.

More reason to not go to Steam, [redacted].

My question is: what are they going to play mech warrior related if they succeed and bury mwo in 2016? Reload Mw4 that may or may not even with on Windows 10 that a lot more people have now? Go back to LL and hope development continues or even starts up again? Complain there's no one wanting to pick up the now dead ip? BT won't be till what 2017? Beta a lil earlier but still, is not mechwarrior...

Just saying, hate the game, fine. But if people still want to play it, at least let people try to enjoy it without the salt?

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 09 December 2015 - 04:37 PM.
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[RunWithRandoms]

Thanks Sandpit

[Revis Volek]

Frosty Brand, on 08 December 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

My question is: what are they going to play mech warrior related if they succeed and bury mwo in 2016? Reload Mw4 that may or may not even with on Windows 10 that a lot more people have now? Go back to LL and hope development continues or even starts up again? Complain there's no one wanting to pick up the now dead ip? BT won't be till what 2017? Beta a lil earlier but still, is not mechwarrior...

Just saying, hate the game, fine. But if people still want to play it, at least let people try to enjoy it without the salt?

PGi owns it until 2020 i thought...


So if this game tanks it will be 2020 before we get a new one me thinks....

Edited by DarthRevis, 08 December 2015 - 04:25 PM.

[LastKhan]

After having a few reads and in honor of this thread. To all the people still beholden and upset to the past 3 years of garbage i think i found a game for them. Even on Steam!

[Sandpit]

DarthRevis, on 08 December 2015 - 04:15 PM, said:

But it was PGI who thought it was a good idea to pair up with said publisher, who will stay unnamed, so we cant say it was all the other guys fault.

SOMEONE at PGI thought this was gonna be a good idea...maybe that person has been canned already but you cant say PGI is Blameless for the issue that went down during this time. But i also dont think ever little thing was the publishers fault either.

neither do I, but I know they were a big chunk of it now. Regardless why is this even being discussed?

Again
3 years ago
It happened
move on

[Revis Volek]

Sandpit, on 08 December 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

neither do I, but I know they were a big chunk of it now. Regardless why is this even being discussed?

Again
3 years ago
It happened
move on

I agree, its a moot point. Its water under the bridge and halfway to Eastern Europe by now...

[RunWithRandoms]

I think I should have said "you're being toxic" though. At least you reason your points unlike many. They're the generally toxic player base.

[Burktross]

Ronyn, on 08 December 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

What may rub me the wrong way is this forum attacking anyone that doesn't blindly agree with their opinion.

Ronyn, on 08 December 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

wake up sheeple!!1111

ftfy

[MischiefSC]

At work, on my phone and can't do it.

Someone post let it go gif please. Obligatory at this stage.

There are tons of legit complaints about pgi and the development of the game. That they have historically bald faced lied about the games development is certainly one.

However if you're complaining about forum crap from years ago... insert obligatory Frozen gif.

[Revis Volek]

MischiefSC, on 08 December 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

At work, on my phone and can't do it.

Someone post let it go gif please. Obligatory at this stage.

There are tons of legit complaints about pgi and the development of the game. That they have historically bald faced lied about the games development is certainly one.

However if you're complaining about forum crap from years ago... insert obligatory Frozen gif.

[Alex Morgaine]

LastKhan, on 08 December 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

After having a few reads and in honor of this thread. To all the people still beholden and upset to the past 3 years of garbage i think i found a game for them. Even on Steam!

Yessssss! Must find it.

[Sandpit]

Envisage, on 08 December 2015 - 04:40 PM, said:

I think I should have said "you're being toxic" though. At least you reason your points unlike many. They're the generally toxic player base.

I don't even think it's toxic. I just really think it's completely irrelevant and just about everyone in the community is tired of hearing about it.