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[RestosIII]

Sandpit, on 21 January 2016 - 03:57 PM, said:

I"m doing very well in my 6D
2LPL
4MPL

good range, great alpha, good heat, lots of armo, std engine. It's a beast in a brawl.

The mech I just can't seem to do well with?
The Quickdraw. I just haven't found my niche with it honestly. Can't find a good groove for it.

Burn the meta witch! Burn it!
Personally, the mech I love that I can't do well in? Vulture and Thor. Both easily hit my favorites in regards to heavy mechs, but I just can't get them to work in MW:O. Still desperately try though.

[Bud Crue]

Sandpit, on 21 January 2016 - 03:57 PM, said:

I"m doing very well in my 6D
2LPL
4MPL

good range, great alpha, good heat, lots of armo, std engine. It's a beast in a brawl.

The mech I just can't seem to do well with?
The Quickdraw. I just haven't found my niche with it honestly. Can't find a good groove for it.

That is kinda funny. The build you use for your Hammer is simmilar to one of my primary Quickdraw builds (5k xl300, 2Lpl and 4 Ml). Close enough. Give it a try in your Quickie!

[Bishop Steiner]

Sandpit, on 21 January 2016 - 03:57 PM, said:

I"m doing very well in my 6D
2LPL
4MPL

good range, great alpha, good heat, lots of armo, std engine. It's a beast in a brawl.

The mech I just can't seem to do well with?
The Quickdraw. I just haven't found my niche with it honestly. Can't find a good groove for it.

So you are doing what a Grasshopper or Blacknight actually does better with it?

Not seeing the appeal, TBH. Especially since I run that same loadout on my Jester, with JJs, and IMO better hitboxes and hardpoints.

Navid A1, on 21 January 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:

I play on a laptop too, (not potato specs though).
G502 is working nicely for me... specially the mouse wheel tilts (one is an extra weapon group and the other is arty)

how much pressure do the thumb buttons take?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 21 January 2016 - 04:25 PM.

[Lukoi Banacek]

For me, one iconic mech that I really looked forward to that I suck in is the Scat....lordy I have cut them completely out of my life at this point and may never look back. Sad really, considering it was my goto mech when I first started in competitive multiplayer many years ago.

RIP Shadowcat.

[Sandpit]

Navid A1, on 21 January 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:

I play on a laptop too, (not potato specs though).
G502 is working nicely for me... specially the mouse wheel tilts (one is an extra weapon group and the other is arty)

naga epic

I play on a laptop as well, although screen is upgraded through my TV, and it works well for all my gaming needs. It's nice having the thumb buttons available to easily work several different weapon groups in MWO and other games. The only thing I use keyboard for is movement, vision mode, and targeting. I'm considering up grading this year to a tartarus controller for that as well just to eliminate the keyboard for good and have a more robust control system for the more advanced games coming out. SC being one, games like MWO being others. I enjoy the complexity of multiple systems to monitor and maintain. I like the "sim" feel without having to do minute math problems to figure out how to fire weapons and jump from planet a to planet b.

If you have issues with gaming due to inury or health issues I'd HIGHLY suggest looking into some of the new tech available. Keyboard for anything other than quick communication through text is becoming obsolete very quickly.

[Dagorlad13]

Well, you can say the same about most of the Clan Mechs in MWO as well. As far as IS Mechs, I find the Battlemaster quite lackluster compared to the same Mech in TT.

[Davegt27]

yeah all of them lol

oh except my Streak Wolf

[CycKath]

Probably too early, only played 18 match total (stupid on-call) and have only dropped in 6R and the Black Widow for that, but still haven't clicked with them yet. Most 'Mechs even in basic I start to get a feel of how they'll go. I haven't gotten that yet with the Warhammers.

[Clownwarlord]

What I have learned about my Warhammers is that my out side of the WubHammer the others I do carry PPC/ERPPCs in the arms, and with them I get a lower damage out put. On the other hand though I am getting a higher kill count. I am aiming my shots more carefully and ending the enemy mech as soon as possible instead of snap shotting and general aiming.

Also my builds usualy are the 2 ERPPC/PPCs and then a lot of close range weapons as back up (small lasers or small pulses with mgs) so I can put in a bigger STD engine. In truth the mech leaves me with a small alpha at range and a high dps at close range not using my main weapons because of the terrible heat you get from the ERPPC/PPCs.

[Sandpit]

Bud Crue, on 21 January 2016 - 04:19 PM, said:

That is kinda funny. The build you use for your Hammer is simmilar to one of my primary Quickdraw builds (5k xl300, 2Lpl and 4 Ml). Close enough. Give it a try in your Quickie!

I've tried it, I'm just not "nimble" enough in anything voer a medium honestly lol

It's my personal limitation in skill level. Piloting a lumbering assault mech whether it be for brawling, or battle coordination I can do. Piloting a mech at 140/kph, hitting jumpjets, popping a UAV over the enemy formation without getting shot much and spinning midair to drop an arty on that same formation and continue on my exit path? That I can do.

Trying to figure out how to use a "quick" heavy mech as a harasser unit? Just can't do it lol Even the Grasshopper gives me headaches sometimes, but I've figured out if I use it more like a Tbolt it does well.

I think the people having issues with the Whammy are using it a bit "wrong". The first thing I did was have a teammate scope out the hitboxes in game with a small laser. The CT is tall but VERY narrow, the ST hitboxes are about where they look to be in visual representation as are the arms. The trick I've found with it is treat it like fast moving brawler. Much like the Mad, Crab, and Stalker, it has a very narrow "integral" hit box location in the center and side torsos. I don't fine it good for XL, but others have.

I tend to spread damage by using minor twisting instead of the full 90 degree turn that's real popular. You can torso mount most weapons and use arms for shields as well if need be.

[Bishop Steiner]

IronClaws, on 21 January 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well, you can say the same about most of the Clan Mechs in MWO as well. As far as IS Mechs, I find the Battlemaster quite lackluster compared to the same Mech in TT.

always felt an 85 ton mech whose sole long range weapon was a single PPC was a bit overrated in TT, too.

Mind you, this thread isn't about what is or isn't overrated, or even good or bad... (I think Battlemasters are pretty solid, and the Warhammer seems to be, too) but what, regardless of general consensus.... you just can't make work.

[DaZur]

My Founders Atlas... All day.

I can't pilot this thing to save my life. I'd need to ask my wife for assistance just to open a jar.

[Navid A1]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 January 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

how much pressure do the thumb buttons take?

They have really nice feedback and not stiff at all.
However, My grip only allows me to use 2 of the thumb buttons comfortably, I use the 3rd thumb button to switch ecm modes.
Also, there are 2 extra buttons besides the left mouse buttons that i use for night and heat vision

[Bishop Steiner]

Navid A1, on 21 January 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

They have really nice feedback and not stiff at all.
However, My grip only allows me to use 2 of the thumb buttons comfortably, I use the 3rd thumb button to switch ecm modes.
Also, there are 2 extra buttons besides the left mouse buttons that i use for night and heat vision

sounding more and more like the g502 is gonna be my huckleberry.

[Soul Tribunal]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 January 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

Been playing TT Battletech since 1987, every single MW video game title... for 29 years.

My first mech ever? WHM-6R Warhammer. Been my favorite mech ever since. Have run that same character all these years, most of them, in that same old Warhammer.

And finally for the first time since the Crescent Hawk games.... I have my Warhammer again. I even can make it match my custom TT build (and improve it slightly).

And I suck in it. Horribly.

Yeah... it's a little squishy. Yes, my refusal to take the PPCs out of the arms doesn't help. And yet I see others do the same.... and are fine. But these.... are my lowest scoring heavies...and it's not close. My Dragons score higher. My stock Summoner Prime almost doubles the avg score.

It's that having to admit, I'm a mediocre Heavy Pilot at the best of times. I'm a Medium Jock. In an FPS, without that mobility.... I just stink. I'm still happy that it's here, and love how it looks..... but....

So yeah... 29 years in the making... and it's probably the worst fit for me of any mech. But I freely admit, the breakdown in this relationship.... it's not the Warhammer's fault. It's mine.

But realizing that still makes me a saaaaaad panda.

How about you guys, any tales of broken Mech homes, and heartbreak and woe?

I don't have one yet, as you have waited your years for yours to come to light again, I have as well.
I actually very much fear what has happened to you, will happen to me whenever they release my Mech.
I've been a Bushwacker Pilot since they've had them. It was the perfect Medium for me. And I honestly fear that my love for it, and passion for it, will make me do horribly in it.

So, while I don't experience what you experience yet, I fear I will in time.

-ST

[Bishop Steiner]

Soul Tribunal, on 21 January 2016 - 04:52 PM, said:

I don't have one yet, as you have waited your years for yours to come to light again, I have as well.
I actually very much fear what has happened to you, will happen to me whenever they release my Mech.
I've been a Bushwacker Pilot since they've had them. It was the perfect Medium for me. And I honestly fear that my love for it, and passion for it, will make me do horribly in it.

So, while I don't experience what you experience yet, I fear I will in time.

-ST

That happened to me with MW4. In MW3, the Bushwacker was PERFECT for me. Mine ran dual AC10, and I could sustain a wicked low heat jackhammer attack. The MW4 hardpoints and weapon damage changes, the Wacker just never worked for me (thankfully the Uziel was a boss and a half...something I doubt would translate here... since a single SRM6 rack, even SSRM6, is near useless, as opposed to MW4 where it made a great compliment to paired ERPPC..... but then the any laser under a large was ballz useless).

*sigh*

TT to FPS.... what is baller on one, simply don't translate to another.... and sadly even from iteration to iteration of the game..same story.

[Bishop Steiner]

how it should feel when a Warhammer strides into battle.... fists full of lightning, hammering mortals into oblivion.....

[LordMelvin]

I know my issues with the Whammy lie in my lack of experience with PPCs. The extra velocity also means I keep overcompensating at longer ranges.

I'm pretty garbage with Locusts, although the recent structure quirk changes have made them better for me. I don't have the reflexes to pilot anything that goes faster than 100-115kph.

[Bishop Steiner]

LordMelvin, on 21 January 2016 - 05:07 PM, said:

I know my issues with the Whammy lie in my lack of experience with PPCs. The extra velocity also means I keep overcompensating at longer ranges.

I'm pretty garbage with Locusts, although the recent structure quirk changes have made them better for me. I don't have the reflexes to pilot anything that goes faster than 100-115kph.

115 is probably as fast as I find comfortable...everything faster feels too herky jerky to really feel in control.

[Solis Obscuri]

I put myself through a lot of misery when the Quickdraw first came out.

I've heard it was buffed to being decent since then, while I was taking a hiatus from MWO, but I haven't really had the heart to go back and check it out yet.

The Wolverine was even worse. Always liked them on TT, but it was a seriously godawful experience trying to work through the efficiencies in MWO.