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[CDLord HHGD]

Reducing quirks is not nerfing. It's removing previous buffs.

[Herr Vorragend]

Wait until the changes are implemented and THEN complain. I've seen so many balance passes and the balancing will continue. It's a process. First see how the changes will feel. You can unleash hell later.
This is a needed change.

[Monkey Lover]

cdlord, on 30 January 2016 - 02:16 PM, said:

Reducing quirks is not nerfing. It's removing previous buffs.

Do you work in marketing? Haha

[MauttyKoray]

Gamuray, on 30 January 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

Key Word:"Energy" Range.

Energy range being reduced doesn't mean they won't do SPECIFIC laser range quirks to replace it... (correct me if they said that it includes specific laser quirks and isn't just the general quirk for energy range)


Edit: Looked at Russ's wording, he even mentioned giving some mechs specific weapon quirks to replace the reduction in general energy range quirkage

THIS RIGHT HERE.

The GENERAL ENERGY quirk is what was being talked about. Personally I agree with Russ, the general blanket quirks need to be the smallest quirks on any mech (mostly) with compensation for where the tweaks need to be made in category and weapon specific quirks.

[Stat1cVoiD]

Good decision! AS LONG AS they compensate for this with +% range quirks for specific weapons,... like + 10% Energy Range, + 15% LPL Range f.e., instead of +25% flat.

[Lupis Volk]

So i take it all IS players are going to swarm to Clanners in CW/clan mechs in general in protest like the Clanners did to us?

[MauttyKoray]

Stat1cVoiD, on 30 January 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

Good decision! AS LONG AS they compensate for this with +% range quirks for specific weapons,... like + 10% Energy Range, + 15% LPL Range f.e., instead of +25% flat.

Exactly the point, capping the general quirk will prevent stuff like LLs and ERLLs and PPCs from getting a huge boost while still only being marginally useful to SLs and MLs.

[CDLord HHGD]

Monkey Lover, on 30 January 2016 - 02:20 PM, said:

Do you work in marketing? Haha

Nope. I'm an engineer who is entitled only to what I worked for and nothing else. Give me the quirked HBK or the original Founders HBK and I'll be equally happy.

[BaconCouch]

Good. Its about time this happened.

[MauttyKoray]

Math Behind The Laser Quirk Change

[ShinobiHunter]

Technically it's not a nerf. It's a de-buff

I'm alright with IS not having the range to match Clans, but a lot of those mechs need some other quirks to make up for being craptastic.

*ninja'd by cdlord

Edited by ShinobiHunter, 30 January 2016 - 07:44 PM.

[Damia Savon]

Nice to see my Catapults, especially the Jester, were totally OP. Awesome how the brand new Warhammers need cut back already. Wow.

Meanwhile the two best mechs in the game, Timby and Stormcrow, get buffed. Wow.

I wonder what the metawhoring CW ******* will complain about now in their neverending quest to f**k Puggers over until they die. I swear.. just make the only CW mech you can take is a Locust with a single small laser. Then the rest of us can enjoy a variety of mechs and weapon systems while the CW crowd can really see just how good they are.

[Clownwarlord]

XX Sulla XX, on 30 January 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

I would rather say it is not enough ... it is rather ...



So much collateral damage ... bye bye BJ 1DC bye bye Raven 4x no longer are you worthy. More Dakka anyone?

Dakka King Crab, Dakka Jagers, Dakka EVERYTHING WE NEED MORE DAKKA!!!

Edited by clownwarlord, 30 January 2016 - 08:19 PM.

[KodiakGW]

XX Sulla XX, on 30 January 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

Welcome to the U.S., Canada, U.K. Pretty standard.

[Chuck Jager]

Stat1cVoiD, on 30 January 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

Good decision! AS LONG AS they compensate for this with +% range quirks for specific weapons,... like + 10% Energy Range, + 15% LPL Range f.e., instead of +25% flat.

that is what we had before and folks gave it a thumbs down. Generic quirks are too easy to abuse in certain places. I like the fact that an IS mech I might not buy may actually work for a specific role after a quirk and this really is important for short to medium range lasers and the tonnage difference for ballistics.

I would also rather have a poor to mediocre mech have a chance to be competitive even if the build is mostly dictated.

[Aresye]

Damia Savon, on 30 January 2016 - 08:13 PM, said:

Nice to see my Catapults, especially the Jester, were totally OP. Awesome how the brand new Warhammers need cut back already. Wow.

Meanwhile the two best mechs in the game, Timby and Stormcrow, get buffed. Wow.

I wonder what the metawhoring CW ******* will complain about now in their neverending quest to f**k Puggers over until they die. I swear.. just make the only CW mech you can take is a Locust with a single small laser. Then the rest of us can enjoy a variety of mechs and weapon systems while the CW crowd can really see just how good they are.

I'd take a Jester over the current TBR any day of the week. Oh wait, I'm already doing that.

[MauttyKoray]

Reposting cause people are stupid and can't read/hopping on bandwagon.

LASER GENERAL/BLANKET QUIRK IS BEING REDUCED, QUIRKS FOR SPECIFIC WEAPONS WILL PROBABLY BE INCREASED TO COMPENSATE THE APPROPRIATE WEAPONS. HERE IS WHY:

MATH BEHIND THE LASER QUIRK CHANGE

[Mystere]

clownwarlord, on 30 January 2016 - 08:18 PM, said:

More Dakka anyone?

Dakka King Crab, Dakka Jagers, Dakka EVERYTHING WE NEED MORE DAKKA!!!

Good! Good! There will be more people that can be baited into wasting ammo before moving in for the kill. <maniacal >

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Wonder if they will replace laser range with other stuff. Think about a Locust instead of having 50% higher range it gets like 1000% cooldown...

Locust laser drill go!

[Wildstreak]

MauttyKoray, on 30 January 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:

Reposting cause people are stupid and can't read/hopping on bandwagon.

LASER GENERAL/BLANKET QUIRK IS BEING REDUCED, QUIRKS FOR SPECIFIC WEAPONS WILL PROBABLY BE INCREASED TO COMPENSATE THE APPROPRIATE WEAPONS. HERE IS WHY:

MATH BEHIND THE LASER QUIRK CHANGE

Then stop being stupid like some others and reposting something ignoring other people's points, just embarrasses you, no one else.