So...did Harmony Gold Sue?
#1
Posted 19 January 2016 - 02:24 PM
Anyone got some secret info?
#2
Posted 19 January 2016 - 02:38 PM
here's a quote from someone on reddit a long time ago:
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Being influenced by someone is not the same as using an artist's work for advertising purposes without their consent.
And another quote from the same topic as well:
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2) PGI will win any lawsuit headed their way over the "unseen" mechs. There is absolutely zero infringement in these designs and PGI knows it.
So...
Edited by Scout Derek, 19 January 2016 - 02:41 PM.
#3
Posted 19 January 2016 - 02:43 PM
#4
Posted 19 January 2016 - 02:44 PM
So, something may have changed, and it seems it might have been a positive something for every company who's had less than positive interactions with HG.
#5
Posted 19 January 2016 - 02:49 PM
#6
Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:04 PM
#7
Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:07 PM
pbiggz, on 19 January 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:
I think HG getting their teeth kicked in by Hasbro when they went after them, has made HG a little more cautious...
#8
Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:09 PM
Suko, on 19 January 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:
Anyone got some secret info?
It's best not to bring it up.
#9
Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:36 PM
Honestly, I wish I had seen all this coming together the way it did, but I didn't. Pleasantly surprised that HG is taking a sit back and don't make trouble approach.
Edited by Escef, 19 January 2016 - 03:59 PM.
#10
Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:52 PM
http://www.wired.co....ademy-cancelled
I think karma is meant to affect your next life or something. So to have it show up and screw you over in your current lifetime means you really f'd up.
Bet HG are kicking themselves right now that they didn't get in on the BT action. They could have been earnt a reasonable royalty on the unseen if they'd been more smart and less ****.
LOL, begging for a $2 hate pledge... if that isn't desparation I don't know what is.
#11
Posted 19 January 2016 - 04:09 PM
Legally, they never really had a foot to stand on, but they had enough money and a big enough legal team to browbeat companies into settling, ratehr than dealing with a massively drawn out legal thing.
You've got 3+ companies here working together with a warchest ready to fight anything thrown their way.
They know their chosen target is willing and able to fight back this time, and that they can't win in that instance.
#12
Posted 19 January 2016 - 04:24 PM
I doubt HG wants a lawsuit over something so subjective, while they're trying to re-build interest in their neglected IP.
Besides, you know damn well the new Robotech will look way different too.
I think you can put the matter to bed.
#13
Posted 19 January 2016 - 04:34 PM
RoboPatton, on 19 January 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:
I doubt HG wants a lawsuit over something so subjective, while they're trying to re-build interest in their neglected IP.
Besides, you know damn well the new Robotech will look way different too.
I think you can put the matter to bed.
There was a time where HG would sue you if you said the word Marauder. But getting their **** pushed in by Hasbro changed things for the better. HG is a dying company and won't be around for long.
#14
Posted 19 January 2016 - 04:43 PM
TheCobra, on 19 January 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:
I wouldn't wager on that. They are still predominantly a real estate company that deals in one of the most expensive areas in the country. They've been doing quite fine for themselves, but every time in the past they threw their weight around it was a smallish to mid sized fish jumping into the tiny pond of table top game developers. Suddenly they have truly large fish to deal with, like Topps, Hasbro, and possibly even Microsoft. Pretty hard to intimidate multinationals with net income greater than many small countries' GDP.
#15
Posted 19 January 2016 - 04:48 PM
Edited by sycocys, 19 January 2016 - 04:49 PM.
#16
Posted 19 January 2016 - 04:51 PM
Ovion, on 19 January 2016 - 04:09 PM, said:
Legally, they never really had a foot to stand on, but they had enough money and a big enough legal team to browbeat companies into settling, ratehr than dealing with a massively drawn out legal thing.
You've got 3+ companies here working together with a warchest ready to fight anything thrown their way.
They know their chosen target is willing and able to fight back this time, and that they can't win in that instance.
It will be wonderful if this is true. Now we can have our Unseen artbooks and models/miniatures.
#17
Posted 19 January 2016 - 04:53 PM
Critical Rocket, on 19 January 2016 - 02:49 PM, said:
Oh Games workshop lost, good for the Indie studio, they've been screwing over people for years, nice to see them get kicked in the balls, for a change
What did they lose over ?
#18
Posted 19 January 2016 - 05:05 PM
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Except that they don't even own that. A Japanese court ruled that they only own the rights to the original series, not all of the series. HG claims that the Japanese court doesn't have standing in the US, but the reality is that if anyone ever challenged them they'd lose. But it would be expensive to challenge their position.
http://www.kotaku.co...early-15-years/
#19
Posted 19 January 2016 - 05:08 PM
Suko, on 19 January 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:
Anyone got some secret info?
Nope. Legal aspect handled long before this.
Amazing how many people missed the fact that CGL a subsidiary of TOPPs actually got the ball rolling, and HBS and PGI just jumped on for the ride.
Harmony Gold is in their own financial and legal doo-doo, what with some very serious real estate (I think. Other stuff, too) investigations on europe, and of course their utterly failed attempt to go after Hasbro, a year or two ago.
Suffice it to say, if TOPPs legal team greenlit it, we're clear, regardless what the conspiracy idiots think.
Edited by Bishop Steiner, 19 January 2016 - 05:11 PM.
#20
Posted 19 January 2016 - 05:11 PM
Escef, on 19 January 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:
Honestly, I wish I had seen all this coming together the way it did, but I didn't. Pleasantly surprised that HG is taking a sit back and don't make trouble approach.
Actually, Frank Agrama owns HG, not Carl Macek. And it's Agrama who's neck deep in legal issues.
https://en.wikipedia...ki/Frank_Agrama
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