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[Metus regem]

Tamwulf, on 15 January 2016 - 07:38 AM, said:

I'd like to see a Maruader IIC, Warhammer IIC, and Locust IIC.

Otherwise, how about some second line Battle Mechs? Russ said 3053, but there are some 3058 Mechs in the game, so... I'm confused a bit.

Not really, they were in TRO 3058, but they have production start dates before that, notably the Shadow Cat, TRO 3058, but production start date of 3003.

[Gas Guzzler]

Widowmaker1981, on 15 January 2016 - 07:44 AM, said:

To be fair, i think all the people saying no in that thread are the diehard IS players who say no to the idea of any buff to any clan mech ever.

Yeah, they aren't even bothering to try to cloak their arguments in logic. Apparently the worst Clan mechs are WAY better than IS mechs like the Banshee, Stalker, and Battlemaster.

[Pariah Devalis]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

Yeah, they aren't even bothering to try to cloak their arguments in logic. Apparently the worst Clan mechs are WAY better than IS mechs like the Banshee, Stalker, and Battlemaster.

Clearly. Usually when I retort with a sardonic "show me where the Kit Fox, Gargoyle, or Mad Dog touched you," they don't even try and respond.

[DONTOR]

How bout no omni mechs, and a Clan totem mech pack. Seriously we need the Kodiak...

[reign]

DONTOR, on 15 January 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

How bout no omni mechs, and a Clan totem mech pack. Seriously we need the Kodiak...

Yup, Grizzley and Kodiak rule all these choices. No hard locked anything. (low arms) but both have torso mounts.

[Gas Guzzler]

DONTOR, on 15 January 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

How bout no omni mechs, and a Clan totem mech pack. Seriously we need the Kodiak...

Kodiak/totem mechs are probably going to be single mech packs like the unseens. Russ said something to that note on twitter.

https://twitter.com/...647180061323264

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 15 January 2016 - 08:19 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Kodiak/totem mechs are probably going to be single mech packs like the unseens. Russ said something to that note on twitter.

Not to mention, true totems are only mechs that are specifically mentioned to be totems in the TRO so good luck filling a pack with the very limited selection. The only reason I say this is the arguments with other BT nerds told me that this is the official stance (Randall Bills I believe made a post about this a long time ago).

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 15 January 2016 - 08:19 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

reign, on 15 January 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Yup, Grizzley and Kodiak rule all these choices. No hard locked anything. (low arms) but both have torso mounts.

Yes, like the Kodiak with 1 Ballistic, 1 E and 1 M in the torso and EIGHT energy hardpoints in the low slung arms? I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[reign]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:

Yes, like the Kodiak with 1 Ballistic, 1 E and 1 M in the torso and EIGHT energy hardpoints in the low slung arms? I wouldn't get your hopes up.

wat? All non omni mechs get some inflation and here are the hardpoints. Thats 2 missles and 1 B.

[Gas Guzzler]

reign, on 15 January 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

wat? All non omni mechs get some inflation and here are the hardpoints. Thats 2 missles and 1 B.

My apologies, 2M.

And I doubt a mech with 12 hardpoints is going to see any inflation.

[reign]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 08:24 AM, said:

My apologies, 2M.

And I doubt a mech with 12 hardpoints is going to see any inflation.

Probably be 2 B and 3 M on the torsos to be honest. and that would be enough for a good build.

[Dagorlad13]

pbiggz, on 15 January 2016 - 07:28 AM, said:

I'd play the thing more if masc were worth the tonnage or I could remove it for more firepower.

MASC is invaluable on the Executioner, you can use it to turn, stop and accelerate almost as well as a medium when you need to. I love using MASC to turn around an surprise the crap out of backstabbing lights!

DONTOR, on 15 January 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

How bout no omni mechs, and a Clan totem mech pack. Seriously we need the Kodiak...

I still want new Omnis, but I would like to see the Kodiak in a one-off pack first. We Ghost Bears need our FireMoth and Kingfisher too.

[Gas Guzzler]

reign, on 15 January 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

Probably be 2 B and 3 M on the torsos to be honest. and that would be enough for a good build.

Why would you think that? How many Battlemechs in MWO have 12 hardpoints? I'm struggling to think of any.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 15 January 2016 - 08:32 AM.

[reign]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 08:31 AM, said:

Why would you think that? How many Battlemechs in MWO have 12 hardpoints? I'm struggling to think of any.

Just the way they added to the Marauder etc. But you are right highest one I see is 10 Hard points on the battlemaster. Would have to see how PGI handles it though.

Kodiak has 8 + 4 that would be the largest number of Hard points in the game (without mixing pods). Or is that even higher?

What would be wrong with LPL 2x SRM 6 (A) and an AC20? (all in the torsos)

Edited by reign, 15 January 2016 - 08:44 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

reign, on 15 January 2016 - 08:39 AM, said:

Just the way they added to the Marauder etc. But you are right highest one I see is 10 Hard points on the battlemaster. Would have to see how PGI handles it though.

Kodiak has 8 + 4 that would be the largest number of Hard points in the game (without mixing pods). Or is that even higher?

What would be wrong with LPL 2x SRM 6 (A) and an AC20? (all in the torsos)

A UAC20? it would be okay I guess. You can do that on an Orion IIC too. I don't know, I'm not getting my hopes up for the Kodiak, it will be just okay. Probably a good brawler but that's about it.

[Bishop Steiner]

IronClaws, on 15 January 2016 - 07:24 AM, said:

The Executioner is my favorite Clan Assault in MWO (so far) and any self-respecting Ghost Bear warrior should become proficient with it.

unless said warrior doesn't do Assaults.

pbiggz, on 15 January 2016 - 07:28 AM, said:

I'd play the thing more if masc were worth the tonnage or I could remove it for more firepower.

on Assaults MASC actually works decent. Though not as it should. On Mediums? Utter trash.

Widowmaker1981, on 15 January 2016 - 07:44 AM, said:

To be fair, i think all the people saying no in that thread are the diehard IS players who say no to the idea of any buff to any clan mech ever.

or just obstinate idiots.

[reign]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

A UAC20? it would be okay I guess. You can do that on an Orion IIC too. I don't know, I'm not getting my hopes up for the Kodiak, it will be just okay. Probably a good brawler but that's about it.

Well the other option is to Gauss and LPL in the torsos.. And poke with that shoulder (since the B is mounted really high).

Edited by reign, 15 January 2016 - 08:52 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 January 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

unless said warrior doesn't do Assaults.

I find it is helpful to be cross trained and proficient on all classes. You only know a class once you've stomped around it in for 1609.334 meters.

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on Assaults MASC actually works decent. Though not as it should. On Mediums? Utter trash.

QFT.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 15 January 2016 - 08:52 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Tamwulf, on 15 January 2016 - 07:38 AM, said:

I'd like to see a Maruader IIC, Warhammer IIC, and Locust IIC.

Otherwise, how about some second line Battle Mechs? Russ said 3053, but there are some 3058 Mechs in the game, so... I'm confused a bit.

TRO Date (3025, 3050, 3055, 3058, etc) is just the "stardate" that TRO was published. It has little to nothing to do with when the mechs found within were actualyl first built, especially Clan Mechs, as with those it has to do when the IS first reported on them more than anything.

For actual production dates, try the official mech timeline from the publisher
http://www.masterunitlist.info/

[Gas Guzzler]

reign, on 15 January 2016 - 08:51 AM, said:

Well the other option is to Gauss and LPL in the torsos.. And poke with that shoulder (since the B is mounted really high).

Yeah you could do that, could also through some mediums on one of the arms too for some more kick. Like I said, I don't think it will be terrible. I just look at the things you could do with it and it feels like its not really an ideal setup for anything other than brawling. Maybe 8 cSPLs in the arms to supplement the brawly torso weapons. Would probably work.