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#141 Lightfoot

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 04:47 AM

Alpine is my favorite map. They just put the bases and drop zones in the wrong places and this is what forces the H9 Hill focus. Just take the base at the upper right and move it to the left at least to top center. Then take the base at middle left side and drop it to near bottom center and blammo! You have fixed Alpine because with this design players have to actively choose to fight at the H9 grid rather than it being the map's nexus.

Once you get away from H9 the gameplay is excellent and there is no NASCAR like on Caustic Valley now every match. (btw, working LRMs stops NASCAR)

#142 CHH Badkarma

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 04:52 AM

They should really just keep the old maps and add "classic" to the title and keep them in the rotation. Make updated new versions also. You know, ones that are cluttered up with junk in the "new style"

#143 MrMadguy

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 05:19 AM

No. Alpine is second worst map in a game after Therma. It will be deleted. Deal with it.

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 06:02 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 03 January 2016 - 05:19 AM, said:

No. Alpine is second worst map in a game after Therma. It will be deleted. Deal with it.

uninstall

#145 Imperius

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 06:12 AM

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#146 Bassethound

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 06:17 AM

Keep Alpine! It is a fun map. I win 50/50 from each side, do not see it as imbalanced.

#147 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 07:40 AM

#There'saplaceforAlpinetoo

#148 Hawk_eye

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 07:55 AM

View PostBush Hopper, on 03 January 2016 - 02:26 AM, said:


Meanwhile in reality: one of the impatient ADHD kiddies runs up to the slope, eats 3-4 alphas, dies and you need to storm the hill Posted Image Posted Image

But yeah, I like the map. The start positions should be changed to north and south of the mountain so that both team can choose from which way to ascend.


LOL, no argument there.
I was replying from my "strategy-gamer at heart" point of view, where I have control over all assets. :)

#149 Kyynele

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 07:59 AM

View PostCHH Badkarma, on 03 January 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:

They should really just keep the old maps and add "classic" to the title and keep them in the rotation. Make updated new versions also. You know, ones that are cluttered up with junk in the "new style"


Agreed. More maps means more variety, makes no sense to me to completely remove old ones when new ones are added.

#150 Thunder Lips Express

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 08:05 AM

Now that I'm on the other end of lrms I like alpine

#151 Malleus011

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 09:13 AM

Even if you dislike Alpine, wouldn't you like to have more maps?

#152 Imperius

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 09:17 AM

View PostMalleus011, on 03 January 2016 - 09:13 AM, said:

Even if you dislike Alpine, wouldn't you like to have more maps?


Quality > quantity (you knew this rebuttal was coming c'mon)


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 09:38 AM

View PostLightfoot, on 03 January 2016 - 04:47 AM, said:

Alpine is my favorite map. They just put the bases and drop zones in the wrong places and this is what forces the H9 Hill focus. Just take the base at the upper right and move it to the left at least to top center. Then take the base at middle left side and drop it to near bottom center and blammo! You have fixed Alpine because with this design players have to actively choose to fight at the H9 grid rather than it being the map's nexus.

Once you get away from H9 the gameplay is excellent and there is no NASCAR like on Caustic Valley now every match. (btw, working LRMs stops NASCAR)


I like the idea of having one base at the lower colony and one base at that upper installation that is protected by the ridge behind candy mountain. That way the hill cannot offer defense for the base.

Assault Mode fixed.

Move the Conquest collectors around the map, further from the mountain.

Conquest Mode fixed.

Put the spawn points for Skirmish Mode equidistant from mountain approach points.

Skirmish Mode fixed.

#154 Devorum

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 12:32 PM

View PostMalleus011, on 03 January 2016 - 09:13 AM, said:

Even if you dislike Alpine, wouldn't you like to have more maps?


"Even if you dislike cat feces, wouldn't you like to have more food on your plate?"

Edited by Devorum, 03 January 2016 - 12:32 PM.


#155 TheArisen

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 12:46 PM

The ppl who're against keeping this map don't seem to care about it getting any kind of modifications.

What if H9 hill was made a volcano. That way, you could fight from it but you'd be dealing with extra heat whilst your opponent is cooler.

I also like the idea of changing the spawn points/bases.

#156 TyphonCh

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 04:54 PM

View PostDevorum, on 03 January 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:


"Even if you dislike cat feces, wouldn't you like to have more food on your plate?"


That's quite possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard

Edited by Team Chevy86, 03 January 2016 - 04:54 PM.


#157 Devorum

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 05:37 PM

View PostTeam Chevy86, on 03 January 2016 - 04:54 PM, said:

That's quite possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard


Ok, then, let me put it this way.

I don't like liver. If there's a buffet, I'd rather liver not be on the table...even if means there being more food overall. It looks and smells repulsive.

Alpine is that liver.

The statement "even if you dislike something wouldn't want to have to deal with it anyway to get more options?!?!" might be one of the most backwards things I've ever heard.

#KillAlpine2016

#158 TyphonCh

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 05:46 PM

View PostDevorum, on 03 January 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:


Ok, then, let me put it this way.

I don't like liver. If there's a buffet, I'd rather liver not be on the table...even if means there being more food overall. It looks and smells repulsive.

Alpine is that liver.

The statement "even if you dislike something wouldn't want to have to deal with it anyway to get more options?!?!" might be one of the most backwards things I've ever heard.

#KillAlpine2016


There are people in the room who enjoy the liver. Given the random pool of people of have voted in the poll, you are a minority
If you don't want the liver, avoid it. ie: Downvote it.
And if you're forced to eat the liver, don't be a disrespectful little **** and just get through it. There are more matches to be had.


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 06:07 PM

View PostAntecursor Venatus, on 02 January 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:


If being up on that mountain is such a tactically superior position, I would be a complete moron to attack you there.
No, if the enemy team is already up there, much better to pull back to a position of _my_ choosing.
Now you have two options.
1. Stay on your mountain and end the game in a 0:0 draw or
2. Come down and fight me on ground of _my_ choosing.

you have no idea how many times that's ended in a 0:0 draw.... Or some idiot charges the enemy team from either side, usually just 1 guy too which then screws everyone else.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 03 January 2016 - 06:08 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 06:16 PM

#KillAlpine2016





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