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[Grimvid]

Typing this to you from the great state of North Carolina, where the best mechwarriors are trained in the harshest of sitting positions.

This morning on one of my usual before I go out the door to work games, I got to hear yet another rant on bad game-play. This one was a little different, it concerned the abilities and play style of European drivers over the much better American drivers.
A number of people expressed that European players are a camping, non-pushing and non-aggressive style of player. Most rants, in my experience, follow a number of random players caught in bad positions incurring losses that lead into a statically proven defeat. I have had people rant about me. In my two years of experience, I have learned to smash my mechs with the greatest of ease and in a timely manner.

My questions are: Is there a difference in gameplay between the servers? Did dividing the servers cause the European to become group snipers? Are we looking at a form of MechWarrior bigotry?

Edited by Grimvid, 11 February 2016 - 12:41 PM.

[Coralld]

Grimvid, on 11 February 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

Typing this to you from the great state of North Carolina, where the best mechwarriors are trained in the harshest of sitting positions.

This morning on one of my usual before I go out the door to work games, I got to hear yet another rant on bad game-play. This one was a little different, it concerned the abilities and play style of European drivers over the much better American drivers.
A number of people expressed that European players are a camping, non-pushing and non-aggressive style of player. Most rants, in my experience, follow a number of random players caught in bad positions incurring losses that lead into a statically proven defeat. I have had people rant about me. In my two years of experience, I have learned to smash my mechs with the greatest of ease and in a timely manner.

My questions are: Is there a difference in gameplay between the servers? Did dividing the servers cause the European to become group snipers? Are we looking at a form of MechWarrior bigotry?

I think there was a thread like this a while back and what was found is that European players do tend to play more defensively vs North American players who play more aggressively, same for Oceanic.

At least that's what I remember anyway.

[Novakaine]

I don't know every German player I've made friends with seem to go Panzerfaust when the ticker hits 0.
Hahaha couldn't resist.

[Revis Volek]

In my experience yes, major differences. But there is also major difference during NA Prime time and non Prime time.

Euro players from my experience are more defensive and enjoy the peek and poke style of play a lot more. Not all but most of them i play with at least...Oceanic is much of the same. NA is very aggressive (almost too aggressive sometimes), very fast paced play style. We Americans dont like waiting, weather its a win or a loss.


But this is only true for NA during the Prime Time, before 7 or 8 pm and after 1 or 2 am the game changes and those aggressive, fast paced players seem to either get to drunk or go to bed (maybe both) and the game play changes back to the stale peek and poke game i see so often.


This is all just my anecdotal experience an in NO WAY am i trying to blanket the entire group of Euro or Oceanic players here at MWO.

Edited by Revis Volek, 11 February 2016 - 01:11 PM.

[Xmith]

It's really silly to think that regions play differently when most players are from North America.

The majority of the players that drop with you are most likely from N.A. So this notion that the regions play different just makes little sense to me.

[Coralld]

Xmith, on 11 February 2016 - 01:19 PM, said:

It's really silly to think that regions play differently when most players are from North America.

The majority of the players that drop with you are most likely from N.A. So this notion that the regions play different just makes little sense to me.

You would be surprised.

I played in all three for a week and there is indeed a difference between them to one extent or another.

As for the reason why, no one knows, it's just the way it is.

Edited by Coralld, 11 February 2016 - 01:25 PM.

[Bilbo]

Revis Volek, on 11 February 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:

In my experience yes, major differences. But there is also major difference during NA Prime time and non Prime time.

Euro players from my experience are more defensive and enjoy the peek and poke style of play a lot more. Not all but most of them i play with at least...Oceanic is much of the same. NA is very aggressive (almost too aggressive sometimes), very fast paced play style. We Americans dont like waiting, weather its a win or a loss.


But this is only true for NA during the Prime Time, before 7 or 8 pm and after 1 or 2 am the game changes and those aggressive, fast paced players seem to either get to drunk or go to bed (maybe both) and the game play changes back to the stale peek and poke game i see so often.


This is all just my anecdotal experience an in NO WAY am i trying to blanket the entire group of Euro or Oceanic players here at MWO.

When we were all on the same server and I played more often, the change in play styles was fairly noticable as time marched on through my play sessions. Still is noticeable, to a smaller degree, even though I only play on NA server now.

[zagibu]

Xmith, on 11 February 2016 - 01:19 PM, said:

It's really silly to think that regions play differently when most players are from North America.

The majority of the players that drop with you are most likely from N.A. So this notion that the regions play different just makes little sense to me.

That's absolute nonsense. The ping values make it easy to determine if someone is from NA or not. You can't get below 50 ms ping as NA player on the EU servers, and vice versa.

And yes, the regions play differently indeed. I'm from Europe, and I've played before the EU servers launched, and I can safely say that EU players play it more like Counterstrike, with lots of camping and preferring long range over close engagements. It's very noticeable, and personally, I hate this playstyle. I am often tempted to switch back to the NA servers, but the ping difference is just not worth it.

[TexAce]

Grimvid, on 11 February 2016 - 12:40 PM, said:

Typing this to you from the great state of North Carolina, where the best mechwarriors are trained in the harshest of sitting positions.

This morning on one of my usual before I go out the door to work games, I got to hear yet another rant on bad game-play. This one was a little different, it concerned the abilities and play style of European drivers over the much better American drivers.
A number of people expressed that European players are a camping, non-pushing and non-aggressive style of player. Most rants, in my experience, follow a number of random players caught in bad positions incurring losses that lead into a statically proven defeat. I have had people rant about me. In my two years of experience, I have learned to smash my mechs with the greatest of ease and in a timely manner.

My questions are: Is there a difference in gameplay between the servers? Did dividing the servers cause the European to become group snipers? Are we looking at a form of MechWarrior bigotry?

I am from Germany (for you uneducated US folks: thats in Europe!) and I have to agree that the playstyle on the european server is slower, more defensive, but also more thoughtout. In other words: 90% of the time just boring. US server is Rambo all the way.

Edited by TexAce, 11 February 2016 - 01:31 PM.

[Mechteric]

Also from North Carolina


I'm thinking its mostly broad generalizations that aren't based on fact, like most bigotry tends to be.

"Oh yeah those damn yanks are all stupid inbred gun-toting morons!"

"Them darn Europeans are yella' I tell ya'!"


At any rate it often provides a good source of comedy, and lets you know who the stupid bigots are

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 11 February 2016 - 01:31 PM.

[Kuritaclan]

Novakaine, on 11 February 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

I don't know every German player I've made friends with seem to go Panzerfaust when the ticker hits 0.
Hahaha couldn't resist.

count me in.

[Revis Volek]

Xmith, on 11 February 2016 - 01:19 PM, said:

It's really silly to think that regions play differently when most players are from North America.

The majority of the players that drop with you are most likely from N.A. So this notion that the regions play different just makes little sense to me.

Why are there 2 servers NOT LOCATED in NA if we dont have a player base anywhere but NA?

Yes, the majority seems to be here (and im not even sure of that), but there are A LOT of Euro players.


If i can find that Picture PGI has up like a year ago with the graphs and such i will post it.

[TexAce]

Revis Volek, on 11 February 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

Why are there 2 servers NOT LOCATED in NA if we dont have a player base anywhere but NA?

Yes, the majority seems to be here (and im not even sure of that), but there are A LOT of Euro players.


If i can find that Picture PGI has up like a year ago with the graphs and such i will post it.

Actually, even just German player count is already near US player count. American and EU are pretty even alltogether.

Edited by TexAce, 11 February 2016 - 01:33 PM.

[Coralld]

CapperDeluxe, on 11 February 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

Also from North Carolina


I'm thinking its mostly broad generalizations that aren't based on fact, like most bigotry tends to be.

"Oh yeah those damn yanks are all stupid inbred gun-toting morons!"

"Them darn Europeans are yella' I tell ya'!"


At any rate it often provides a good source of comedy, and lets you know who the stupid bigots are

Kind of like how TexAce just posted? Saying that European game play appears to be more thought out vs North American play style being mindless Rambo.

In any case, no one here is saying which game play is better just that there appears to be a preference between the 3 servers.

Edited by Coralld, 11 February 2016 - 01:37 PM.

[B0oN]

As an Euro TZ player I´ve gotta say ...
them poking, hanging back, sniping, never-daring-to-push, mech-driving sissies are everywhere !
Don your Trojans when your about to go in to not get infected by that absolutely horrifying disease .

Edited by Rad Hanzo, 11 February 2016 - 01:38 PM.

[Thorqemada]

I play on all 3 Servers and my Ping varies from ~30 on Europe to ~130 on NA and ~230 on Aisa and Ping simply does not matter to me and i found it all very playable.

Is there a difference in Playstyle?

This depends on more than only the Nationality as also preferred Gamemode, preferred Mechs, preffered Map play a role.
As i only do Quick Play and simply enjoy the chaotic nature of the PUG Play more times than not and that is what i care for.

I would call myself an agressive Player though i dont try to run blindly into the enemy but for several reasons it has to be done sometimes and other times it has to be avoided so in 2 different matches you may witness me playing totally differently trying to maximize as well fun as success, or simply trying to find out the endurability of a Mechbuild.

PGI could release some stats about preffered Mechs n Modes n Maps so People can argue and flame about it

Edited by Thorqemada, 11 February 2016 - 01:40 PM.

[Revis Volek]

CapperDeluxe, on 11 February 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

Also from North Carolina


I'm thinking its mostly broad generalizations that aren't based on fact, like most bigotry tends to be.

"Oh yeah those damn yanks are all stupid inbred gun-toting morons!"

"Them darn Europeans are yella' I tell ya'!"


At any rate it often provides a good source of comedy, and lets you know who the stupid bigots are

Stating your experience is in now way kin to being a bigot.

Mileage always varies from player to player.

[Coralld]

Thorqemada, on 11 February 2016 - 01:39 PM, said:

I play on all 3 Servers and my Ping varies from ~30 on Europe to ~130 on NA and ~230 on Aisa and Ping simply does not matter to me and i found it all very playable.

Is there a difference in Playstyle?

This depends on more than only the Nationality as also preferred Gamemode, preferred Mechs, preffered Map play a role.
As i only do Quick Play and simply enjoy the chaotic nature of the PUG Play more times than not and that is what i care for.

I would call myself an agressive Player though i dont try to run blindly into the enemy but for several reasons it has to be done sometimes and other times it has to be avoided so in 2 different matches you may witness me playing totally differently trying to maximize as well fun as success, or simply trying to find out the endurability of a Mechbuild.

PGI could release some stats about preffered Mechs n Modes n Maps so People can argue and flame about it

That's the one thing I found that all 3 servers have in common in that no matter which server you go play in, Puglandia is always the same.

Edited by Coralld, 11 February 2016 - 01:44 PM.

[Grimvid]

How did they ever lose that war?

[Appogee]

Yes, there is a marked difference. Not in every match, but certainly more often than not...

Due to my crap ping, I play mostly on the European server.

European players have a much greater tendency to hide, to back away from wherever the enemy is. They more frequently stay in static positions, get themselves surrounded, and won't support pushes.

Some days, if I have a bad run of teams who hide and die on the Euro server, I deliberately choose the worse ping on the NA server just to get a chance of team who will attack, or at least move.