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[Juodas Varnas]

Gamuray, on 16 December 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

By the way. 9 missile hardpoint 5W. Can you even begin the imagine EITHER the reign/rain of terror AND(<-the and is important to note)/or the absolutely monstrous amount of srm launchers it can bring!? I mean, heck. lrm30 + srm machinegun/mega swarm!

Really puts the Catapults to shame.
Makes me wish they gave it more hardpoints.

[Bishop Steiner]

Ronyn, on 16 December 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

Am I missing something here? The Archer 2R and the Archer Tempest have the same loadouts BUT, The Archer Tempest has a Standard Engine+ECM and two extra Heatsinks..... Same armor as well....

looks like a typo... ARC-2R is 3025 tech, so no XL. Probably swapped that with the Tempest by accident.

also
https://twitter.com/...224531304443904

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 December 2015 - 12:36 PM.

[Gamuray]

Ronyn, on 16 December 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

Am I missing something here? The Archer 2R and the Archer Tempest have the same loadouts BUT, The Archer Tempest has a Standard Engine+ECM and two extra Heatsinks..... Same armor as well....

I know right? Additionally to that, the archer 5S seems to have an 8 ton heavier payload than the archer 2R. They both have everything about their non-weapon equipment exactly the same too.

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

looks like a typo... ARC-2R is 3025 tech, so no XL. Probably swapped that with the Tempest by accident.

Oh. That would actually fix both issues! Except the 5S still has a heavier payload than the 5W.

Edited by Gamuray, 16 December 2015 - 12:38 PM.

[Malleus011]

The ARC-2R should have a standard engine, not an XL.

I really like the variants they chose, but I do wish that the 2R had 2 Missile in each side torso. Asymmetrical hard points drawn from symmetrical loadouts bother me.

Glad they chose Morgan Kell for the Hero. I like it.

*Edit* Just noticed that the pre-order period is rather short. Only till the end of December. PGI, it is Christmas, you know - stretching out into January would get your more sales.

Modules are obviously copy/pasted from the Marauder or Warhammer sale. Might I suggest Target Retention and Cooldown LRM20 module?

Edited by Malleus011, 16 December 2015 - 12:38 PM.

[Novakaine]

Hell Yeah!
I did'nt have anyone to chest bump at work.
So I chest bumped a wall.
Lurmageedon 2016!

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 16 December 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

Really puts the Catapults to shame.
Makes me wish they gave it more hardpoints.

most of the CB warriors lost on the hardpoint front. Do hope that gets rethought. The K2 could for sure use it's other 2 energy hardpoints and it's twist range restored.

[Rattazustra]

Within the current system of the game, this mech is a game-breaker in multiple ways and a balancing nightmare for many future game adjustments. It is an exploit right out of the box.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Wait, why are we only limited to 1 hero variant only? Was this on all prior hero add ons?

[Gas Guzzler]

Rattazustra, on 16 December 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:

Within the current system of the game, this mech is a game-breaker in multiple ways and a balancing nightmare for many future game adjustments. It is an exploit right out of the box.

Which mech? The Archer in general? Why?

[Bishop Steiner]

Gamuray, on 16 December 2015 - 12:35 PM, said:

I know right? Additionally to that, the archer 5S seems to have an 8 ton heavier payload than the archer 2R. They both have everything about their non-weapon equipment exactly the same too.



Oh. That would actually fix both issues! Except the 5S still has a heavier payload than the 5W.

streaks are half a ton lighter than SRM4s and LRM15s are 3 tons lighter than LRM20s. Even with it packing an extra ton of reloads per LRM over the W, that still is 5 tons less than the W for that, plus the W has an extra ton of NARC.

A little too lazy too look it up and do the math though, tbh, lol.
here's the canon loads though
http://www.solaris7....Info.asp?ID=662
http://www.solaris7....Info.asp?ID=601

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 December 2015 - 12:41 PM.

[Barantor]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:37 PM, said:

most of the CB warriors lost on the hardpoint front. Do hope that gets rethought. The K2 could for sure use it's other 2 energy hardpoints and it's twist range restored.

Every one of the catapults could use 2 extra missile slots and have arms that don't grow growths when you add more missiles.

This archer is very rad and will be in my mechbay.

ECM has been on a hero before with the Pirates Bane. Other heavy ECM mechs that aren't heroes for clan and IS, so I don't see it as a problem.

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:37 PM, said:

most of the CB warriors lost on the hardpoint front. Do hope that gets rethought. The K2 could for sure use it's other 2 energy hardpoints and it's twist range restored.

I really feel they should start giving "hardpoint inflation" to mechs like the Spider 5V by giving them hardpoints outside the CT
Just two extra E hardpoints in each Side-torso would do wonders to them.

Would also allow for inclusion of mechs like the Hussar (who would also only have 2 hardpoints in the CT in 3/5 variants if i recall correctly)

But that's horribly off-topic.
Archer looks good.
I won't buy it, but it looks good.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 16 December 2015 - 12:43 PM.

[Burktross]

Gamuray, on 16 December 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

That Archer ARC-5W though.
Wow missles!
I mean, 9 missiles hardpoints. My gosh that is going to be one HECK of an LRM/SRM boat!

Enough lurms to cover the sun...

[Malleus011]

I suspect the ARC-Tempest will drop into the game about two weeks before the PT4 ECM nerf implementation.

[Gas Guzzler]

Malleus011, on 16 December 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:

I suspect the ARC-Tempest will drop into the game about two weeks before the PT4 ECM nerf implementation.

Likely, or even after. Doesn't matter. If it still gives the 3 second dorito delay, that is huge/worth taking.

[Bishop Steiner]

Malleus011, on 16 December 2015 - 12:35 PM, said:

The ARC-2R should have a standard engine, not an XL.

I really like the variants they chose, but I do wish that the 2R had 2 Missile in each side torso. Asymmetrical hard points drawn from symmetrical loadouts bother me.

Glad they chose Morgan Kell for the Hero. I like it.

*Edit* Just noticed that the pre-order period is rather short. Only till the end of December. PGI, it is Christmas, you know - stretching out into January would get your more sales.

Modules are obviously copy/pasted from the Marauder or Warhammer sale. Might I suggest Target Retention and Cooldown LRM20 module?

jsut tweeted russ about that....

also sale page has been updated to correct typo

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Target Info and Zoom for mostly an LRM mech?

Same boring polygon camo?

;(

[Bishop Steiner]

Malleus011, on 16 December 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:

I suspect the ARC-Tempest will drop into the game about two weeks before the PT4 ECM nerf implementation.

I'm OK with that, would be OK if ECM was chopped now. Feel bad for the Steamers who won't see it coming though, I guess.

Good thing they signed the new CoC and EULA to cover that!

xMADCATTERx, on 16 December 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

Target Info and Zoom for mostly an LRM mech?

Same boring polygon camo?

;(

yeah...not sure why they think people like polygon so much, I have it equipped on literally ZERO out of over 140 mechs.
also
https://twitter.com/...228637020557312

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 December 2015 - 12:53 PM.

[0bsidion]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

9 SSRM2 just for the lulz...... with cooldown modules.....


Pirates Banes has ECM. Don't recall other locusts with it. I guess that was the litmus test.

Personally, I still expect ECM to be further nerfed when infowar gets added, so it is what it is.

Well, if there was any mech they would get away with slapping ECM on that was locked behind a paywall without the forums going up in flames, it would be a Locust. I mean come on, it's a 20 ton wet paper bag with pop guns and a race car engine.

[Goose]

Dustdog, on 16 December 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

I guess Crusader is the next one.

'Cause the Heavy Queue isn't long enough?